TISAS ?

[Tom Garrett]

No need to be angered and defensive. I've already mentioned my positive thoughts on the Tisas 1911. I'll certainly not disparage them, but I just bought a new Colt 1911 .45 and it works fine, straight out-of-the-box, perhaps as well as a Tisas.

I'm not angered. Everytime I post here the next guy comes on and says I'm full of ****. I'm just giving personal experience here. I get tired of one ups manship every flipping post.

 

[bobsguns]

That sounds good, but I don't need one more caliber to be short of.

It's easier for me to list the calibers in handguns that I DON'T have rather than DO have.

But buying only 1K rds of 9mm instead of 5K allows me to add-in my .38Super, 10mm, .357mag (Desert Eagle & Smiths!) & so forth.

It also helps to have a FFL buddy.

 

[bobsguns]

I'm not angered. Everytime I post here the next guy comes on and says I'm full of ****. I'm just giving personal experience here. I get tired of one ups manship every flipping post.

I've learned that if everyone has a problem with all your posts, the problem MAY not be them...............

Just sayin'..................

 

[Targetshooter08]

Are these Tisas 1911s as good as the Springfield Mil-Spec or recent lower priced Colts?

 

[Deano1]

What is a Tisas Pistol? Am I the only one who don't know?

I have the tokarev copy just for something different. Probably only put about 400 rounds through it but has been flawless.

 

[Glenn R. McMannly]

Are these Tisas 1911s as good as the Springfield Mil-Spec or recent lower priced Colts?

No.

But they're still good entry level firearms.

 

[Rodan]

No.

But they're still good entry level firearms.

The Springfield and Colts have MIM parts. Tisas do not.

The slide to frame fit and barrel lock up on my $299 Tisas is better than any factory Colt or Springfield I've owned, including my TRP. Entry level price, maybe, but quality equivalent to a much higher price point. But no prancing pony to make you feel good about those higher prices. I own 1911s from Colt, Springfield, Ruger, Kimber and Tisas. The Tisas are objectively as good as any of them.

 

[Trooper224]

Are these Tisas 1911s as good as the Springfield Mil-Spec or recent lower priced Colts?

Yes.

They all have their production quirks. But, generally speaking, yes. The only reason to buy a current production Colt is the name, which many people can't get over.

The only reason to buy a Springfield is some kind of feature set that trips your trigger. Other than that, the Tisas are just as solid.

There isn't a single objective metric anyone can use to refute that.

 

[Xfuzz]

IIRC....these were listed as "blems" a year or so back.
Priced at $318 delivered.
I can't recall what the blem was supposed to be but nary a hiccup
after over 500 rounds.
Should have snagged one in 9mm.

 

[Greyman50]

Seems opinions upset some and so be it. Just about everyone with 20-30 years Real Experience with firearms have learned quite a lot. Everybody has " take aways" from every different firearm they have fired or used. Opinions are formed from use.

 

[rockquarry]

Yes.

They all have their production quirks. But, generally speaking, yes. The only reason to buy a current production Colt is the name, which many people can't get over.

The only reason to buy a Springfield is some kind of feature set that trips your trigger. Other than that, the Tisas are just as solid.

There isn't a single objective metric anyone can use to refute that.

From reading your post, it appears you may have personally had a problem or problems with Colt 1911s at some time. Can you explain your experience? I've had good results with them, but I'm sure a bad one slips out occasionally, just like guns from all manufacturers.

 

[LVSteve]

FFL I used to see quite often is a major Colt fanboy. The real giveaway was when I mentioned how well a mutual friend's Springfield TRP handled during a range outing. He said, "Yes, I understand the TRP shoots well, but it's still a fake." Could be fun when somebody brings a Tisas into the room with him.

He's the same about ARs, too, which I find really funny given the wide range of configurations you can get in the AR style.

 

[Glenn R. McMannly]

I have the tokarev copy just for something different. Probably only put about 400 rounds through it but has been flawless.

Might I ask form where did you receive it?

 

[Trooper224]

From reading your post, it appears you may have personally had a problem or problems with Colt 1911s at some time. Can you explain your experience? I've had good results with them, but I'm sure a bad one slips out occasionally, just like guns from all manufacturers.

My experience with them stretches over forty years. Like all production 1911s FROM EVERY COMPANY some are good, some aren't. Some decades are better than others. Some samples of one are better than others. "I'm sure a bad one slips out occasionally." That's the standard, pat answer every fanboy has when their sacred cow of choice squeezes out a turd. Another less sacred cow in the herd does it and, "See, off shore garbage!" The holy talisman does it and, "Well, every now and then...."

