Trigger pull modification legal issues

It was way more than a "discussion of the trigger." It was the crux of the matter. Because the too-light trigger was tripped unintentionally, the appellate court held that it was reckless to point it at a man he had not yet decided to shoot.

The unintentional discharge was the truth as the defendant, Magliato, perceived it. For him to say he had fired deliberately would have required him to commit the felony of perjury. For his attorney to put him on the stand to say that, would have required the attorney to commit the crime of subornation of perjury. No honest lawyer who wanted to continue practicing law would do that.

This illustrates my point, claiming the shot was a AD/ND is the issue
I'm not saying it won't be brought up I just don't see it being a real issue in a legit intentional shooting
I don't care what your carry it can be made to sound evil or over the top to a uninformed jury
 
I, like most here, do respect Mr. Ayoob for his experience and efforts to support the Second Amendment and also thank him for his contributions to this forum and its lively discussions. So nothing I say is intended as a personal attack or intended in any way to disparage Mr. Ayoob's professional reputation.

Just as there are nuances in the mechanics of different firearms, the law is very nuanced as well. From reading the actual court opinion, which I have included at the bottom of this post, there is an argument that Magliato actually benefited from a lightened trigger under the circumstances. Assuming, as Mr. Ayoob has stated earlier, a claim of self defense would have forced Magliato to commit perjury, then the facts did not support an actual valid self defense claim. If there were no facts to support a valid self defense claim then Magliato was not justified in deliberately shooting the deceased. Rather as Magliato claimed, the facts appear to support, and the experts testified, the lightened trigger caused the weapon to fire accidentally after Magliato pointed the firearm from a distance of 45 feet and cocked the weapon when the court found he was otherwise unjustified in doing so. The jury appear to have believed this is what happened when rendering a verdict of guilty on a charge based on recklessness rather than intent.

On appeal the court discussed the lightened trigger in the context of reducing the guilty charge from 'under circumstances evincing a "depraved indifference to human life" recklessly engaged in conduct which created a grave risk of death to another person and thereby caused his death' to a lesser charge of manslaughter in the second degree. In essence Magliato created the situation by not following the basic rules of gun ownership and civilian self defense that everyone on this forum are well aware of;

1) Never point a weapon at anything you do not intend to shoot.
2) Do not place your finger on the trigger until you are ready to shoot.
3) If you are involved in a shooting, be the first to alert the authorities.
4) Be aware of the specific state, city and applicable laws of self defense. [New York had a duty to retreat provision for any self defense discussion.]

Caveat - This discussion is purely for civilian self defense situations and not to be confused with Law Enforcement as Law Enforcement operate under different circumstances.

Magliato erred by violating every one of these rules in addition to other questionable behavior, and ended up accidentally shooting someone he was not legally justified in shooting. Despite these facts the Appeals court discussed the lightened trigger in its decision to reduce the severity of his conviction rather than enhance the severity.

494 N.Y.S.2d 307

110 A.D.2d 266

The PEOPLE of the State of New York, Respondent,
v.
Frank MAGLIATO, Defendant-Appellant.

Supreme Court, Appellate Division,
First Department.

Oct. 10, 1985.
Leon Polsky, New York City, for defendant-appellant.

Arthur G. Weinstein, New York City, of counsel (Mark Dwyer, New York City, with him on brief, Robert M. Morgenthau, New York City) for respondent.

Before MURPHY, P.J., and SANDLER, ASCH, BLOOM and ELLERIN, JJ.

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BLOOM, Justice:

The issue before us is whether the evidence adduced at the trial warranted a jury finding that defendant, under circumstances evincing a "depraved indifference to human life" recklessly engaged in conduct which created a grave risk of death to another person and thereby caused his death (Penal Law, Section 125.25, subd. 2). We hold that it did not. Accordingly, we reduce the conviction to that of manslaughter in the second degree, vacate the sentence imposed and remand for resentence.

The circumstances leading to the tragedy were relatively simple. On August 6, 1983, the day following Labor Day Donald Schneider, a New Jersey resident, decided to mark the summer's end with a trip to Washington Square Park. Together with his friend Anthony Giani, the deceased, they drove to the park. After a short stay, they started home. As they proceeded west on Houston Street, a red Ferrari driven by Frank Magliato, the defendant, came on the scene. Apparently, the station wagon driven by Schneider clipped the rear of the Ferrari. Whatever the reason, Schneider did not stop. Defendant followed the station wagon until it stopped for a traffic light behind a truck. Defendant got out of his car. As he did so, Giani emerged from the station wagon carrying a nightstick. Initially, both men stood by their vehicles, facing each other and hurling epithets. Giani then started toward defendant. Uttering some of the choicest profanities, he threatened to kill defendant and directed him to "get out of here". Magliato returned to his car. In the interim the light had changed and Schneider drove off to find a parking spot, leaving Giani behind. Defendant followed the station wagon. His passenger, Edward Klaris, recorded its vehicle registration number. After Schneider had parked his vehicle at West Broadway and Broome Street, defendant drove past it and continued on toward Spring Street where he spied Giani, who, apparently, was searching for Schneider. Defendant drove his car past Giani, barely missing him.

Defendant then went looking for a police officer. Failing to find one, he drove to his home, parked the car and went to his apartment, leaving Klaris in the vehicle. He returned shortly. Now, however, he was wearing a holstered gun.

