To the LE-Security members, step inside........

[kevin in nh]

probably from a program where excess military weapons are loaned to LE Depts.

We have some M14s from this 1033 program.

We have 4 select fire M-14s, 3 are Springfields, and one is a TRW! What a shooter with Lake City.....other than the one time we took it to the range they have been gathering dust in the arms room the 15 years I have been there.
What is your duty handgun?
Sig 229 .357 SIG-Issued

Holster-Safariland

Ammo used?-125 Gr Gold Dots

Back-up gun-not allowed but some do

Shotgun-replaced w/556 Shame as the 870 gets everyones attention

Rifle?-Bushmaster 5.56 FMJ

Plus

TAZER X-26, Baton, O.C.

 

[Scotter260]

1. Sig 226R DAK 9mm

2. Personal - don't want to use an issued .40 Glock but could

3. Safariland 6280 STX basketweave w/ light provision

4. Issued Speer 124 grain +P Gold Dots

5. Glock 26 - same GDs

6. OLD 870 Magnum cut to 14" - on a tax exempt Form 1 - Dept. shotgun - plain old Remington green box 00 buck and slugs

7. Colt Gov't Carbine lower with a BCM 16" lightweight middy upper - Speer 64 grain Gold Dots

 

[robotoid]

We qual rifles 4 times a year, only twice a year for pistol, back up and off duty....yeah, right!!

 

[Bookin]

SW 4006TSW
Issued
Safariland 6280
Various brands of 180gr JHP
SW Shield 40
Rem 870
Various Colt AR-15's, M-16's, and Bushy XM-15's. but transitioning solely to Sig M400's.

 

[safearm]

I retired in 2007 with the following:
Glock 21-issued
Safariland Top Gun-duty uniform; Blackhawk Serpa-office uniform
230 grain JHP (state contract)
S&W 642-issued
Remington 11-87
AR-15 platform; various manufacturers and configurations

 

[loc n load]

Rifles on duty

Those of you who carry rifles, do you have to qualify on them? Seems a very high percentage of you have them. Like I said in an earlier post, that struck me as odd. Most LEO's who post here are gun enthusiasts, is there a similar percentage of non-enthusiasts who have rifles in the trunk too? Is this a recent trend? Seems everyone in Law Enforcement is almost a pseudo SWAT member now.

The agency I retired from always had rifles in their armory....At one time I was issued an M-14 ( a real M-14), then we were issued M-16's in 1991 and then M-4's later ( these were select fire weapons) Many agencies have been authorizing and/or issuing AR's ( rifles or carbines) during the past decade or longer... as an LE/FA instructor I ran qual's and a course of instruction for the "patrol rifle/carbine".....in this day and age, any agency that allows any type of firearm for duty use will require the officer to complete a course of instruction for that specific firearm and qualify periodically with that firearm.....to do otherwise will result in liability for the agency and officer in the event of litigation in a use of force issue.....We qual'ed with our M-4's and MP5's and when I was a "Marksman/Observer" equipped with a .308 bolt gun, I had to log monthly "cold bore" shots and recertify periodically by completing an FBI recertification course for "Marksman/Observers".....notice I am taking pains not to use the "S" word. Most agencies have very strict guidelines and written policies that govern the issue/carrying of firearms on duty, to operate outside of those policies and guidelines will mean that the officer is "no longer within the scope of his/her employment".

 

[FCSO117]

S&W M&P 40 issued to patrol / 40c issued to admin / det
Safariland ALS
Spear Gold Dot HP 180
S&W 337 AirTi 38 spl personal
Mossberg 590 12 ga issued
US Miltary Surplus M-16 issued

 

[4506517]

Seems everyone in Law Enforcement is almost a pseudo SWAT member now.

Wow.....really? I think I see waaaaay more civilians trying to be "pseudo SWAT members" than I see LEOs.

I don't know of a single agency that just hands out rifles. Of course everyone has to qualify with them....I can't imagine in this day and age an agency would just hand out a rifle to any officer without training. The legal liability a municipality would open itself up to would be unreal.

Speaking for my agency only, you have to ask then go through a training class to have a rifle. Then you go and qualify with it. Heck, you even have to ask to carry a shotgun.....of course you have to qualify with it.

I never thought I would see that type of attitude towards LE here of all places, and thank goodness it is only one member.

 

[grif684]

I don't think he meant "pseudo SWAT member" in a bad way, I think he's just referring to the number of agencies that carry patrol rifles. It really wasn't that long ago when only the very rural officers carried patrol rifles, or SWAT members. It has become nearly standard in this day and age for ALL patrol officers to carry and/or be issued rifles, almost as common as having a shotgun now. And I agree, everyone qualifies with a patrol rifle, just like every " tool" we carry. We must qualify and requalify with every weapon we carry, whether lethal or less than lethal, at least annually, as i'm sure others do as well. Patrol rifles are another byproduct of society today, much like OC spray, batons, and tasers, they have become necessary tools of the profession.

