Transporting alcohol while carrying (not consuming)
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Actually, in Missouri, it no longer is illegal. This links you to a change which became effective a couple years ago. As I recall, it was part of one of Missouri's revisions to the CCW laws. You must handle the firearm in a negligent or unlawful manner, or discharge the firearm (except when acting in self defense). Yup. You read that right. No matter, the thought of carrying and then have to actually use a firearm in self defense while taking a taste or two still makes me think "What if . . . "
Possessing a Firearm While Intoxicated in Missouri
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YOU ARE WRONG!!!!
You probably should have read the entire thread BEFORE posting words that are wholly inaccurate.
Be safe.
You probably should have read the entire thread BEFORE posting words that are wholly inaccurate.
Be safe.
(emphasis added)
Arik
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Not in Pa!
Thats weird. I was just there less thab a year ago and got my ccw. It was a felony to simply possess gun and ammo while under the influence of alcohol. Maybe my ccw instructor was stating an outdated law?
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Rastoff
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In CA the law makes no mention of alcohol. However, the individual issuing authorities have the ability to put further restrictions on the license. Most add that being under the influence of alcohol is cause for revocation.
If I recall correctly, the law changed in 2010. Would have been effective in August 2010.
Here it is: Missouri House Bill 1692
Passed along with Castle Doctrine.
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Rastoff
US Veteran
It's a sad but true fact that instructors often teach wrong information. The intent of what he said is OK because it will keep you from drinking and carrying. However, the content is incorrect.
When I start my class I always begin with the caveat that the students should always check the law for themselves. I try my best to be up to date, but it's possible I'm missing something.
Further, anyone that wants to quote the law had better have a reference to said law. Without that it's pure FUD. Any law I quote includes the reference to that law.
Exactly. Nobody is saying it's a great idea to drink and carry, but the idea stemmed from a concern that an otherwise law abiding citizen who had tossed back a couple would be attacked and then create an instant felony for himself by defending life and property. As for who teaches what correctly or incorrectly, I've seen a group of three or four instructors almost come to blows at the LGS over issues like these and what is legal or illegal. Do your own research.
fredj338
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Because someone brought up having a beer while carrying. I love posters that feel the need to tell people what to say where. Reminds me of liberal college professors.
Seeing a "lock" in the near future . . . 
7shooter
Member
Minnesota allows carry permit holders to have an alcohol level of less than .04 and still be legal. A level above that will void the permit for that occasion. In any event it is a dumb idea to have any alcohol on board when carrying. The civil liability attorneys would have fun with that one.
CowboyKen
Member
So you agree that you have no support for the absolute that you posted (just like those who contend that it is "a felony" to consume alcohol while carrying, in Nevada you are legal up to BAC of 0.10) but still insist that you are correct because "I have family who have been and are in the law enforcement business ... ." I love the internet.
So I will ask again does anyone here have case law or other authoritative source to support some of these contentions about how the legal system will treat you if you are involved in a bona fide self defense shooting after you have had an adult beverage? Or any of the other outrageous contentions made above.
Ken
p.s.; Talk about thread drift!
gunfighter48
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In Washington State you can't carry in places where a minor is not allowed to go. So no carry in bars or taverns. There's no mention of consuming alcohol and CCW. But everyone I know that carries DOESN'T drink when carrying. It's just common sense.
There is more misinformation and out and out lies posted in this thread than most...and that's saying something.
I wonder why people post stuff that is simply NOT true. Moreover, I don't dig it when they fail to acknowledge and/or correct their error(s.)
Be safe.
I wonder why people post stuff that is simply NOT true. Moreover, I don't dig it when they fail to acknowledge and/or correct their error(s.)
Be safe.
Anything related to firearms and alcoholProsecution for what offense(s)?
Be safe.
fredj338
Member
I am sure if someone wanted to spend the time to research case law, they would find a host of incidents where someone was injured by another & that person was under the influence, so their judgment was borught into question. So to think it wouldn't come into play for a gun accident or SD shooting that is grey, you are kidding yourself my friend. Having even a single beer puts you ate risk should you be involved in a shooting immediately after. Drinking at all, impairs you. I never met a drunk that didn't believe he could drive fine after drinking.
Here, this took about 3min to find. He didn't even fire a shot. Granted he was publicly drunk, but I think you can get the picture.
http://www.timesleader.com/news/loc...nken-man-threatens-people-with-gun&source=RSS
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CowboyKen
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Prosecution for what offense(s)?
Be safe.
ClayCow, Clearly you have stated your opinion, several times. You were asked if you could back up your opinion with at least one fact. Instead you have restated that opinion.
Thank you for that.
Does anyone else have a FACT that they can provide to support ClayCow's opinion, or one along those lines?
Ken
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