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Doesn't sound like much of a real "test".
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It is, if the entire premise of buying a $2000 AR is because it's advertised as more durable than the budget AR.
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I think you will agree that nothing is designed or manufactured to be unduly abused, regardless of the cost. Anything can be destroyed, just ask the YouDupe half-wit torture "testers". Again, not really a "test" worth much in the eyes of the practical-minded.
One of the four linchpins of "milspec" is as follows, and is simulating a firefight where many mags are dumped and the rifle falls in the mud and simulates hard combat conditions:
Testing and Evaluation:
Mil-spec products are often subjected to rigorous testing to ensure they meet the required standards and can withstand the demands of military use
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You're speaking now of military testing, rigorous though it may be. It's still not simpleton YouDupe torture testing. I'm through as this is not worthy of argument.
I've looked over & over & NOWHERE did I see where *I* mentioned PSA. ANYWHERE.
I own several PSA lowers & all have been first class.
So you're attempting to say I wrote things when in fact, I did not. You've proven yourself to be an untrustworthy individual, someone I have NO time for.
Good day.
Trooper224
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I thought we were having a fairly productive thread on Tisas pistols and their comparative value. Then the children started fighting at recess.
Too bad.
Too bad.
M2MikeGolf
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Trooper is right; that devolved fast.
I saw this thread and was very interested in it as I purchased a stainless Colt Government model on sale at the PX last month. For the record I own a Government model made in 1927 (my grandfathers), two "classic" models (one government model and one commander) and a Remington Rand 1911A1 (1943). All of them, to include my current model function flawlessly. I qualified for my carry license here in Texas with the commander out of the box in '14. The instructor was an old Ranger, and a Glock 19 guy, but was really impressed with my commander. My granddads old government model is amazing, still shoots well, but has that 20's era wide hammer that'll pinch you pretty nicely.
But back to the subject, when I purchased my stainless Colt (it has series 70 stamped on the slide, interestingly, my other two classics don't), the PX guy showed me a Tisas as I knew CMP was offering them. I liked it, and was curious to see what owners say about them. Before things took a sad turn on this thread, I got the impression that it's a pretty universal thumbs up from owners. Considering one now in fact. I don't have all Colts because I'm a "fanboy", it has just ended up that way. I've carried my Opa's government model for over 40 years, he bought it at the PX in Tientsin China in 1930, just seemed like a thing for me to do like he did. He carried his in Europe in WWII, I took it back to Germany in 1984 to my first duty station, never had a problem with a Colt Government model or the one 1911A1 I have. Maybe I'm just lucky. But that Tisas is kinda' calling me
I guess that is why the toilets the USAF bought cost $2K each.
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The 1911 is just a beautiful design, always has been. Browning hit all of the correct boxes when he designed it. Consider that the really old guns had non hardened slides except for wear points and had to have a hardened steel plug behind the cartridge to not wear out. The ones I used in VN 1966-67 were worn out and rattle traps but they still worked fine. Now take that same design and use CNC machinery and much better steel and see what you get: Low scrap rate, higher production and a much tighter fresher gun that doesn't wear out. These new 1911s are just a great gun period. Put them up against a bent sheet metal plastic competitor and they will outlast them every time. 100 years from now these Tisas will still be alive and kicking.
I bought this on the 14th ( our anniversary) at the urging of my wife, seems like a very nice 1911 and will get shot a good bit in the next month so we will see !
I'm a lefty so having the ambi safety is nice right out of the box. Have had and shot colt 1911s since 1977, my take on many of the problems they seem to get blamed for were brought on by hobby gunsmiths, and I would include myself in that group.
I'm a lefty so having the ambi safety is nice right out of the box. Have had and shot colt 1911s since 1977, my take on many of the problems they seem to get blamed for were brought on by hobby gunsmiths, and I would include myself in that group.
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My experience is that Colt 1911s run fine when they are in factory spec. But I only own two. They may be people on this forum that have more experience and knowledge.
