To Re-Load or Not???

Since my Ubber fun day at the range yesterday.... was gunna try some new loads

Cabela's had Nossler Bullets on sale so picked up some 50gr and 40gr rds

Anyone loaded any 40gr bullets before..... Thought i'd see how they perform

Thanks all


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Stav, I been very tempted to get some 40's and try 'em out, just haven't been able to convince myself to do it. Glad I don't have to buy my experience this time. I will be very interested to know how well they perform. The 50's shoot VERY good, almost as good as the 69gr SMK's but waaay more explosive impacts. Let us know how the 40's work out and if you could possibly chrony some that would be nice too :)
 
I thought the 40's were supposed to be too light for our twist rates but I would sure like to know. As light as I go right now is 53gr V-Max but they shoot great.
Another question, I am thinking about ordering a box of Nosler Varmageddon 55gr with the metallic/poly ballistic tip. Has anyone loaded these and what were your results?
 
Stav

I havn't read any of the posts so this is just my opinion.

To me reloading is a hobby. I enjoy it. I like to play a bit with the loads and figure what works well. Is reloading cost effective, maybe. Should you do it to save a ton of money, well maybe not depending on how much you shoot. Depending on the round depends on how much you save. I reload shotgun slugs and save a ton of money but I already have the loader, pot and the rest of the stuff. Reloading for 9mm makes no sense money wise but I do it anyway because I enjoy it. Now reloading for larger cals like 30-06 makes sense you also save quite a bit there. It really depends on the amount you shoot. If you figure your time and cost of equipment I would dough it makes sense.
Seeing how many rounds you can pump out in an hour leads me to believe your trying to save money and time is of the essence. If that is the case maybe buying ammo in bulk may make more sense. Also pumping out rounds as quickly as possible may lead to problems in quality control and I wouldn't suggest it. Like most hobbies you can't count your time.
I worked out the cost per round on a bunch of the stuff I load and yes I save money on each one. Maybe not enough to warrant the initial investment but the more you reload the cheaper it gets per round. I also load rounds that are more expensive than I can buy but the components are of higher quality and are purpose specific which, to me, is worth the cost to get a better product.
The other end of reloading is to find the round that works best in your particular firearm. Another part of the fun but it takes time. Will the results be worth the time and money only you can say. If your shootin deer at 100yards it really won't make much difference. Now 1000 yard competitions yea it will.

The down and dirty of it is "if it ain't fun" just buy the stuff unless your shooting a ton of rounds a week. Remember if you need to pump out a ton of ammo your press won't be cheap either.

Another thing to remember is better than owning your own swimming pool is having a buddy that owns one.

JMHBAO
 
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Stav

I havn't read any of the posts so this is just my opinion.

To me reloading is a hobby. I enjoy it. I like to play a bit with the loads and figure what works well. Is reloading cost effective, maybe. Should you do it to save a ton of money, well maybe not depending on how much you shoot. Depending on the round depends on how much you save. I reload shotgun slugs and save a ton of money but I already have the loader, pot and the rest of the stuff. Reloading for 9mm makes no sense money wise but I do it anyway because I enjoy it. Now reloading for larger cals like 30-06 makes sense you also save quite a bit there. It really depends on the amount you shoot. If you figure your time and cost of equipment I would dough it makes sense.
Seeing how many rounds you can pump out in an hour leads me to believe your trying to save money and time is of the essence. If that is the case maybe buying ammo in bulk may make more sense. Also pumping out rounds as quickly as possible may lead to problems in quality control and I wouldn't suggest it. Like most hobbies you can't count your time.
I worked out the cost per round on a bunch of the stuff I load and yes I save money on each one. Maybe not enough to warrant the initial investment but the more you reload the cheaper it gets per round. I also load rounds that are more expensive than I can buy but the components are of higher quality and are purpose specific which, to me, is worth the cost to get a better product.
The other end of reloading is to find the round that works best in your particular firearm. Another part of the fun but it takes time. Will the results be worth the time and money only you can say. If your shootin deer at 100yards it really won't make much difference. Now 1000 yard competitions yea it will.

