Thoughts on out of state moving & local resentment

[mtgianni]

I have preferred to live in small towns most of my life though I got stuck in Missoula for almost 20 years.

I recently was at a small social function that involved two transplants from a west coast State and large towns. Both stated they refused to travel to Island Park Idaho, a journey of about 200 miles, because there were places that the GPS might not work en route. They also mentioned the lack of signs at reasonable intervals. Their preferred interval was no less than every 3 miles. As one who travelled 11 States with only paper maps that you might check no more than once a day I was speechless. Both these folks were in their 60's so it wasn't an age thing.

 

[Model 15-4ever]

When I moved to West Virginia, I was told I would never be considered a local. That honor was reserved for 3d generation residents only.

 

[A10]

Doesn't have to be an out of state move to encounter issues. I live on the wet side of Warshington, but lived on the dry side for a lot of years. Dry siders think wet siders are idiots, wet siders think dry siders are rubes.

Anyone who thinks like that falls into the first category....

 

[Golddollar]

In one small town was an elderly gentlemen who had come to the town as a babe in arms with his parents and remained there for the rest of his life. At his funeral, the preacher said, "Though not a native of our town, he resided here for the last 97 years of his life."

 

[Rustyt1953]

Ruthie has lived her entire life in the SW corner of Ohio. She has never referred to herself as a native.

I, on the other hand, am a steamer trunk covered in travel stickers.

 

[brendonjames65]

I have preferred to live in small towns most of my life though I got stuck in Missoula for almost 20 years.

I recently was at a small social function that involved two transplants from a west coast State and large towns. Both stated they refused to travel to Island Park Idaho, a journey of about 200 miles, because there were places that the GPS might not work en route. They also mentioned the lack of signs at reasonable intervals. Their preferred interval was no less than every 3 miles. As one who travelled 11 States with only paper maps that you might check no more than once a day I was speechless. Both these folks were in their 60's so it wasn't an age thing.

When we moved to North Western Montana, we’d either drive to the Costco in Kalispell or Missoula to stock up every couple months. I much preferred Kalispell. After spending a day in Missoula looking at BLM signs plastered all over the Main Street, I had to shake my head, I couldn’t tell the difference from Missoula and where a left from in CA.

What a lot of folks who aren’t familiar with CA don’t understand is there is a large population of Northern Californians who are no different from many rural folks from Montana, Idaho, Wyoming take your pick. Ranchers, loggers (although nowhere near like it was), trades,blue collar workers, etc. The group of guys I used to bear hunt with (before hound hunting was banned) never saw a city bigger than Redding.

With CA having almost 40 million people, you’re bound to encounter many more shall we say clueless people but don’t make the mistake of judging the entire state by those people. MT has about 1.2 million people and I met a few born and raised Montanan’s that let’s say just didn’t stack up very well but I certainly didn’t judge the rest of the state by them. Kind of the whole point of this thread, I judge each individual based on their behavior, not where they came from, always have, always will.

 

[LVSteve]

Ruthie has lived her entire life in the SW corner of Ohio. She has never referred to herself as a native.

I, on the other hand, am a steamer trunk covered in travel stickers.

I resemble that remark.

 

[pharmer]

I moved once. When I got to Osceola County 44 years ago the "culture" was different. Guns in the rack in pickups (usually an H&R or Savage ss 12 ga and a .22 of some flavor), orange groves, cattle ranches. In a bar (no "clubs" unless up in Orlando) you were expected to stand with your ball cap over your heart when "Dixie" played on the jukebox. Today is 3rd worldy with the driving force of : "You can't get there from here." I've got chameleon blood for my "super power." Joe

 

[SMSgt]

Doesn't have to be an out of state move to encounter issues. I live on the wet side of Warshington, but lived on the dry side for a lot of years. Dry siders think wet siders are idiots, wet siders think dry siders are rubes.

Anyone who thinks like that falls into the first category....

Having lived on the eastern side of WA on two separate occasions, I can confirm there is something wrong on the west side.

 

[pmanton]

Since we came to AZ, both Senators and the Governor are of the "Other" party. Our state is becoming Eastern California.

 

[LVSteve]

Since we came to AZ, both Senators and the Governor are of the "Other" party. Our state is becoming Eastern California.

See Post#71.

