All the bodacious conogonizing that goes on, right here in this very forum....well...it's just awe-inspiring. Oh, such wonders to behold. This surely must be why Algore invented the internet; I feel unworthy.
Unbelievable find! Mismarked M-64!
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Definitive Proof
Well gents, I have it. Definitive proof smuggled out of Gen. Mc Arthurs basement: The before and after photo.
Well gents, I have it. Definitive proof smuggled out of Gen. Mc Arthurs basement: The before and after photo.
Nice find indeed!
Heres a little known fact that I got from my Aunts cousin Sues half brother Larry who's step dad used to live down the road from none other than Elmer Keith.
Elmer was messing around with the use of stainless steel in S&W revolvers before it was even invented.
He was also tryng to get Smith to develop a model 64 before Smith & Wesson came out with model numbers.
Elmer used to "hide" his experimental stainless revolver by bluing it, while he did shooting experiments with it. Possibly putting a different model number on it.
Your gun looks just like the gun that my Aunts cousin Sues half brother Larry who's step dad used to live down the road from none other than Elmer Keith, drew a picture of, on his "etch-a-sketch" when we were kids.
Really!
If thats the revolver, Elmer shot numerous canalope, or Antalope at over 1,000 yards in a blinding snow storm with it on a Sunday afternoon in 1951.
You are one lucky man. Congradulations.
P.S. Can you tell us how it fell into your hands?
Heres a little known fact that I got from my Aunts cousin Sues half brother Larry who's step dad used to live down the road from none other than Elmer Keith.
Elmer was messing around with the use of stainless steel in S&W revolvers before it was even invented.
He was also tryng to get Smith to develop a model 64 before Smith & Wesson came out with model numbers.
Elmer used to "hide" his experimental stainless revolver by bluing it, while he did shooting experiments with it. Possibly putting a different model number on it.
Your gun looks just like the gun that my Aunts cousin Sues half brother Larry who's step dad used to live down the road from none other than Elmer Keith, drew a picture of, on his "etch-a-sketch" when we were kids.
Really!
If thats the revolver, Elmer shot numerous canalope, or Antalope at over 1,000 yards in a blinding snow storm with it on a Sunday afternoon in 1951.
You are one lucky man. Congradulations.
P.S. Can you tell us how it fell into your hands?
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Sgt 127
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Unbelievable...Look at what is in the Phillipine National Policemans holster that is holding up the Generals underwear...It appears to be a clone of my gun with ALL the blueing worn off! A coincidence? I think not.
I really appreciate all the help I am getting from you folks. Its making the research much easier.
A very good friend of mine is a musician. He is actually the lead guitarist for a band that is, hopefully soon, really going to make it big. Anyway, he had a few minutes to take a break from writing some music to help me out with this project. He is another of my "Go To" friends when I need some help that is beyond my abilities. He also spends A LOT of time on the internet and working on computers. He said he got good at working on computers because a lot of the websites he visits seem to download viruses on his computer. Anyway, we used a special program on his computer that allows you to enhance photos. We picked up the idea from watching a special on the History channel on the Shroud Of Turin. If this isn't definitive proof, I don't know what is….Please, judge for yourself:
If anybody does know where this underwear may be now, I would be most interested in it. To bring these two pieces together again would be...well, beyond description....I smell history in the making!!!!
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whitecoyote
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Oh, this is good, real good!!! 
If anybody does know where this underwear may be now, I would be most interested in it. To bring these two pieces together again would be...well, beyond description....I smell history in the making!!!!
that underwear is not nearly as stainless as your super ultra rare 64
But really now, what Saxon Pig wants to know is "can it shoot +P's?" 
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I have located this underwear.
It has been magnafluxed, X-rayed, chemically analyzed, and had DNA tests run by the CSI crew. Then, it was laundered, starched, ironed and pressed, and sealed in an archival frame to prevent deterioration to preserve it for posterity and for display. I have seen it, and it is quite impressive.
If seriously interested in it, we can discuss terms. I can't afford to buy it, but I am going to act as broker. We are talking serious bucks here, so no frivolous offers, please.
It has been magnafluxed, X-rayed, chemically analyzed, and had DNA tests run by the CSI crew. Then, it was laundered, starched, ironed and pressed, and sealed in an archival frame to prevent deterioration to preserve it for posterity and for display. I have seen it, and it is quite impressive.
If seriously interested in it, we can discuss terms. I can't afford to buy it, but I am going to act as broker. We are talking serious bucks here, so no frivolous offers, please.
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Congratulations on your stupendous find! I'll confess that I was a little envious of your lucky GOLD find, but it inspired me to keep searching!
My persistence paid off and I'd like to share my good fortune with you.
I too found a mis-marked M-64! It's looks a little different from the one you posted, but it might be mostly due to different lighting. Take a look!
Oh PLEEZ.................
Use your head man- the case hardened frame clearly shows this to be a prototype for the Heritage series.
Sometimes I wonder 'bout chu guys.....