The down and dirty of it is "if it ain't fun" just buy the stuff unless your shooting a ton of rounds a week. Remember if you need to pump out a ton of ammo your press won't be cheap either.

Another thing to remember is better than owning your own swimming pool is having a buddy that owns one.

JMHBAO
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This is all about fun for me.... ya i save some $$$$$, well, really just get ta shoot more:D

Now i still cant pull the Trigger on 9mm or .357 loading.... like ya say , just dosent make to much sense YET:cool:

maybe soon though... we shall see
 
storeyteller said:
Stav, I been very tempted to get some 40's and try 'em out, just haven't been able to convince myself to do it. Glad I don't have to buy my experience this time. I will be very interested to know how well they perform. The 50's shoot VERY good, almost as good as the 69gr SMK's but waaay more explosive impacts. Let us know how the 40's work out and if you could possibly chrony some that would be nice too :)
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oneyeopn said:
I thought the 40's were supposed to be too light for our twist rates but I would sure like to know. As light as I go right now is 53gr V-Max but they shoot great.
Another question, I am thinking about ordering a box of Nosler Varmageddon 55gr with the metallic/poly ballistic tip. Has anyone loaded these and what were your results?
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not sure why we couldnt shoot the 40gr:eek: so ill give it a try.... what the heck......:D

Spent some Series Time... research, Reading, weighing my Options
Still a Little Baffled that a small gr Bullet would still be able to use a HIGH powder load like a 55gr... well I guess when yer trying to achieve 3500fps, guess it makes sense... kinda:cool:

So where do i stand now after 3hrs of playing

Bullets
Nosler Balistic Tip Spitzer BT 40gr and 50gr lead and the old faithfull 55gr FMJ-BT Hornady

WC844 powder and my Brass.... Al prepped and ready

25.8gr powder All 3 Bullets
24.9gr powder 40gr and 50gr only (already tested this low with 55gr FMJ-BT, didnt like it)
26.2gr powder 40gr and 55gr only (std load for 55gr has been 26.8gr so Testing a bit lower...Just becouse)

70rds ta test.... will do 2 groups of 5rds of each Bullet, all Chrono, and see what the results are

Should be another fun day... Also have some HOT 9mm, 38s and .357 ta try out... all factory.... heck even have some .22 rds I may try.....LOL

Ill let ya know what Happens guys.....

Wish me luck


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oneyeopn said:
I thought the 40's were supposed to be too light for our twist rates but I would sure like to know. As light as I go right now is 53gr V-Max but they shoot great.
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I was thinking that too at one point, but I have a friend that shoots 40gr bullets out of a 1:9 twist 22-250 at 4000fps. The bullets don't fly apart and shoot <MOA in his rifle. We don't get anywhere near that velocity, so I now think they will work. I am often wrong though!
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GMC man said:
M & P 15 ----1 Chronograph -------0
Went to the range and got some data before I shot my Chronograph :(

now I have to start all over again after buying a new chronograph and stand.

I think I may get this one Chronographs | MagnetoSpeed
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chrony will repair them pretty cheaply if it is repairable. And you arent the first person to shoot their chrono and wont be the last.
 
It tumbled and came apart, I really did total it and the stand it was on. One guy told me he shot 5 of them so thats why I was looking for a different type plus it took way to long to set up.

but thanks Grover that makes me feel a little better about the whole mess :D
 
ok I got the new chronograph it kinda hurt $288.63 but if I dont have to worry about replacing this one due to it jumping in front of my rounds it will be worth it. :rolleyes:

what do you guys think? has anyone tried this kind of chrono yet?
 