Magliato drove back to where the Schneider vehicle was parked and stopped across the street, near a phone booth. While Klaris called 911, defendant left his car and started toward the station wagon, again shouting profanities. Giani emerged from the station wagon, holding the nightstick in a threatening position. According to the prosecution, the two men faced each other across a distance of some forty five feet. Suddenly, defendant cocked his weapon and assumed a firing position, crouching with both feet planted apart and arms outstretched. The gun in his hand, he took deliberate aim and fired at Giani striking him in the forehead and causing such massive brain damage that he died two days later.

The defense version differs somewhat. Defendant did not dispute that he drew his weapon and cocked it. However, he contended that his weapon could fire under the slightest pressure and that immediately prior to the firing of the weapon, a car passed close to Giani, brushing him back. This incident so unnerved defendant that he accidentally exerted pressure on the trigger sufficient to discharge the weapon.

Immediately after shooting Giani, defendant walked back to his Ferrari and, together with Klaris, drove the car to a garage across the street from his Mercer Street apartment and so positioned it as to secrete it.

A day or two later the police located Klaris through the 911 phone call which he was in the process of making at the time of the shooting. Initially, he refused to cooperate. However, after the police had left he called defendant and informed him that he was ready to tell the police "the whole truth". Defendant then consulted an attorney and six days after the shooting surrendered to the police. His attorney, who accompanied him, turned two guns, both

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owned by defendant, over to the police. A ballistics test indicated that the bullet which had killed Giani had been fired from one of them, a Colt .38 Detective Special.
I
Defendant was indicted in a two-count indictment charging intentional homicide (Penal Law, Section 125.25, subd. 1) and "depraved indifference" murder (Penal Law Section 125.25, subd. 2). At the conclusion of the evidence, the Trial Court submitted both counts to the jury. It also submitted manslaughter in the first degree with respect to the count charging intentional murder, and manslaughter in the second degree and criminally negligent homicide with respect to the depraved indifference count, as lesser included counts. In each instance, the charge correctly noted that the lesser included counts were not to be considered by the jury unless it first acquitted on the higher count.

Despite the trial court's efforts to clarify the relative seriousness of the respective crimes charged, a note sent to the court by the jury reflected some confusion. It read: "We the jury wish to know if the counts are presented in descending order of seriousness". However, they received no enlightment from the Court in that regard other than the statement that

" * * * the order of seriousness of the crimes is something with which you should not be concerned in my opinion, since at no time are you to consider punishment or possible punishment in your deliberations at all. It is improper for you to do that, if you are convinced beyond a reasonable doubt that the People have established the guilt of this defendant to any crime. You may find him guilty of that crime, regardless of its seriousness."

Bottomed on this supplemental instruction, the jury returned a verdict of not guilty of intentional murder and manslaughter in the first degree under the first count. It did not reach the lesser included counts under the second count, manslaughter in the second degree and criminally negligent homicide.

Technically, the supplemental instruction was correct. However, it is apparent from a letter written by one of the jurors to the trial court after the verdict had been reached that some of the jurors had been confused because they believed that the court's charge had set forth the severity of the crimes in descending order of importance. The inference to be drawn from the letter is that, had the jury realized that depraved indifference murder was murder in the second degree it would have found defendant guilty of a lesser degree of homicide. The Trial Court redacted the letter by eliminating the juror's name and forwarded redacted copies to the District Attorney's office and to defense counsel. Based in part upon that letter defense counsel moved to set aside the verdict. That motion was denied.

II
On the record before us it is clear that the jury could have found defendant guilty of either an intentional crime or a crime the central element of which was recklessness. They determined that the act which led to Giani's death was a reckless one. We do not quarrel with their holding. We note only that having determined on recklessness they correctly acquitted on the charges of intentional homicide, for the two are mutually exclusive (see People v. Ludkowitz, 266 N.Y. 233, 243, 194 N.E. 688; Darry v. People, 10 N.Y. 120).

Thus, the primary--indeed the sole--question before us is whether defendant's recklessness was such that it evinced "a depraved indifference to human life" creating "a grave risk of death to another person" and thereby caused the death of another person.

Traditionally, this "highest crime of reckless homicide" is "very similar to a former Penal Law offense classified as first degree murder ( § 1044[2] ). Each version embraces extremely dangerous and fatal conduct performed without specific homicidal intent but with a depraved kind

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of wantonness: for example, shooting into a crowd, placing a time bomb in a public place, or opening the door of the lions' cage in the zoo [citations omitted]." (Hechtman, Practice Commentary to Penal Law Section 125.25, McKinney's Penal Law, Vol. 1, p. 399). Other illustrations include the random firing of shots into a house in which several persons are present, resulting in death (People v. Jernatowski, 238 N.Y. 188, 144 N.E. 497) and the firing of a gun in a crowded bar which brought about the death of a person in the bar (People v. Register, 60 N.Y.2d 270, 469 N.Y.S.2d 599, 457 N.E.2d 704). Essential to the prosecution's case was proof that "defendant's act was imminently dangerous and presented a very high risk of death to others and that it was committed under circumstances which evidenced a wanton indifference to human life or a depravity of mind [citations omitted]". (People v. Register, supra, 60 N.Y.2d 270, 274, 469 N.Y.S.2d 270, 457 N.E.2d 704; emphasis added). To constitute depraved indifference murder, the action must rise above mere recklessness. It must be " 'so wanton, so deficient in a moral sense of concern, so devoid of regard of the life or lives of others, and so blameworthy as to warrant the same criminal liability as that which the law imposes upon a person who intentionally causes the death of another.' " (People v. Fenner, 61 N.Y.2d 971, 973, 475 N.Y.S.2d 276, 463 N.E.2d 617). Recklessness there must be, but there must be something more. There must be an unmotivated wickedness so great as to be indicative of depravity (see Simons, J., dissenting in People v. Lilly, 71 A.D.2d 393, 399, 422 N.Y.S.2d 976).
While we agree that the jury was justified in finding that defendant was guilty of reckless conduct, we cannot agree that the conduct was so gross, so wanton and so callously indifferent to human life as to constitute a depraved indifference to human life. The defendant's ballistics expert testified that the weapon with which Giani was shot was a double action revolver and could be fired in either of two ways. If the weapon were not cocked it could be fired simply by pulling the trigger. In such event a minimum of ten pounds of pressure would be necessary, first to cock the weapon and then to move the trigger forward so that the firing pin contained in the trigger mechanism would strike the bullet and set in motion its propulsion. If, however, the trigger were manually cocked, only four and one-half pounds of pressure would be needed to set the process in motion. Defendant testified that the weapon was cocked and that when Giani was brushed back by a passing car he became so rattled that he accidentally exerted the minimum pressure necessary to fire the weapon. This evidence was credited by the jury, for only by crediting it could it find recklessness rather than intent. These facts do not warrant the conclusion that defendant's action was so mindless of consequences as to constitute a depraved indifference to human life.