 

[st regis]

Cant afford to wait for SWAT anymore. It's the patrol officer/deputy that will take care of the situation, in the event a situation arises that requires the use of a rifle. Columbine.

 

[KarmannGhia]

What is your duty handgun? M&P 40 (Replaced Beretta 92G two years ago)

Personal or issued? Issued

Holster used? Blackhawk Serpa

Ammo used? Speer GoldDot

Back-up gun? Personal Ruger LCP or S&W 642 (any personally owned 380 to 40cal DA or DAO semi or 38/357 DA revolver that you can qualify with)

Shotgun? Personal H&R partner protector pump (issued Rem 870 or any personally owned 12ga pump after mandatory course and qualification)

Rifle? Personal Olympic Arms CAR-15 (any personally owned factory AR15/M4gery - no parts rifles - after mandatory course and qualification)

 

[18DAI]

1- S&W 4566

2- Personally owned

3- Safariland paddle

4- Winchester RA45T

5- S&W 4513TSW 6-shot mag variant

6- Mossberg 590

7- N/A

Regards 18DAI

 

[Leiden]

Duty Pistol: S&W 4506
Back-Up: S&W 649 (soon to be replaced by Ruger SP101)
Duty Ammunition: Speer Gold Dot 230 gr. .45 and 125 gr .38
Holsters: Safariland 6280 in Class B and Bianchi 99 in Class A with backup in Kramer ankle holster
Shotgun: 14" Remington 870 with wood stock set
Rifle: 0-1-full Colt Commando 11.5"

I work in Detectives. Patrol units usually have .308s.

 

[grif684]

Cant afford to wait for SWAT anymore. It's the patrol officer/deputy that will take care of the situation, in the event a situation arises that requires the use of a rifle. Columbine.

Exactly my point....we no longer have the luxury to stand by for specialized units when there is an active shooter, we MUST act immediately, and be prepared to do so....

 

[joesmith357]

I never thought I would see that type of attitude towards LE here of all places, and thank goodness it is only one member.

Lighten up Francis...

I don't think he meant "pseudo SWAT member" in a bad way, I think he's just referring to the number of agencies that carry patrol rifles.

That's exactly right. Thanks for not judging. Was not in any way meant to be demeaning or insulting towards law enforcement or anyone in particular.

In fact my question came from personally knowing several patrol deputies in multiple counties SO's and local PD's, none of which are issued rifles. One of which is a patrol sergeant. This is in a major metro area. They do have shotguns. I figured if it was so common place, a decent sample of Sheriff's deputies in the 3rd largest county in my state would be representative of law enforcement in general. Guess not.

Sorry if I offended one of you.

It really wasn't that long ago when only the very rural officers carried patrol rifles, or SWAT members. It has become nearly standard in this day and age for ALL patrol officers to carry and/or be issued rifles, almost as common as having a shotgun now.

Thanks for clarifying that in a courteous manner.

 

[grif684]

Joesmith357, no problem. In the not-to-distant future patrol rifles will probably be as common as sidearms. I read your original post about your surprise at the number of agencies who now utilize patrol rifles, and i'm sure you're not the only one shocked by the common use today of rifles in law enforcement, it's just not one of those things that makes the news....but they are here to stay, at least until replaced by some futuristic ray gun type (read phaser) weapon.....

 

[snowman.45]

1. G17
2. Issued
3. Safariland SSIII 070
4. Speer GDHP 124 gr. +p
5. M&P Shield 9mm or 340 Sc (Buffalo Bore 158 LHP)
6. Remington 870, 14"
7. Bushmaster M-4 w/64 gr. Black Hills ammo

 

[eddie234]

5906 9mm
Personal
Don Hume h740 sh
Remington hollow points
Bodyguard 380
Remington 870 with either buckshot or slugs
M&P 15 5.56


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[SheffieldPD380]

As far as my Department, all they do is supply the ammo. We have the following issued in each caliber:

.9mm= Federal 124 Grain HST
.40 S&W= Federal 180 Grain HST
.45 ACP= Gold Dot 230 Grain

As far as handguns, in our department we have the following:
Glocks: Lot of them. 17C, 19, 21, 22, 23
Beretta: 1 PX4 Storm .9mm and 1 96 .40 S&W
S&W: 1 SW99 .9mm , 2 M&Ps (one 9 and one 40) and 1 5903
1911: 1 Springfield Mil-spec
Sigs: 1 229r .9mm
Springfield: 1 XD .45


Shotguns. We have a little of everything. Mossbergs, Remingtons, Stevens, H&R, etc.

Rifles: Various ARs

 

[Browncoat]

Stuck with a Sig Sauer P229R in .40 that is issued.,Not my first choice but it has been pretty reliable. The pistol is a brick though gets old after a 12 hour shift.......

Issued rifle is a DPMS Kitty Kat [SBR] with a 7.5 inch barrel and a Noveski Pig installed. That is if I don't use one of my personal rifles.