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Great range Day yesterday with my Chrono.... it stayed in Place GMC... unlike yer wondering one...LOL... Sorry for yer luck bud

Heading outa town for my B-Day so will have to do my report when i get Back

Liked the 40gr and 50gr, 40gr needed a higher Powder Charge Test though

More to come guys


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stavman11 said:
Great range Day yesterday with my Chrono.... it stayed in Place GMC... unlike yer wondering one...LOL... Sorry for yer luck bud

Heading outa town for my B-Day so will have to do my report when i get Back

Liked the 40gr and 50gr, 40gr needed a higher Powder Charge Test though

More to come guys


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Happy Bday :D

Perhaps I should have put a leash on my chrono or sent it to obedience training school first :eek:
 
oneyeopn said:
What is the longest COL anyone has loaded too?
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on the 40gr and 50gr Balistics i just loaded I had some at 2.28 and 2.275.... VERY tight in the mag but shot fine...

Those Bullets are HUGE compared to FMJBT....

So theses next test loads I will seat them in a LOT more....


Working on my DATA from Friday Now.... just got Home.... watching NFL then try and post results


:D
 
stavman11 said:
not sure why we couldnt shoot the 40gr:eek: so ill give it a try.... what the heck......:D

Spent some Series Time... research, Reading, weighing my Options
Still a Little Baffled that a small gr Bullet would still be able to use a HIGH powder load like a 55gr... well I guess when yer trying to achieve 3500fps, guess it makes sense... kinda:cool:

So where do i stand now after 3hrs of playing

Bullets
Nosler Balistic Tip Spitzer BT 40gr and 50gr lead and the old faithfull 55gr FMJ-BT Hornady

WC844 powder and my Brass.... Al prepped and ready

25.8gr powder All 3 Bullets
24.9gr powder 40gr and 50gr only (already tested this low with 55gr FMJ-BT, didnt like it)
26.2gr powder 40gr and 55gr only (std load for 55gr has been 26.8gr so Testing a bit lower...Just becouse)

70rds ta test.... will do 2 groups of 5rds of each Bullet, all Chrono, and see what the results are

Should be another fun day... Also have some HOT 9mm, 38s and .357 ta try out... all factory.... heck even have some .22 rds I may try.....LOL

Ill let ya know what Happens guys.....

Wish me luck


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So hit the range like I said on Friday, here is the synopsis of my trip....

the 40gr Bullets performed Real well. Max FPS was 3033, lowest was 2805. Seemed very accurate at all loads, but could see the difference at the high FPS Loads
Need to go Higher towards the 28gr level and see how they do:D

The 50gr seemed very similar to the 40gr as far as accuracy. Highest FPS was 3056 lowest was 2805..... Actualy sweet spot seemed in the 2850-2900 range.....


Like I said.... OAL was too long, but all fired just Fine. Gunna adjust the Seating Depth and add some more powder to the 40gr and see what I get next trip out


So yes, 40gr work Great in the Sport guys....
 
Thanks for the report Stav. Gonna have to try some of the 40's.
The barrel for my .204 ruger build won't be here til the first of the year, but I got my dies, brass and bullets in this week...39gr SBK's and 32 Nosler FBHP. Data says +/- 4000fps. Can't wait!
Don't feel bad about the chrony GMC...I've killed one myself, and seen a few more killed.
 
GMC man said:
good news guys
Hornady Handbook of Cartridge Reloading: 9th Edition Reloading Manual

its out and just bought one :D 29.99
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GMC Man, do you have a way to scan pages? I would like to see if they have more info on the CFE 223 before I buy one, or more choices of bullets, plus it is supposed to have the load data for 5.56, Man I hope so.

I loaded 3 75gr Amax bullets today with a COL of 2.540, I am already having to handload singly into my rifle my 75gr Amax's so I thought what the heck. The overall chamber length including leade or throat for a 5.56Nato chamber is 2.550", for a .223 it is 2.410", so I am going to minimize the jump into the rifling and see what it does. Hope it does well.
 
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