Nor does the presence of others nearby raise the degree of recklessness to the point where it can be construed as depraved indifference. If, as the jury obviously concluded, the actual firing of the weapon was accidental, the reckless act of defendant in placing himself in the position where this could happen did not rise to the point where it was the equivalent of murder in the second degree.

The sole remaining question is whether we have the power to modify the judgment to one of conviction for manslaughter in the second degree or whether we must remand for a new trial. Under CPL Section 470.15, subd. 2(a) we are authorized, where the offense is a lesser included offense, to modify the judgment to reduce it to one of conviction for the lesser included offense (Peo. v. Dlugash, 41 N.Y.2d 725, 737, 395 N.Y.S.2d 419, 363 N.E.2d 1155). In such event, we are required to remit with a direction that the trial court sentence the defendant accordingly. (CPL Section 470.20, subd. 4).

Accordingly, the judgment of the Supreme Court, New York County (Thomas R. Sullivan, J.) rendered November 1, 1984, convicting defendant of murder in the second

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degree is modified on the law (and the facts), to reduce the conviction to manslaughter in the second degree and the matter is remanded to the Supreme Court, New York County, for resentence.
Judgment, Supreme Court, New York County (Thomas Sullivan, J.), rendered on November 1, 1984, modified, on the law, and the facts, to reduce the conviction to manslaughter in the second degree and the matter remanded to the Supreme Court, New York County, for resentence.

All concur except MURPHY, P.J., and ASCH, J., who dissent in an opinion by ASCH, J.

ASCH, Justice (dissenting):

The majority asserts that defendant's testimony, "credited by the jury," that he "accidentally ... exerted the minimum pressure necessary to fire the weapon," does not warrant the conclusion that his action was so mindless of consequences as to constitute a depraved indifference to human life. I disagree and would affirm.

When defendant went into a shooter's crouch, cocked and aimed the gun at Giani's head, he was acting in such a reckless manner as to evidence a depraved indifference to life. Defendant's own witnesses testified that once the Colt .38 was cocked, even the slightest movement over a distance as short of .012 inch would cause the gun to fire. The owner's manual for this gun warns that cocking the gun is extremely dangerous since it can easily be accidentally discharged. Defendant's experts also testified that they had witnessed or investigated numerous incidents where an accidental application of a very light touch discharged this gun. One of the witnesses even testified that this risk is so serious that numerous law-enforcement agencies, including the New York City Police Department and the Secret Service, do not allow officers to fire in this fashion.

The evidence before the jury showed that defendant was aware of the substantial and unjustifiable risk in cocking his gun and consciously disregarded that risk (Penal Law § 15.05[3] ). He had access to the owner's manual and underwent individual training, although brief, from a professional instructor in handling, firing and safety. He had practiced at least half a dozen times on the firing range with the same Colt .38, usually with the weapon cocked. Thus, defendant must have been aware that when he cocked and aimed the gun, there was a grave risk of the gun discharging with the slightest pressure exerted on its hair trigger. He consciously disregarded that grave risk. This conduct evinced a depraved indifference to human life.

"Depraved mind murder resembles manslaughter in the second degree (a reckless killing which includes the requirement that defendant disregard a substantial risk [Penal Law, § 125.15, subd 1; § 15.05, subd 3] ), but the depraved mind murder statute requires in addition not only that the conduct which results in death present a grave risk of death but that it also occur 'nder circumstances evincing a depraved indifference to human life.' This additional requirement refers to neither the mens rea nor the actusreus. If it states an element of the crime at all, it is not an element in the traditional sense but rather a definition of the factual setting in which the risk creating conduct must occur...." (People v. Register, 60 N.Y.2d 270, 276, 469 N.Y.S.2d 599, 457 N.E.2d 704).

It was well within the jury's province to find a depraved indifference to human life in the factual setting presented.