The box may be wrong, though. Probably an attempt to keep The Heritage series secret. I think that may be a Colt box.
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Thank you SO much for the tip. Sadly, I do not know any certified welders. My CPA, Master Electrician and Guitar friend (that also is also a computer whiz) also don't know much about welding. If you would be so kind as to forward this to your certified welder friend, I would appreciate his opinion.
I, of course, took the grips off as I didn't want to chance scratching a vintage set of Cokes. We all know how hard those are getting to find! Anyway, I really had to lean into it to get the sparks going and, let me tell you something, that sucker got HOT! As expected, on the flat spots I made, the bright stainless is showing through.
Again, any input would be GREATLY appreciated, I remain in all of your debt!
Oh PLEEZ.................
Use your head man- the case hardened frame clearly shows this to be a prototype for the Heritage series.
Sometimes I wonder 'bout chu guys.....
The box may be wrong, though. Probably an attempt to keep The Heritage series secret. I think that may be a Colt box.
C'mon Lee, can't you read? That's a Coli box, not Colt. Of course Coli is a cutesy, deliberate misspelled shortening of Kolibri, and the gun is a prototype Heritage Series Ladysmith in 2.7mm Kolibri caliber. Overall length is about three inches. Not seen are the moon clips, about the size of a nickel.
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Laundered and starched? I don't want them with out the original skid marks.
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Sgt127 must be kin to Andy Griffith!! LOL
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I can't believe you guys. Especially you Lee. This is serious. Has anyone called Roy? Are they re-writing the SCSW yet? Don't any of you jokers realize what this means to serious SW collectors the world over??????
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Driheat,
Thank you for that link. I think a lot of people don't give poodle groomers as much credit as they deserve. They have a pretty keen eye for things that have "WOW" factor. I mean, when you think about it, they are creating a work of art on a MOVING canvas!!
I am continuing my research on the Macarthur connection that S&Wchad brought to light, Sir, I remain in your debt.
There have been some pretty stunning developments on the Holy Grail of Springfield itself though. Things I did not expect.
My friend, the Master Electrician came by again, and, I used his Coke Bottle glasses to look this jewel over one more time.
I know this doesn't seem possible, as a matter of fact, I am shocked, but, I will just lay all the cards on the table and let you decide.
Looking at the parts of exposed stainless steel, both on the muzzle and, the flats I created when I did the grinder test as suggested. It appears, under high magnification, that the blue is somehow trying to restore itself. There is a very light brownish red "coating:" forming on the exposed stainless. Its actually in the metal, not just on top. As best as I can figure, this will continue to darken and then become more blue-ish until it matches the rest of the gun. Some sort of "super" stainless steel? A prototype? Top secret Government project? I don't know, and, the people that DO know may not be talking.
I'm not sure what is going on, but, its like watching the Phoenix rising from the ashes or something…
I think I will tuck this little gem into a corner of my safe, let the finish restore itself fully. Maybe break it back out in a few months. It will take some time to gather up the necessary funds to allow Handejector to finalize the deal on the underwear. Again, he is a class act and, I thank him.
In the meantime, I think I will just relax, enjoy my new find, and again, thank all of you on this great forum for all your help.
Adios, and, good shooting. Keep your eye out for that "ONE" in the little pawnshop. You too, could someday, find yourself in the same position as me, saying, "Now, I am holding a piece of history!"
Thank you for that link. I think a lot of people don't give poodle groomers as much credit as they deserve. They have a pretty keen eye for things that have "WOW" factor. I mean, when you think about it, they are creating a work of art on a MOVING canvas!!
I am continuing my research on the Macarthur connection that S&Wchad brought to light, Sir, I remain in your debt.
There have been some pretty stunning developments on the Holy Grail of Springfield itself though. Things I did not expect.
My friend, the Master Electrician came by again, and, I used his Coke Bottle glasses to look this jewel over one more time.
I know this doesn't seem possible, as a matter of fact, I am shocked, but, I will just lay all the cards on the table and let you decide.
Looking at the parts of exposed stainless steel, both on the muzzle and, the flats I created when I did the grinder test as suggested. It appears, under high magnification, that the blue is somehow trying to restore itself. There is a very light brownish red "coating:" forming on the exposed stainless. Its actually in the metal, not just on top. As best as I can figure, this will continue to darken and then become more blue-ish until it matches the rest of the gun. Some sort of "super" stainless steel? A prototype? Top secret Government project? I don't know, and, the people that DO know may not be talking.
I'm not sure what is going on, but, its like watching the Phoenix rising from the ashes or something…
I think I will tuck this little gem into a corner of my safe, let the finish restore itself fully. Maybe break it back out in a few months. It will take some time to gather up the necessary funds to allow Handejector to finalize the deal on the underwear. Again, he is a class act and, I thank him.
In the meantime, I think I will just relax, enjoy my new find, and again, thank all of you on this great forum for all your help.
