Thoughts on out of state moving & local resentment

[THE PILGRIM]

Repeat - I’m in the Base Commissary reaching for a jar of peanut butter.
A Dude rolls up in one of those motorized shopping carts, stands up and gets 4 peanut butters.
I say - you must really like peanut butter!
He replies- I live a long ways from here.
Where? He tells me a location in N NM where outsiders are not that welcome.
How do you get along with those folks?
‘My Wife’s from there.
She got several Brothers and a number of family members.
Nobody bothers me.’

 

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[sigp220.45]

I’ve lived in Michigan, Illinois, California, North Dakota, Guam, Texas, Louisiana, Montana, Idaho, New Mexico, and currently Colorado. I’ve probably got one more move in me.

Anyone in this country is free to move anywhere they want and try to make it however they want through any legal means they want.

If you don’t like it, you can outvote them or move if you want.

Its the demographics, folks. Get used to it. Or don’t. It won’t matter.

 

[Rustyt1953]

I have lived in 2 foreign countries, 4 Southern states and 3 Midwestern states.

I am sure I left a bit of me in those places and took a bit of them when I left.

I am the better for having lived in all of them.

 

[DWalt]

The worst place we ever lived with that problem was in Western Maryland. Unless your family had lived there ever since the French and Indian War, you were treated like a leper by the locals. The newer housing development we lived in was populated mainly by other outsiders like us, so it wasn't too bad.

 

[LVSteve]

When I talk they already know.

I know the feeling.

 

[SMSgt]

I lived in Miami in the early '60s when the stores had "We speak Spanish" signs in the windows. When I left a couple years later, the sighs read "We speak English." Then I spent 20 years in the service, living everywhere from Florida to Alaska and working with people from all over the country. Never gave where people were from much though. But retiring to Florida again was something of a shocker. A certain segment of the expatriates here seemed to thrive on being the loudest in the restaurants. Loudest gets the most attention. Nothing was as good as where they came from, everything should be done like ti was done there. So I continuously have to ask myself: "Why are you here?"

 

[otis24]

brandonjames65, I have had those same thoughts for years. I’m a United States citizen. Any community that I choose to move to is MY community. People just don’t suffer change well. When large groups start moving in and changing the community for those who helped build it, that creates resentment and sometimes….envy. People can live in an area their entire life and take it for granted. An “outsider “ comes in, sees the beauty and the potential of an area and they have the money to purchase the land and develop it. There is a tendency to push out the “locals “.


Now don’t get me wrong, I still like razzing the “outsiders “ just to get their goat! Especially Yankees and those from Kalifornia! Ironically, I was born in Kalifornia. My dad was born and raised in Arkansas. He moved back to Arkansas when I was a year or two old. I moved to South Dakota in 1990. It has become home to me now.

 

[Mike SC Hunter]

When the RARE occasion someone calls me a local.....I ask the if they are an alien....Usually not that nice.........We are all Locals..........Third rock out from the sun.

 

[wood714]

Like the line from the movie says, If you build it they will come. I chuckle when the folks living in states that built it complain when the people come.

My town was built by a company called International Telephone and Telegraph Corporation ITT in 1969. In 1990 there were under 19,000 people living here. When I had my place built in 2004 there were 44,000. Now there is 102,000.

A large majority of the people around here came from those New states...York, and Jersey.

 

[Ingramite]

I've lived all over and can honestly say that I had more difficulty with climate than ornery people.
One time I stepped off a curb into slush that went clean over the tops of my boots. For the rest of the day I had toes like raisins and wondered why someone chose to put up with winters like that.
Now I listen to complaints about August in Texas and bless their hearts.

 

[Kinman]

I spent the school age years in two cities with Air Bases near them. You get to know people from all over the country, kids from parents stationed at the base, retirees from the air base that settle in the town. My uncle was from the Bronx, met my aunt while stationed at Fairchild, AFB. He fell in love with the area, as did many Air Force people. One of the things I've heard from many of my current friends who were ex Air Force is that this area accepted them more readily than others, especially my black friends. I am a native Idahoan, I find it mildly irritating when newbies refer to themselves as natives just because they currently live there. If you weren't born there, you ain't native. I've lived in this town for over 60 years, I call it my town and it has always been home, we always moved back home...But I ain't native, anymore than a young airman from the Bronx, N.Y. who retired and made it his home.

 

[mrchick]

I am one of the outsiders. I moved from California to Idaho six years ago. I moved before the big migration and have to say I’m embarrassed by some of my fellow Californians that are coming here. I can see why some people are unhappy about it. Everybody’s been friendly to me, but I’m not trying to change things around here.

 

[Golddollar]

My one aunt, my recently deceased uncle and I all ended up in the same town. We came there because the employment opportunities were better. We all decided we would accept the community as we found it and try to become a part of the community. I joined the Jaycees, county bar association and a local shooting club, my uncle became a Little League coach and Hunter Safety instructor and my aunt, on her own time, started the athletic trainer program for the schools. When we went to the county fair together, we couldn't go more than 3 steps before someone who knew one of us came up to talk. Yes, I heard complaints about people who moved into the area for the lower land prices and lower taxes but then wanted to have all the amenities from back where they came from. But my family and I felt we were completely accepted. We left though because the taxes on retirement income drove us out to where we finally ended up.

 

[rwsmith]

I generally don't even think........

...about where people are from unless they treat me wrongly. Then I prefer to have to have the proper adjectives for them.

 

[Rustyt1953]

One of the things that helped me fit in during my many travels was adjusting my vocabulary in relationship to geography.

 

[coltle6920]

What makes you think that you have to tell people at your new location where you came from?

You don't have to but it's a conversation starter in most cases due likely to one's noticeable accent.

 

[coltle6920]

When I moved to Colorado from Pennsylvania everyone here was extremely nice. I had no trouble acclimating to things.

I should mention that it was 35yrs ago and things have vastly changed in both States.

 

[pantannojack]

Cold shouldering will happen everywhere we go. I was a Navy dependent, I know. Just go on about your business respectfully and form a circle around you rather than try to break in where you are not wanted.

There is justification in silence toward new comers when so many traditionally open ares are closed because of tree poaching, litter dumping at shooting pits, shooting wildly where no bullet stop is present, jet skis cutting off float planes when the try to practice touch and go on the lake, dirt bikes cutting erosion tracks vertically on forest slopes, driving faster than necessary on dusty residential roads, light pollution blotting out the night sky, general disrespect for non Adrenalin life style. If you want to live in country, Don't bring city spasms with you.

 

[LVSteve]

Yes, I heard complaints about people who moved into the area for the lower land prices and lower taxes but then wanted to have all the amenities from back where they came from.

My wife has some great stories on that one. Recently moved parents from CA or a slew of East Coast states arrive at a public school to discuss their kid's needs. The principle, backed up as needed maybe by a special needs teacher, listens patiently as the parent explains what programs the kid was in back in the state they just moved from and how they want the child enrolled in those programs here. In a large number of cases, the principle looks the parent in the eye and says, "Those sound like great programs, but other than federally mandated special needs programs, Nevada doesn't have any of those schemes". Reactions range from the obvious bluster of , "But you must have!" through to exchanged glances that clearly say "WTH have we done moving here?"

See, this is why I don't work for the school district, because I wouldn't be able to stop myself saying, "You know we don't have state income tax here, and those low property taxes compared with ____________ (insert state), what was your next clue?"