After the auto accident, defendant followed the other auto and got out of his car with a tennis racket. Upon being confronted with a night stick carried by Giani, defendant retreated. A short time later, defendant drove his car directly at Giani. Thereafter, defendant had more than enough time to calm down and call the police from his apartment. Instead, he took a loaded gun from home and went back to the scene of the altercation. Defendant not only cocked the gun, but assumed

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a shooter's stance and took deliberate aim at Giani. He knew that it took only the "slightest" force, whether done intentionally or accidentally, to fire that gun. Defendant's conduct after the shooting also showed his depraved indifference to human life. He left Giani dying in the street, and deliberately interrupted a 911 call which could have brought medical aid to the victim.
"Whether the risk of defendant's conduct was of the type condemned by the Penal Law was to be decided by the trier of the facts aided by appropriate instructions (People v. Licitra, 47 NY2d 554, [419 N.Y.S.2d 461, 393 N.E.2d 456], citing People v. Haney, 30 NY2d 328 [333 N.Y.S.2d 403, 284 N.E.2d 564]; People v. Angelo, 246 NY 451 ). The jury's proper role, as the Appellate Division found, was to make a qualitative judgment whether defendant's act was of such gravity that it placed the crime upon the same level as the taking of life by premeditated design (citation omitted). It had to determine from the evidence if defendant's conduct, though reckless, was equal in blame-worthiness to intentional murder." (People v. Register, supra, at 274-5, 469 N.Y.S.2d 599, 457 N.E.2d 704).

The evidence presented supported the verdict, and the contrary finding by the majority herein therefore usurps "[t]he jury's proper role."

Finally, the "inference" drawn by the majority from a post-trial letter received from a juror, that the jury would have found defendant guilty of a lesser degree of homicide had they realized that depraved indifference murder was murder in the second degree, is unwarranted. Before the verdict, the jury asked if the counts were "presented in descending order of seriousness." The Court repeated that manslaughter was a lesser included offense of murder and cautioned the jury that it should not consider punishment or possible punishment in its deliberations. According to the letter referred to by the majority, the jurors thereafter elected to announce the "compromise" verdict, even though by then they fully understood that they earlier had been "laboring under a false assumption."

In any event, it is inappropriate for this Court to speculate on what happened during deliberations. Statements or testimony by jurors may not be used to impeach a verdict that has been solemnly made and publicly returned in court (see People v. De Lucia, 15 N.Y.2d 294, 258 N.Y.S.2d 377, 206 N.E.2d 324, cert. den. 382 U.S. 821, 86 S.Ct. 50, 15 L.Ed.2d 67, on rearg 20 N.Y.2d 275, 282 N.Y.S.2d 526, 229 N.E.2d 211; Dalrymple v. Williams, 63 NY 361; People v. Foti, 99 A.D.2d 517, 470 N.Y.S.2d 689).
 
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wsr, I'm afraid a lighter-than-duty-spec trigger also leaves you open to false accusations of indefensible negligent discharge, for reasons explained in depth here: http://smith-wessonforum.com/concea...facts-about-light-trigger-pull-liability.html

Unless I'm mistaken every case you cite in that article involve the shooter claiming a ND/AD of some sort which of course the prosecutor took advantage of (rightfully so)
I'm not saying they won't bring it up I just don't see the evidence that it's a bigger problem than any other false theory the prosecutor would bring up in a legitimate intentional SD shooting
 
This occurred to be earlier today in a different thread about a heavy DA trigger pull. In a stressful, heat of the moment, life or death gun in hand situation, I would expect adrenalin to make the trigger pull feel effortless.
Only one who has actually been in that situation would be able to confirm but it's not unheard of to have people lift cars off accident victims so it does seem reasonable to me.

I would think a DA and adrenalin would equal a pulled shot maybe a complete miss .. though there are some DA's not as heavy as others .. My Beretta PX4 9mm sub compact a DA/SA was probably 10/6 when new .. I've got around 600 rounds through it now and is closer to 8/5 now and completely stock ..

Its pretty easy to pull a shot in DA with it if your concentration is off a little and under pressure in a SD situation think it would be even easier to pull a shot .. one of the reasons I started carrying a 40c that always has the same trigger pull ..
 
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Here's a link to an article that tries to clarify ND/AD. Does it add to this general discussion? Is it accurate?

The Difference Between an "AD" and an "ND" | The Martialist

[At the risk of being challenged by one of the posters in this thread, I will re-state that the California gun roster test includes a drop test and a reliability test. I don't live in California but bought a CA compliant version for just those reasons. I have absolutely no problem with the stock SD trigger pull.]

Let me add that I also own and shoot, for fun, a 1911. I carried one in the Navy and bought one just for nostalgia.

Check out this site: Tussey Custom - Custom pistols with distinctive appearance and innovative design!
 
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Southcoast, what's missing from the appellate court's appraisal is that since his attorney had leaded heavily on the "it was an accident" defense, the trial judge refused to let the jury hear the evidence that WOULD have shown the jury he was justified in pointing his gun at the deceased. Judge Sullivan quite sternly told the defense attorney that self-defense was a defense reserved for intentional acts, and he wouldn't allow a word of it.

After the verdict, once the jury learned what had been withheld from them, several of them petitioned the court system to give Magliato a new trial.

As you say, Southcoast, the law is nuanced.

Unquestionably, if the gun had not been cocked to "hair trigger" status, and Magliato had intentionally shot the man coming at him from 32 feet away with an upraised club, all of us who took part in the defense are convinced that it probably would never have even gone to trial.
 
Southcoast, what's missing from the appellate court's appraisal is that since his attorney had leaded heavily on the "it was an accident" defense, the trial judge refused to let the jury hear the evidence that WOULD have shown the jury he was justified in pointing his gun at the deceased. Judge Sullivan quite sternly told the defense attorney that self-defense was a defense reserved for intentional acts, and he wouldn't allow a word of it.

After the verdict, once the jury learned what had been withheld from them, several of them petitioned the court system to give Magliato a new trial.

As you say, Southcoast, the law is nuanced.