It's not that Colts are bad, it's that they aren't really any better than the others. Given they're the legacy leader, and for the money they charge, there shouldn't be any defects. Things like extractors without tension, creepy triggers and ill fit thumb safeties shouldn't occur on guns costing over a grand. But they regularly occur on Colts.

If I have to adjust an extractor, or clean up a trigger, why would I want to do that on a gun costing near a grand, when I can do it on a gun costing four hundred dollars?

The last 1911s I used that were good to go out of the box were Dan Wessons. I can't remember the last time that happened with a Colt.

I currently own two Tisas. I've tweaked them for accuracy and function and I've modified them for preference. In the end, I have no more than $800 into either one. In all likelihood I would have done similar work on a Colt with a base price matching that. For what? A dancing pony on the slide? The only Colt I still own was made in 1917. There are clear reasons for this.

 

[rockquarry]

Seems opinions upset some and so be it. Just about everyone with 20-30 years Real Experience with firearms have learned quite a lot. Everybody has " take aways" from every different firearm they have fired or used. Opinions are formed from use.

Some opinions "are formed from use". True, but it's pretty obvious many opinions are formed solely from reading something on Internet forums. Often it doesn't matter if the information is valid or not. However, opinions based on actual experience do occur.

 

[rockquarry]

My experience with them stretches over forty years. Like all production 1911s FROM EVERY COMPANY some are good some aren't. Some decades are better than others. Some samples of one are better than others.

It's not that Colts are bad, it's that they aren't really better than the others. Given they're the legacy leader, and for the money they charge, there shouldn't be any defects. Things like extractors without tension, creepy triggers and ill fit thumb safeties shouldn't occur on guns costing over a grand. But they regularly occur on Colts.

If I have to adjust an extractor, or clean up a trigger, why would I want to do that on a gun costing near a grand, when I can do it on a gun costing four hundred dollars?

the last 1911s I used that were good to go out of the box were Dan Wessons. I can't remember the last time that happened with a Colt.

I currently own two Tisas. I've tweaked them for accuracy and functions and I've modified them for preference. In the end, I have no more than $800 into either one. The only Colt I still own was made in 1917. There are clear reasons for this.

I had no idea the defects you cited were so widespread. I've never encountered any of them. I guess I've been very fortunate with Colt 1911s. I'd probably buy another. And, as I mentioned before, I'm not criticizing Tisas; never owned one but have heard only good things about them and from real people, face-to-face.

 

[Trooper224]

I had no idea the defects you cited were so widespread. I've never encountered any of them. I guess I've been very fortunate with Colt 1911s. I'd probably buy another. And, as I mentioned before, I'm not criticizing Tisas; never owned one but have heard only good things about them and from real people, face-to-face.

These issues are pretty common across the 1911 niche. This is due to companies taking a design that's over a century old and adapting it to manufacturing with machine processes alone. With a 1911 there's just somethings you need to lay hands on to get right. It's just the state of things.

 

[Narragansett]

I have a Tisas Stingray. Aluminum frame/steel slide. I have maybe 800 rounds through it, and yesterday was my first hiccup. I had a fail to eject. But, in all honesty the chamber was way dirty, and I was using steel cases.

What I do not like is the trigger. It is hard to keep on target while squeezing. I do not have a trigger pull gauge but i would estimate 7 pounds. I will sell it off before I put 300 into a 429 dollar gun for a trigger job. I do not have the tooling or experience to do the work myself. Beyond the trigger, it is worth all of what I paid for it

 

[Trooper224]

I have a Tisas Stingray. Aluminum frame/steel slide. I have maybe 800 rounds through it, and yesterday was my first hiccup. I had a fail to eject. But, in all honesty the chamber was way dirty, and I was using steel cases.

What I do not like is the trigger. It is hard to keep on target while squeezing. I do not have a trigger pull gauge but i would estimate 7 pounds. I will sell it off before I put 300 into a 429 dollar gun for a trigger job. I do not have the tooling or experience to do the work myself. Beyond the trigger, it is worth all of what I paid for it

Or, you can spend a few bucks on a sear spring from Cylinder & Slide. That'll solve the problem.

My son in law has the 1911A1 ASF. The trigger weighed at 6.5 pounds out of the box. The C&S sear spring dropped it to an even four.

 

[MelvinWalker]

FFL I used to see quite often is a major Colt fanboy. The real giveaway was when I mentioned how well a mutual friend's Springfield TRP handled during a range outing. He said, "Yes, I understand the TRP shoots well, but it's still a fake." Could be fun when somebody brings a Tisas into the room with him.

He's the same about ARs, too, which I find really funny given the wide range of configurations you can get in the AR style.

The AR fanbois are the worst of all....

The modern AR lower is the exact same whether it has PSA, S&W, Spikes Tactical or any other rollmark. There are multiple torture tests on YouTube and the $400 AR fares about as well as the $2000 AR