Traveling to NH, considering bringing my M&P, a few questions.

[HeresMyMind]

I am planning a motorcycle ride up to Mount Washington in the next 2 months. I am from CT and have both a CT and Utah permit.

I noticed the laws in NH state that it cant be loaded on your person for non-permit holders, but it doesn't differentiate between non-permit or non-NH-permit. Also since I am on a motorcycle I won't have truck space to lock a gun or magazine.

Does anyone know if they recognize the Utah permit as a concealed permit? I know they don't recognize the CT permit.

-B

 

[Arik]

I would call their state police or the agency issuing permits

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[samandglove1]

northeastshooters.com is the local firearms forum in New England. You can search for the relevant info in their gun laws section. Enjoy your trip.

 

[H Richard]

Check out Handgunlaw.us. Looks like NH does not honor CT, but will honor UT. Check out the specifics.

 

[Squarebutt]

What about going through Mass.? They don't recognize either CT or UT (or anybody else's). Also possession of any mag with a capacity of more than 10 is a felony in MA. It doesn't have to be loaded or in the gun.
Your best bet is to put it unloaded in a locked case in a saddle bag with some clothes on top. Don't speed and don't stop for shopping or lunch in MA.

 

[chuckie]

What about going through Mass.? They don't recognize either CT or UT (or anybody else's). Also possession of any mag with a capacity of more than 10 is a felony in MA. It doesn't have to be loaded or in the gun.
Your best bet is to put it unloaded in a locked case in a saddle bag with some clothes on top. Don't speed and don't stop for shopping or lunch in MA.

Good advice.

 

[Mr.Harry]

Ditto in the last post. I live in the beautiful state of NH, but grew up in the abysmal pit o hell Mass. However, you CAN travel through mass, with your firearms appropriately stowed to their specs, without breaking any of their laws or needing an FID. Provided you can show you're destination is HERE. I, as a NH resident, could travel through mass on, say, my way to Logan airport without an FID or CC permit for a handgun I might have in my possession, provided it was stowed correctly, and I could prove I was just transiting their state to access the airport.

 

[Doug M.]

Why would you not already have the NH, MA, and ME permits living so close to those states? I used to have MA, and still have NH, CT and ME, even though under LEOSA I don't need them, and even though I am on the other side of the country. I went to CT just for a weekend last year to attend a social gathering, and would love to go back to ME.

(BTW, for those who pointed out the 10 round silliness, I think CT has it too.)

 

[bigwheelzip]

Is legal open-carry a possibility for the states you traverse?

 

[HeresMyMind]

Good advice.

I know I can travel through the state of Mass as long as my final destination is not in Mass. I do have to conform to their laws as well. so I looked up how to transport through there, I was curious about whats allowed when it comes to CARRYING in NH.

-B

 

[FlyFish]

As you know, NH does not recognize your CT license. NH does recognize a UT license, but only for UT residents, so your non-resident UT license is also not valid here. With your current licensing situation, it will not be legal for you to carry your loaded handgun concealed, but open carry would be legal. Note that in NH transportation of a loaded handgun in a vehicle is considered "concealed" carry even if it is in plain view - I'm not clear on how that applies to motorcycles. Carrying an unloaded handgun in a vehicle would be OK. According to a recent NH Supreme Court ruling, a fully loaded magazine can be carried with an unloaded handgun, even in a vehicle, and, as long as it is not actually inserted into the gun, the gun is considered unloaded.

As you know, the FOPA protects you while traveling through the People's Republic of Massachusetts as long as you follow all the FOPA rules, but my understanding is that it will not cover possession of a magazine over 10 rounds, which is illegal in the Worker's Paradise. Like Mr.Harry, I got out of there years ago and it was the best decision I ever made. My only regret is that I didn't escape sooner.

 

[NYlakesider]

As you know, NH does not recognize your CT license. NH does recognize a UT license, but only for UT residents, so your non-resident UT license is also not valid here. With your current licensing situation, it will not be legal for you to carry your loaded handgun concealed, but open carry would be legal. Note that in NH transportation of a loaded handgun in a vehicle is considered "concealed" carry even if it is in plain view - I'm not clear on how that applies to motorcycles. Carrying an unloaded handgun in a vehicle would be OK. According to a recent NH Supreme Court ruling, a fully loaded magazine can be carried with an unloaded handgun, even in a vehicle, and, as long as it is not actually inserted into the gun, the gun is considered unloaded.

As you know, the FOPA protects you while traveling through the People's Republic of Massachusetts as long as you follow all the FOPA rules, but my understanding is that it will not cover possession of a magazine over 10 rounds, which is illegal in the Worker's Paradise. Like Mr.Harry, I got out of there years ago and it was the best decision I ever made. My only regret is that I didn't escape sooner.

Been reading this with interest. We are going to go to NH (from NY) one of these days to go to the Manchester firing line LLC to have some fun.