Adios, and, good shooting. Keep your eye out for that "ONE" in the little pawnshop. You too, could someday, find yourself in the same position as me, saying, "Now, I am holding a piece of history!"
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that piece of American history should be on permanent display at the SMITHsonian for all to see.
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DUHHH! First you buy the Goldfish a nice dinner....maybe include a fine whine.But how do you breed a goldfish? They're very small.........
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But how do you breed a goldfish? They're very small.........
Well... First you have to cut that Viagra pill in to 20 tiny small but equal pieces...
Thank you SO much for the tip. Sadly, I do not know any certified welders. My CPA, Master Electrician and Guitar friend (that also is also a computer whiz) also don't know much about welding. If you would be so kind as to forward this to your certified welder friend, I would appreciate his opinion.
I, of course, took the grips off as I didn't want to chance scratching a vintage set of Cokes. We all know how hard those are getting to find! Anyway, I really had to lean into it to get the sparks going and, let me tell you something, that sucker got HOT! As expected, on the flat spots I made, the bright stainless is showing through.
Again, any input would be GREATLY appreciated, I remain in all of your debt!
The sparks appear to be high carbon steel. This must mean that it is a rare dual-alloy with the characteristics of both metals.
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Dinner and a Movie...
.... and wash it down with a little Chardonnay... I read somewhere that White Wine goes good with fish...
But whatever you do, don't take the Goldfish to see "Finding Nemo..." The Mood will be broken, no spawning will occur and you'll be up all night listening to fish tragedy stories about how her EX was a real Shark ...
Don't ask me how I know this....
.... and wash it down with a little Chardonnay... I read somewhere that White Wine goes good with fish...
But whatever you do, don't take the Goldfish to see "Finding Nemo..." The Mood will be broken, no spawning will occur and you'll be up all night listening to fish tragedy stories about how her EX was a real Shark ...
Don't ask me how I know this....
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Be sure you put it in complete darkness. The darker the light, the darker the finish will be. (sic) (Think about that one)
...and thanks for the compliment. On the deal- could you go ahead and forward a couple o' thou posthaste? I don't want this deal to slip away.
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OUCH!
I think I just got dinged!
I think I just got dinged!
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Nerds
Every group has them. All that have posted to this forum are for sure, Gun Nerds. (oops, I guess that means me too.)
Thanks for the laughs guys.
Every group has them. All that have posted to this forum are for sure, Gun Nerds. (oops, I guess that means me too.)
Thanks for the laughs guys.
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You had me going for quite awhile, that is until I checked with West Point, and found that MacArthur's "unmentionables" were used in 1947 to restore the lining of his gold braid admiral's hat.
I'd check that model 64 to see if it's been cold blued!!!!
I'd check that model 64 to see if it's been cold blued!!!!
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THIS JUST IN.... !
After pouring over the microfiche files all last night, new research conducted by the Smith & Wesson Secret Squirrel Society has revealed that the gun as shown is a complete hoax!
This serial number was actually allocated to the Pre-War German Research Facility and Smith & Wesson Field Office & European Performance Center in the town of NeuGunBoom located deep in the Bavarian Mountains.
Production records found after the war and lost until yesterday, points to the fact that this gun was actually made from Duralum, a predecessor to our modern Unobtainium. Upon it's completion this very rare revolver was presented to Herman Goering who carried it whenever he was flying his private Junker to reduce the aircraft's overall take off weight.
Herr Goering liked the gun so much that he kept it, only later surrendering it personally to Omar Bradley when the Allied forces overtook his escape, and caught up with him in a Marseilles Bath House. General Bradley's desendants have kept this gun's location a secret since the war in an attempt to prevent it's duplication in Scandium. Only recently, with the advent of the S&W Keylock have they decided to make it public.
Factory Letters for this and any other model you may wish documented are available from these newly available records now being stored in a safe deposit box at the National Bank of Nigeria. Just forward me your credit card number....
After pouring over the microfiche files all last night, new research conducted by the Smith & Wesson Secret Squirrel Society has revealed that the gun as shown is a complete hoax!
This serial number was actually allocated to the Pre-War German Research Facility and Smith & Wesson Field Office & European Performance Center in the town of NeuGunBoom located deep in the Bavarian Mountains.
Production records found after the war and lost until yesterday, points to the fact that this gun was actually made from Duralum, a predecessor to our modern Unobtainium. Upon it's completion this very rare revolver was presented to Herman Goering who carried it whenever he was flying his private Junker to reduce the aircraft's overall take off weight.
Herr Goering liked the gun so much that he kept it, only later surrendering it personally to Omar Bradley when the Allied forces overtook his escape, and caught up with him in a Marseilles Bath House. General Bradley's desendants have kept this gun's location a secret since the war in an attempt to prevent it's duplication in Scandium. Only recently, with the advent of the S&W Keylock have they decided to make it public.
Factory Letters for this and any other model you may wish documented are available from these newly available records now being stored in a safe deposit box at the National Bank of Nigeria. Just forward me your credit card number....
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