Thoughts on M&P Mags

[iflyfish]

I have a 15-22 waiting for Christmas Morning (Ms Claus did allow me to put 250 rounds through it a few weeks ago). I had some FTF, FTE issues but overall it did well. Tonight I cleaned some guns I shot today I got to thinking about loading the Mag. I tried to load it incorrectly and it was easy to do. I loaded a few mags very slowly and deliberately and was successful until this one….. As the photo shows, I still had three rounds in the wrong position. Most of the other incorrectly loaded rounds fixed themselves with a tap or pulling the spring back and releasing it. This one would not.

Then I got to thinking about how I shot some of my trial rounds with the mag resting on the bench or using the mag as a grip. So I removed the charging handle and bolt. With the gun "open" I inserted the mag. I moved it around quite a bit without much effort or pressure. It moved enough that it looks like it misaligned the round . I don't think firing it this way would cause some of the damages I'm seeing in this form, but it think it could cause some of the FTE, FTF and jamming issues.

At 0600 this Christmas morning I'm going to see if my theory is correct.

 

[27 Beck]

I have a 15-22 waiting for Christmas Morning (Ms Claus did allow me to put 250 rounds through it a few weeks ago). I had some FTF, FTE issues but overall it did well. Tonight I cleaned some guns I shot today I got to thinking about loading the Mag. I tried to load it incorrectly and it was easy to do. I loaded a few mags very slowly and deliberately and was successful until this one….. As the photo shows, I still had three rounds in the wrong position. Most of the other incorrectly loaded rounds fixed themselves with a tap or pulling the spring back and releasing it. This one would not.

Then I got to thinking about how I shot some of my trial rounds with the mag resting on the bench or using the mag as a grip. So I removed the charging handle and bolt. With the gun "open" I inserted the mag. I moved it around quite a bit without much effort or pressure. It moved enough that it looks like it misaligned the round . I don't think firing it this way would cause some of the damages I'm seeing in this form, but it think it could cause some of the FTE, FTF and jamming issues.

At 0600 this Christmas morning I'm going to see if my theory is correct.

Good pic and post.

Tell Ms. Clause to just send the 15-22 to one of the good forum members here. (I'm available) They can thoroughly test the rifle with several hundred rounds of ammo, so the 6:00 AM test coming on 12-25-09 will be a resounding success.

You have friends.

 

[TxShooter2k9]

heck yeah, one of us will test it more for you than S&W did before they sent it out. lol.

 

[ChattanoogaPhil]

Anyone use a 10 round magazine?

 

[27 Beck]

Anyone use a 10 round magazine?

Have the 10 rounders been released yet

 

[ChattanoogaPhil]

Have the 10 rounders been released yet

Have compliant rifles not shipped? I just assumed they had.

 

[Russ Jerome]

I had noted the same "stacking" issue after my first day with mine, it will cause jams.

***If you wrap your hand around the clip while shooting, interupt the external button it will cause the correctly loaded rounds to jump and can make same odd stack. If you doubt this at all simply pull the thumb botton down and snap it up while inserted in the gun, I just did it again to confirm what I saw on day 1***