 

[BLACKHAWKNJ]

My one friend with family in Colorado said that state is developing a splt personality. Another friend with family in Utah said the long term residents there are getting concerned. I lived in Vermont 1956-1959, same thing.

 

[DesertFox]

Modern day carpetbaggers. History repeats itself since we as a race are not inclined to learn from our mis-steps...

 

[RetCapt]

Thoughts on out of state moving.......

When we moved to North Western Montana, we’d either drive to the Costco in Kalispell or Missoula to stock up every couple months. I much preferred Kalispell. After spending a day in Missoula looking at BLM signs plastered all over the Main Street, I had to shake my head, I couldn’t tell the difference from Missoula and where a left from in CA.

What a lot of folks who aren’t familiar with CA don’t understand is there is a large population of Northern Californians who are no different from many rural folks from Montana, Idaho, Wyoming take your pick. Ranchers, loggers (although nowhere near like it was), trades,blue collar workers, etc. The group of guys I used to bear hunt with (before hound hunting was banned) never saw a city bigger than Redding.

With CA having almost 40 million people, you’re bound to encounter many more shall we say clueless people but don’t make the mistake of judging the entire state by those people. MT has about 1.2 million people and I met a few born and raised Montanan’s that let’s say just didn’t stack up very well but I certainly didn’t judge the rest of the state by them. Kind of the whole point of this thread, I judge each individual based on their behavior, not where they came from, always have, always will.

Thank you brendanjames65.

We live in far NorCal. Redding is our major shopping city, about 1 1/2 hrs distant. We moved here as soon as I retired in '94. We are in paradise. This is a very conservative area and holds the same disdain for liberal/flaky CA as do many of the posters here. This is still 'State of Jefferson' country and that attitude is very prevalent here. The major problem is that we receive more money from Sacramento than we send down.

This is strongly pro 2A country. I taught the state mandated CCW course in our local church for almost 20 years. Really filled the place up. (Great fund raiser for our church too since I never took a dime out).

I was a firefighter/EMT here for almost 17 years. That got me into a lot of homes. I cannot recall a single one where firearms were not obvious.

Right from the beginning we were accepted. This is a region where LEOs are accepted and welcomed. My bride is equally conservative, an outgoing tomboy Miss Congeniality who fits in here perfectly.

We consider the north state to be the best part of CA. We have family down south, so we do have to travel there. But we love getting back here. It is home.

So we differ from the archetypical Californians. But against that 40m population we are too few to even be visible.

 

[A10]

Having lived on the eastern side of WA on two separate occasions, I can confirm there is something wrong on the west side.

No argument here! This ain't the Seattle I grew up in. When I was a kid we used to be able to hop a bus downtown and wander through the pawn shops without a worry (I know, "back in MY day"). I don't go down there any more. More out of disgust than anything else.

 

[delcrossv]

Illinois used to be a red state. Chicago was always blue, but couldn't override downstate. It's been consistently blue since the early '90s

NY is a solid red state.

Except for few TINY blue dots in NY City and Buffalo. The problem is that there are a gazillion more people in the cities, most all on the dime.

How can the honest people possibly compete?

You can thank Earl Warren for that. Reynolds v. Sims essentially disenfranchised everyone not living in a big city.

Reynolds v. Sims - Wikipedia

 

[Muley Gil]

"...you were expected to stand with your ball cap over your heart when "Dixie" played on the jukebox."

Doesn't everybody?

 

[RetCapt]

Thoughts on out of state moving..............

"...you were expected to stand with your ball cap over your heart when "Dixie" played on the jukebox."

Doesn't everybody?

True that. I went through the FBINA in '81. You quickly make friends at the NA since no one knows anyone else. That then becomes your social group.

I fell in with a group of confederates despite their claim that I talked funny. One of our weekend activities was going to several watering holes where we could sing along. When we sang 'Dixie' we did stand. That was the custom. Since the NA is at Quantico, VA, it was pointed out to all of us Yankee westerners that we were in the confederacy.

Those southern guys really knew how to have a good time. The FBINA was a phenomenal experience, and the camaraderie played a major part in that. Great days.

 

[Jeff423]

This whole thread makes me wonder what Native Americans thought about the Pilgrims or Jamestown?

 

[Rustyt1953]

This whole thread makes me wonder what Native Americans thought about the Pilgrims or Jamestown?

"Well, there goes the neighborhood!"