Unquestionably, if the gun had not been cocked to "hair trigger" status, and Magliato had intentionally shot the man coming at him from 32 feet away with an upraised club, all of us who took part in the defense are convinced that it probably would never have even gone to trial.



I am pasting the actual text of the second court of appeals decision below which discusses the "defense of justification" under the applicable New York Penal Code.

Basically Magliato wanted to have his cake and eat it too. "Nevertheless, defendant sought to argue that he was justified in drawing the weapon, but not in firing it. The court informed defense counsel that if he made such an argument, the justification defense would be charged." He was not prevented from making the argument, but rather the argument would open the door to potentially damaging consequences as the New York "duty to retreat" provision of the penal code would have been introduced had he made the argument. As you stated earlier, Magliato could not establish a factual basis for a claim of valid self defense without committing perjury. Yet, he wanted to make a legal argument to have the court apply a self defense analysis for pulling the gun, but not apply the same standard for firing it. At a minimum, a self defense claim under the New York Penal Code required an affirmative defense that the act in question was committed intentionally under justifiable circumstances. Further the New York Penal Code also contained a duty to retreat provision, which would have most likely negated a self defense claim had his legal team made the argument. For Magliato to claim he accidentally shot the deceased as he was attempting to retreat would also cause him to commit perjury. With all this, Magliato's legal team made a calculated decision not to pursue a self defense claim. The court did not prevent them from making the claim.














505 N.Y.S.2d 836

68 N.Y.2d 24, 496 N.E.2d 856

The PEOPLE of the State of New York, Respondent,
v.
Frank MAGLIATO, Appellant.

Court of Appeals of New York.

July 8, 1986.
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Leon B. Polsky, New York City, for appellant.

Robert M. Morgenthau, Dist. Atty. (Arthur G. Weinstein and Mark Dwyer, New York City, of counsel), for respondent.

OPINION OF THE COURT
HANCOCK, Judge.

Conduct intended merely to scare off an assailant or to keep him at bay may place the assailant in such imminent danger of grave bodily injury or death that the conduct, without more, constitutes the "use of deadly physical force" to which the defense of justification applies (see, Penal Law § 10.00[11]; § 35.15). Where such conduct is the basis of a criminal charge and the defendant argues that it was justified by the menacing actions and threats of the assailant, the court must instruct the jury on the elements of the defense of justification set forth in Penal Law § 35.15.

I
Defendant was convicted in a jury trial of depraved indifference murder (Penal Law § 125.25[2] ) for the shooting death of one Giani. The shooting was the culmination of a series of events which began when the station wagon in which Giani was a passenger rammed defendant's Ferrari

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and sped away. The jury acquitted defendant of intentional homicide (Penal Law § 125.25[1] ) and the lesser included offense of manslaughter in the first degree (Penal Law § 125.20), and the Appellate Division reduced the depraved indifference conviction to manslaughter, second degree (Penal Law § 125.15[1] ). 110 A.D.2d 266, 494 N.Y.S.2d 307. 1 On this appeal, defendant argues that his allegedly protective conduct in drawing and aiming a loaded and cocked weapon at Giani--but not firing it intentionally--is not governed by the law of justification for the use of deadly physical force (Penal Law § 35.15[2] ). He sought to argue to the jury that his actions in preparing to shoot were a reasoned response to Giani's threatening conduct, and he contends that the court should have permitted him to make such argument without charging the jury on the elements of the statutory defense including, specifically, the duty to retreat (Penal Law § 35.15[2][a] ). For reasons which will appear, we disagree with these contentions. There should be an affirmance.
II
The relevant facts, as related by defendant at trial, are these. On September 6, 1983 defendant's leased Ferrari was struck in the rear while stopped at the intersection of Houston and Wooster Streets in Manhattan in preparation for making a left hand turn. The car which struck him, a Chevrolet station wagon, pulled around and drove off. Defendant, angered, gave chase and overtook the station wagon at the corner of Spring and Thompson where it was blocked by a van. As defendant started to get out of the car, holding a tennis racket given him by his passenger Klaris, Giani stepped out of the station wagon. He was brandishing a "very large black club"--holding it over his head and shaking it. Defendant described him as "ranting and raving and screaming, 'I'm going to kill you, get back in the car, I'm going to kill you, you mother f--, get in the car'. He just went on and on. He was wild, he was crazed."

Defendant reentered his car and pulled around Giani to follow the station wagon. With the Ferrari in pursuit, the station wagon proceeded on an irregular course and returned to Spring Street where Giani was still standing. It passed Giani without stopping and, as defendant drove by, Giani moved to the middle of the street shaking the club, yelling and cursing. Defendant continued behind the station wagon narrowly missing Giani. The station wagon drove off leaving Giani in the street.

Defendant and Klaris, driving about the area in search of a police officer, stopped at defendant's apartment on Mercer Street where defendant went inside to pick up his wallet, car registration and other papers. Upon emerging from his apartment, defendant carried a holstered gun for which he had a permit. En route to the police station to report the incident, defendant saw the station wagon parked on Broome Street between Wooster and West Broadway and stopped to call the police from a telephone booth. As defendant started to cross Broome Street, he heard a shout and saw Giani pulling the club out of the station wagon. Defendant described what happened as Giani started to cross the street in his direction:

"As he was coming at me--I just said 'Oh, my God', and drew my gun and cocked it and held it in front of me.

"I put the hammer back [and] held the gun like this [with two hands clasped together and arms extended] in front of me."

A car passed by Giani, backing him toward the curb. As it did so, the pistol fired. The bullet struck Giani between the eyes. Defendant stated he did not remember pulling the trigger. He panicked, and he and Klaris drove off. Giani died two days later of massive brain damage.