Fire full auto guns and the wife wants to try out a few different guns looking to upgrade her CCW (we cannot do this in NY)

None of my permits NY, Florida Utah are valid I know that, I know the federal statute your not supposed to stop but go through a state will not cover me as we are going to be there a few hours.

My unloaded locked case gun in the trunk, ammo in separate locked case will it cause me a problem.

 

[FlyFish]

I'm not sure if you're asking about NH or the rules that apply to the FOPA (for travel through MA and CT? - you can do whatever you want in VT). I don't know all of the FOPA requirements, but they should be easy enough to find. The only license needed in NH is for carrying a concealed loaded firearm. Unlicensed non-residents may possess firearms and ammo, openly carry loaded firearms, and carry concealed UNloaded firearms. I'll just mention again that carry of a loaded firearm in a vehicle is considered "concealed" and therefore subject to the concealed carry laws even if the firearm is plainly visible.

Based on your plans, you should be fine here as long as you don't carry any loaded guns concealed. Have a fun time at MFL, it's a great place, as is the rest of our beautiful state.

 

[NYlakesider]

I'm not sure if you're asking about NH or the rules that apply to the FOPA (for travel through MA and CT? - you can do whatever you want in VT). I don't know all of the FOPA requirements, but they should be easy enough to find. The only license needed in NH is for carrying a concealed loaded firearm. Unlicensed non-residents may possess firearms and ammo, openly carry loaded firearms, and carry concealed UNloaded firearms. I'll just mention again that carry of a loaded firearm in a vehicle is considered "concealed" and therefore subject to the concealed carry laws even if the firearm is plainly visible.

Based on your plans, you should be fine here as long as you don't carry any loaded guns concealed. Have a fun time at MFL, it's a great place, as is the rest of our beautiful state.

Thank you, I will go with the bolded above for the short time I will be in your great state. I really do not like open carry unless afield. A unloaded trunk carry will suffice for a couple hours of road time! I would think we will be quite safe at that range!

 

[FlyFish]

Ah! I should have seen from your location that you would likely not be traveling through MA or CT. If you're going to be here long enough, a short detour a half hour or so north to the town of Hooksett would allow you to visit a couple of very nice gun shops - Reilly's and Shooters Outpost (you can Google for locations). The latter is owned by Jim McCloud, who built MFL, which I understand he's recently sold to concentrate on his retail business.

 

[NYlakesider]

Ah! I should have seen from your location that you would likely not be traveling through MA or CT. If you're going to be here long enough, a short detour a half hour or so north to the town of Hooksett would allow you to visit a couple of very nice gun shops - Reilly's and Shooters Outpost (you can Google for locations). The latter is owned by Jim McCloud, who built MFL, which I understand he's recently sold to concentrate on his retail business.

I will most certainly take that under advisement. It all depends on how much time (and money) we expend at the range. Have read about the range on line and it sounds very interesting. About a 4 hour ride both ways (Northern NY) and as I like to drive top down going to pick a good day.

(FWIW I have shot a full auto Thompson and a few other guns before in Florida and I rather enjoy it.

Again thanks for your help! Dave

 

[vt_shooter]

Why would you not already have the NH, MA, and ME permits living so close to those states? I used to have MA, and still have NH, CT and ME, even though under LEOSA I don't need them, and even though I am on the other side of the country. I went to CT just for a weekend last year to attend a social gathering, and would love to go back to ME.

(BTW, for those who pointed out the 10 round silliness, I think CT has it too.)

It's about an $800 - $1,000 proposition plus 2 - 4 days time for someone from a state that neighbors Massachusetts to get a Mass. non-resident permit, then annually they have to appear in person in Chelsea to renew it, so assuming an overnight stay for travel to and from Chelsea you're looking at about $300 annual expense pause 2 days time to keep the Mass permit. That's why non-res Mass permits are so rare, or I'd have one.

 

[SPEEDGUNNER]

This thread is topical as I am setting out on a road trip from PA to ME this week. As soon as I leave the safe confines of PA I am immediately in violation no matter which direction I head. Even with PA, AZ and UT permits it is still an impossibility to travel legally. I can't very well lock anything in the trunk as I have a pickup truck. I also noticed some mag capacity restrictions, does that mean a 1911 is preferred over a SIG 226? How about JHP ammo?

Any suggestions other than a big knife? No gun in the truck makes me feel naked.

 

[FlyFish]

Well, FOPA will at least allow you to transport the gun through the intervening states, though admittedly in a condition that'll provide no protection while you're there. In NH you can't transport it loaded but you'd be legal if you had the unloaded gun with a loaded magazine nearby, and we're a small state so you don't need to spend much time passing through here on your way to Maine (though I hope you will, you'd be welcome). Once you get to Maine, under the new law passed just last year, you're good to go, as you probably know.