I'm glad that you said that, even though it is something that people don't like to hear. 1911s and AR-15s are hugely popular because their design (pretty straightforward in the case of the 1911) attracts at-home "gunsmiths" who can't wait to "make it their own" or are certain that they know more about how to make them run than the manufacturers. And, believe me, I get that, and there's nothing wrong with that. Ninety-nine percent of the time, we are all here just to have fun. But I wouldn't want to work in customer service when the hobbyist sends his "defective" gun in under warranty.
I knew a guy who had done his bit in the military during peace time. I asked him how he liked his issue M-4. He said he didn't care about shooting it, but he enjoyed taking it apart.
I'm glad that you said that, even though it is something that people don't like to hear. 1911s and AR-15s are hugely popular because their design (pretty straightforward in the case of the 1911) attracts at-home "gunsmiths" who can't wait to "make it their own" or are certain that they know more about how to make them run than the manufacturers. And, believe me, I get that, and there's nothing wrong with that. Ninety-nine percent of the time, we are all here just to have fun. But I wouldn't want to work in customer service when the hobbyist sends his "defective" gun in under warranty.
I knew a guy who had done his bit in the military during peace time. I asked him how he liked his issue M-4. He said he didn't care about shooting it, but he enjoyed taking it apart.
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Nothing wrong with the Turkish or Philippine guns. I recently got a Grissim 10mm commander at a gun show. It had the light rail , bomar type sights , checkered front strap , ambi safeties all the frills.It was only 350 I suspect because the trigger pull was around 10 lbs. A afternoon bending springs and using a file and now it's 4 lbs and shoots anything I run through it accurately.
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Perhaps a simple suggestion for those " considering" a Tisas. Figure what you can buy for around $400? About 2-3 nights out , movie and dining with wife, couple trips to grocery store( know we have to eat) maybe 1 trip to vet with best dog or cat. Just a few off top of my head……
Go to your favorite gun store and check a standard GI type Tisas out. Give up the around $400, get your ammo and go shoot it. nuf sed.
Go to your favorite gun store and check a standard GI type Tisas out. Give up the around $400, get your ammo and go shoot it. nuf sed.
I bought a used Tisas stainless Duty off GunBroker last spring for $319.00.
With all the add on's it was $381.00. I took it out and shot 104 rounds thru
it which is 13, 8 round magazines. These were E-landers and Metalform.
Not a jam. So I tried it again. No jams. After 5 iterations of this I thought the
gun was good to go. I took it out with a mix of what 1911 mags I have and it
jammed several times on the high dollar Wilson 47D's. Don't know why and
don't care. Just don't use That style mag with this gun.
I took it over to my friend who's a 1911 snob and thinks his Colt Gold cup
is the bottom of the barrel of what he shoots. He looked it over and dry fired
it and proclaimed the trigger was at least as good as the Gold cup and almost
as good as his Wilson but not near as good as his Ed Brown.
With that endorsement, I pronounce it good and am looking for another.
With all the add on's it was $381.00. I took it out and shot 104 rounds thru
it which is 13, 8 round magazines. These were E-landers and Metalform.
Not a jam. So I tried it again. No jams. After 5 iterations of this I thought the
gun was good to go. I took it out with a mix of what 1911 mags I have and it
jammed several times on the high dollar Wilson 47D's. Don't know why and
don't care. Just don't use That style mag with this gun.
I took it over to my friend who's a 1911 snob and thinks his Colt Gold cup
is the bottom of the barrel of what he shoots. He looked it over and dry fired
it and proclaimed the trigger was at least as good as the Gold cup and almost
as good as his Wilson but not near as good as his Ed Brown.
With that endorsement, I pronounce it good and am looking for another.
LOL , Back in the early 80's the only 1911 was a Colt. I shot IPSC then and can tell you they ran from Great to can't get rid of it fast enough. Guns made with computers now are just better and more consistent.