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At trial, defendant did not dispute that he drew his weapon and cocked it. However, he contended that his pistol had a hair trigger and that he accidentally exerted enough pressure to fire it. The defense adduced expert testimony describing the operation of a colt .38 pistol such as defendant's. In "single action" position, the shooter manually cocks the hammer, as defendant did here. Only 4 1/2 pounds of pressure are required to move the trigger the remaining .012 to .015 inch. A second defense expert characterized defendant's pistol as having a "hair trigger" in such "single action" position, explaining that the "slightest movement", "extremely light" pressure would cause the weapon to discharge.

At the charging conference, defense counsel stated that he "definitely" did not want the court to charge on the defense of justification under Penal Law § 35.15. Nevertheless, defendant sought to argue that he was justified in drawing the weapon, but not in firing it. The court informed defense counsel that if he made such an argument, the justification defense would be charged.

Defendant argued, in his summation, that the shooting was a tragic accident, but he made no specific argument that the weapon was drawn in self-defense. Accordingly, the People, in their summation, did not argue duty to retreat, and the court did not give a charge on the statutory defense of justification.

III
On this appeal defendant argues that, because he claimed the discharge of his pistol was accidental, and did not claim that he fired it in self-defense, the justification defense is inapplicable. He maintains that justification does not apply to an unintentional crime, and that drawing his pistol did not constitute a "use of deadly physical force" within the meaning of Penal Law § 35.15. These arguments are without merit.

Defendant's contention that the law of justification has no bearing on his conduct, solely because the discharge of his pistol was accidental, requires little comment. It is settled that the defense of justification applies fully to a defendant's risk-creating conduct, even though it had unintended consequences (see, People v. McManus, 67 N.Y.2d 541, 505 N.Y.S.2d 43, 496 N.E.2d 202; People v. Huntley, 59 N.Y.2d 868, 465 N.Y.S.2d 929, 452 N.E.2d 1257). That a defendant causes injury or death, not deliberately, but recklessly or negligently, does not remove his conduct from the scope of Penal Law article 35. As we explained in People v. McManus, supra, 67 N.Y.2d at p. 547, 505 N.Y.S.2d 43, 496 N.E.2d 202), "there is no basis for limiting the application of the defense of justification to any particular mens rea or to any particular crime involving the use of force." Hence, in a prosecution for any "crime involving the use of force, a charge on justification is warranted whenever there is evidence to support it." (Id., at p. 549, 505 N.Y.S.2d 43, 496 N.E.2d 202.) Indeed, in People v. Huntley (supra) we specifically held the defense applicable to a charge of reckless homicide (Penal Law § 125.15[1] ), the very crime at issue here (see also, People v. Torre, 42 N.Y.2d 1036, 399 N.Y.S.2d 203, 369 N.E.2d 759; People v. Rodwell, 100 A.D.2d 772, 474 N.Y.S.2d 45).

Nor, under these circumstances, can we accept defendant's contention that his allegedly defensive drawing of the pistol did not constitute the "use of deadly physical force" and, therefore, that his actions are not governed by Penal Law § 35.15(2). 2 "Deadly physical force" is defined in Penal

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Law § 10.00(11) as that which is "readily capable of causing death or other serious physical injury" (emphasis added). That definition, adopted primarily for the statutory defense of justification (see, Hechtman, Practice Commentaries, McKinney's Cons.Laws of N.Y., Book 39, Penal Law § 10.00, p. 21), hinges on the nature of the risk created--i.e., its imminence or immediac as well as its gravity. The risk of serious injury or death and the capacity presently to inflict the same are central to the definition, not the consequence of defendant's conduct or what he intended.
Viewing the evidence in the light most favorable to the defendant (see, People v. Torre, 42 N.Y.2d 1036 1037, 399 N.Y.S.2d 203, 369 N.E.2d 759, supra ), his use of the pistol to "scare off" Giani unquestionably placed Giani in the imminent risk of grave danger and, therefore, constituted the "use of deadly physical force." According to the testimony of defendant's own experts, the pistol, in a cocked position, was deadly. It was "extremely dangerous" with a "hair trigger". The pistol "could easily be accidentally discharged" with the "slightest movement" or the application of "extremely light" pressure. Clearly, it was "readily capable" of causing death or physical injury within the meaning of Penal Law § 10.00(11).

Moreover, defendant's conduct in drawing the pistol, cocking it, holding it with two hands and arms extended, and aiming it at Giani as he was approaching cannot, contrary to defendant's contention, be deemed a mere display, threat, or preparation for the use of deadly physical force. It was the actual "use" of such force under any meaningful sense of the word. It would be illogical to restrict the meaning of the "use of deadly physical force" to the deliberate discharge of a weapon or the intentional infliction of bodily injury, and to characterize as mere "preparation" all other conduct with a deadly instrumentality which falls short of that. The mere display or brandishing of a pistol may, perhaps, create an insufficiently imminent threat to life to be considered the "use" of deadly physical force. But, leveling a loaded pistol, with the cocked hammer set to release under the slightest pressure, and pointing it at another approaching from across the street is conduct well beyond a warning or preparation for a deadly act. Such conduct, itself, constitutes a deadly act regardless of how or why the final bit of pressure is applied. Indeed, it creates a danger so nearly approximating the discharge of a pistol as to be reasonably deemed its equivalent for the purpose of the law of justification.

Hence, in People v. Huntley (supra), where the defendant was charged with committing murder with a knife, we held the defense of justification to be available even though defendant claimed that the stabbing was accidental. We agreed with the Appellate Division that Penal Law § 35.15 was applicable to the defendant's use of deadly physical force, whether or not the stabbing was deliberate and whether or not he intended the ultimate consequences of his conduct. Similarly, in People v. McManus (supra), we held the defense of justification available to a defendant who used a firearm to "scare off" a group of individuals. The law of justification for the use of deadly physical force was applicable to defendant's conduct, even though he claimed that his shooting one of the group was an unintended consequence.

Finally, there is no justification under the law for the use of deadly physical force in self-defense except that contained within the statutory defense in Penal Law § 35.15(2). The statute unambiguously states that "[a] person may not use deadly physical force upon another person * * * unless" certain specified conditions are met (emphasis added). Penal Law § 35.15 is the operative law of self-defense and there is simply no basis for justifying defendant's conduct by any other standard (see, People v. Goetz, 68 N.Y.2d 96, 506 N.Y.S.2d 18, 497 N.E.2d 41; People v. Dingley, 42 N.Y.2d 888, 397 N.Y.S.2d 789, 366 N.E.2d 877).

Accordingly, the order of the Appellate Division should be affirmed.

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WACHTLER, C.J., and MEYER, SIMONS, KAYE and ALEXANDER, JJ., concur.

TITONE, J., taking no part.

Order affirmed.

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1 We dismissed the People's appeal (67 N.Y.2d 829, 501 N.Y.S.2d 658, 492 N.E.2d 786) because the Appellate Division's determination was based in part on its analysis of the facts (CPL 450.90[2][a] ). Defendant was granted leave to appeal from the reduced conviction by a Judge of this court (67 N.Y.2d 653, 490 N.E.2d 566).

2 Penal Law § 35.15(2) provides in pertinent part, as follows:

"A person may not use deadly physical force upon another person under circumstances specified in subdivision one unless:

"(a) He reasonably believes that such other person is using or about to use deadly physical force. Even in such case, however, the actor may not use deadly physical force if he knows that he can with complete safety as to himself and others avoid the necessity of so doing by retreating." (Emphasis added.)

 
Finally, to refocus on the OP's original statement, there was no testimony that Magliato actually modified his trigger or gun . The trigger discussion only pertains to cocking the specific stock weapon from double action into single action mode rather than modifying the weapon. We can all agree there is a clear distinction.
 
Finally, to refocus on the OP's original statement, there was no testimony that Magliato actually modified his trigger or gun . The trigger discussion only pertains to cocking the specific stock weapon from double action into single action mode rather than modifying the weapon. We can all agree there is a clear distinction.

The only distinction is how the trigger got too light. Long before Magliato, police departments were rendering their service revolvers double action only to keep this from happening. It's why today there are few if any LE agencies which expressly allow their officers to carry semiauto pistols with trigger pulls lighter than manufacturer's recommendation for duty use.

Your comment also does not address the fact that the jury was not allowed to hear that the man coming at Magliato with the upraised club was only about two seconds away from striking him at the time the .38 discharged, a fact pattern that would justify any of us in shooting that offender if the shot had been intentionally discharged. Unfortunately, there is no such thing as a justifiable accident.
 
His references to actual court cases on the subject, and their ultimate findings, convinced me. Why should I spend an additional $ 100 to buy a kit to make the BG .380 have an acceptable trigger and also take a chance on losing everything I have should I ever have to use it? I have never altered any pistol I own with the exception of having the feed ramp polished, and perhaps changing the grips.
 
His references to actual court cases on the subject, and their ultimate findings, convinced me. Why should I spend an additional $ 100 to buy a kit to make the BG .380 have an acceptable trigger and also take a chance on losing everything I have should I ever have to use it? I have never altered any pistol I own with the exception of having the feed ramp polished, and perhaps changing the grips.

In the court cases he references the actual issue was a claimed AD/ND by the shooter not the light trigger in and of it's self
 
The appellate court's decision can be found here: PEOPLE v. MAGLIATO | Leagle.com .
Writing the majority opinion, in which Magliato was determined to be guilty of manslaughter but not the original much higher conviction, Justice Bloom explained, "If, however, the trigger were manually cocked, only 4½ pounds of pressure would be needed to set the process in motion. Defendant testified that the weapon was cocked and that when Giani was brushed back by a passing car he became so rattled that he accidentally exerted the minimum pressure necessary to fire the weapon. This evidence was credited by the jury, for only by crediting it could it find recklessness rather than intent."
In his dissent, Justice Asche explained why he felt pointing a light-triggered gun at a person the shooter apparently had not yet determined needed to be shot, with unintentional discharge and death resulting, constituted a depraved indifference to human life:
"The majority asserts that defendant's testimony, "credited by the jury," that he "accidentally * * * exerted the minimum pressure necessary to fire the weapon", does not warrant the conclusion that his action was so mindless of consequences as to constitute a depraved indifference to human life. I disagree and would affirm.
"When defendant went into a shooter's crouch, cocked and aimed the gun at Giani's head, he was acting in such a reckless manner as to evidence a depraved indifference to life. Defendant's own witnesses testified that once the Colt .38 was cocked, even the slightest movement over a distance as short as .012 inch would cause the gun to fire. The owner's manual for this gun warns that cocking the gun is extremely dangerous since it can easily be accidentally discharged. Defendant's experts also testified that they had witnessed or investigated numerous incidents where an accidental application of a very light touch discharged this gun. One of the witnesses even testified that this risk is so serious that numerous law enforcement agencies, including the New York City Police Department and the Secret Service, do not allow officers to fire in this fashion.
"The evidence before the jury showed that defendant was aware of the substantial and unjustifiable risk in cocking his gun and consciously disregarded that risk (Penal Law § 15.05 [3]). He had access to the owner's manual and underwent individual training, although brief, from a professional instructor in handling, firing and safety. He had practiced at least half a dozen times on the firing range with the same Colt .38, usually with the weapon cocked. Thus, defendant must have been aware that when he cocked and aimed the gun, there was a grave risk of the gun discharging with the slightest pressure exerted on its hair trigger. He consciously disregarded that grave risk. This conduct evinced a depraved indifference to human life."
 
Magliato is the only case I ever really see discussed. Is there another case out there, or are we spending all this time and energy discussing self defense with a modified trigger using a case that was tried and decided as a negligent discharge case . . . ?
 
The only distinction is how the trigger got too light. Long before Magliato, police departments were rendering their service revolvers double action only to keep this from happening. It's why today there are few if any LE agencies which expressly allow their officers to carry semiauto pistols with trigger pulls lighter than manufacturer's recommendation for duty use.

Your comment also does not address the fact that the jury was not allowed to hear that the man coming at Magliato with the upraised club was only about two seconds away from striking him at the time the .38 discharged, a fact pattern that would justify any of us in shooting that offender if the shot had been intentionally discharged. Unfortunately, there is no such thing as a justifiable accident.

I agree there is a distinction as well between civilian self defense and Law Enforcement/Duty carry, hence my caveat in post #63 limiting the discussion to civilian self defense. There are routine situations where Law Enforcement are authorized for various reasons to pull a weapon where they are not justified in firing the weapon. This caveat also distinguishes Alvarez (He was Law Enforcement not a civilian self defense situation).

Regarding the testimony, I addressed the testimony limiting factor in post #68. Prior to trial, each side was required to submit a theory of the case to the judge. This is done so that the judge would know what evidence was relevant to the prosecutor's case and the defense's case as the trial progresses. Only relevant evidence was allowed. As you stated Magliato's facts prevented a "self defense" theory, thus his team presented an accidental discharge theory of the case to the judge prior to trial. As there was no self defense claim, this is why no potential self defense evidence was allowed. If his team had decided to pursue a self defense claim, self defense evidence would have been allowed. Likewise, had his team argued self defense, evidence related to accidental discharge would have been precluded.
 
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I agree there is a distinction as well between civilian self defense and Law Enforcement/Duty carry, hence my caveat in post #63 limiting the discussion to civilian self defense. There are routine situations where Law Enforcement are authorized for various reasons to pull a weapon where they are not justified in firing the weapon. This caveat also distinguishes Alvarez (He was Law Enforcement not a civilian self defense situation).

Regarding the testimony, I addressed the testimony limiting factor in post #68. Prior to trial, each side was required to submit a theory of the case to the judge. This is done so that the judge would know what evidence was relevant to the prosecutor's case and the defense's case as the trial progresses. Only relevant evidence was allowed. As you stated Magliato's facts prevented a "self defense" theory, thus his team presented an accidental discharge theory of the case to the judge prior to trial. As there was no self defense claim, this is why no potential self defense evidence was allowed. If his team had decided to pursue a self defense claim, self defense evidence would have been allowed. Likewise, had his team argued self defense, evidence related to accidental discharge would have been precluded.

I largely agree with you, Southcoast, and have been explaining that to folks for 30 years or so. I also explained it to the lawyer who tried the case, as did the other expert for the defense, Manny Kapelsohn. However, the trial lawyer makes the decisions, and in this case, our recommendation of straight self-defense strategy was not adopted.

None of which takes away from the fact that if a too-light trigger pull and an unintended discharge had not happened, we would have had a much more clear-cut justifiable homicide, assuming an intentional double action shot.

I have to take issue with some on "police versus civilian" shootings, as related to the case under discussion. Giani had first rammed Magliato's car with his own intentionally (arguably, "assault with a deadly weapon, to wit, a motor vehicle.") Shortly thereafter he had committed a second "assault with a deadly weapon, to wit, a bludgeon" when he violently approached Magliato and his companion with a 24" police baton upraised, as his intended victims sat stopped in an open-top sports car. The shooting took place after the third assault when, again with club upraised, Giani screamed "I've been looking for you (expletive deleted)!" and lunged at Magliato.

Does anyone here seriously think this set of circumstances DOESN'T warrant an armed citizen drawing his gun in self-defense?
 
I found quite a few posts that raised issues and/or improved my knowledge. Apparently other folks were interested and contributed, 78 posts so far.

My closest distance from a shooting, that I'm aware of, is two miles. That was the Vaughn Foods beheading on Sept. 25, 2014.

Alton Nolen stabbed 54-year-old Colleen Hufford multiple times and beheaded her inside the Vaughan Foods distribution center. After attacking Hufford, Nolen is accused of stabbing 43-year-old Traci Johnson numerous times before being shot by Mark Vaughan, the former CEO of the company and a reserve sheriff's deputy.

The Vaughn company had been sold so I believe Mark Vaughn was working as an employee. While the attack was underway, Vaughn was able to retrieve a rifle from the trunk of his car and disable the murderer.

I understand that reserve officers are required to work 16 hours per month.

This came to mind because it was only recently that the killer was found competent to stand trial and a trial date has been set.

Press reports first referred to a pistol but later information seems to indicate that Vaughan got his rifle from his car.

There have been at least two home invasions in our town in the past two years and in both cases the home owner killed the intruder. In one case the shooter was pastor of a nearby church. As it turns out, my Carry License instructor said that many of his clients are churches.
 
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