My county will be voting on a resolution on Thursday night the 12th. They have moved their regular meeting from the 75 person capacity room to the high school auditorium. I reckon they are expecting a crowd. 
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A different approach?
The Culpepper County, Virginia Board of Supervisors has stated that it intends to declare the county a Second Amendment Sanctuary.
To further reinforce that concept, Culpepper County Sheriff Scott Jenkins has said that he will deputize "thousands of people" if the Virginia legislature enacts more and stronger anti-gun laws.
Quoting the sheriff:
"Every Sheriff and Commonwealth Attorney in Virginia will see the consequences if our General Assembly passes further unnecessary gun restrictions. I plan to properly screen and deputize thousands of our law-abiding citizens to protect their constitutional right to own firearms."
Oh, and the sheriff has already been offering free concealed carry classes.
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The Culpepper County, Virginia Board of Supervisors has stated that it intends to declare the county a Second Amendment Sanctuary.
To further reinforce that concept, Culpepper County Sheriff Scott Jenkins has said that he will deputize "thousands of people" if the Virginia legislature enacts more and stronger anti-gun laws.
Quoting the sheriff:
"Every Sheriff and Commonwealth Attorney in Virginia will see the consequences if our General Assembly passes further unnecessary gun restrictions. I plan to properly screen and deputize thousands of our law-abiding citizens to protect their constitutional right to own firearms."
Oh, and the sheriff has already been offering free concealed carry classes.
Interested forum members may read about this by clicking here.
Steve K
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As of last night, 9 December, out of the 95 counties in Virginia 59 are Sanctuary Counties.
akoda
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I hear Hanover votes tomorrow, should go through without issue
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I agree.
Way too early to be optimistic.
It's all about changing demographics.
Even if we win this one, the Left will get most of what they want in the end.
Democrat leadership is now saying that there will be grandfathering of existing, legally owned firearms. Sounds like they are now planning to resurrect the 1994 federal assault weapons ban.
Northam-backed assault weapon bill will include 'grandfather clause' for existing guns - Virginia Mercury
Northam-backed assault weapon bill will include 'grandfather clause' for existing guns - Virginia Mercury
Steve K
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Virginia now has 77 Sanctuary Counties out of 95.
Allowing the grandfathering of the proposed banned guns means we are giving away the rights of future generations. None of the proposals will impact crime in a positive sense. Politicians talk about common sense gun laws, but I haven't heard any yet.
Allowing the grandfathering of the proposed banned guns means we are giving away the rights of future generations. None of the proposals will impact crime in a positive sense. Politicians talk about common sense gun laws, but I haven't heard any yet.
Not a politician, but try these on for size:
Repeal the 1968 GCA
Repeal the 1934 NFA
Repeal the Hughes Amendment
Institute concealed carry reciprocity
See, that was pretty easy.
Agreed!
The majority of counties, and I'm sure more will be added, have stated their opposition to further infringement. I really wish all this sentiment had been expressed on election day and I also hope that the Democrats are paying attention. Well, that last part might be a real stretch! The 1994 AWB failed to make any change in crime, but it gets trotted out time and time again. It is futile and only the law-abiding will abide and that is what makes it a fool's errand.
I was actually kind of surprised that my city unanimously passed the resolution last night. Will be interesting to see what Virginia Beach does, they should vote soon.
It is not the 1994 federal ban:
"In this case, the governor's assault weapons ban will include a grandfather clause for individuals who already own assault weapons, with the requirement they register their weapons before the end of a designated grace period," Northam spokeswoman Alena Yarmosky said in a statement Monday evening. "Additional details on this and all other bills will be announced prior to the start of the upcoming session."
This is what dems refer to as a "reasonable start".
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Gee, maybe it's time for some Civil Disobedience?
So it's also a registration scheme. I also saw where Gov. Northam threatened consequences for any locality refusing to enforce any legislation that gets signed into law.
Chesterfield County board of supervisors refused to take a vote on this issue last night. The new board will be seated in January, perhaps they will have a little more spine.
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akoda
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Hanover voted yesterday to support the second amendment but they did not include the word sanctuary.
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This is not the 1994 AWB in more ways that one. The 1994 AWB grandfathered the weapons themselves, which meant that there was no prohibition from selling them to other parties. That ultimately does not take them out of circulation.
Registration is a means to potentially address that. Registration can have two very different meanings and outcomes. It can require the weapons to be registered, but still transferable - such as the Hughes Amendment to the FOPA of 1986.
However, more often than not "registration" in this context means that the grandfathered firearms are not grandfathered as a class, but rather grandfathered only to the registered owner. This means that while the government does not deprive you of your property, that property is no longer transferable, or at best is only transferable as part of an estate to direct descendants.
That's just a work around to avoid the appearance of a "taking" of private property that would require monetary compensation. None the less, registration used in that context does deprive you of the value of your property by preventing you from ever selling it.
The fact that the "details" will be provided later is a clear indication that the registration requirement will in all likelihood ban any transfer of the weapons, which then are effectively worthless as they cannot be converted to cash.
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As an aside, from time to time I hear Reagan trotted out as some sort of ideal by pro gun folks. He was not. Not even close. He implemented the handgun restrictions in CA as governor, and he was complicit in the Hughes Amendment to the FOPA of 1986. That amendment banned new full auto weapons, and it was introduced at the 11th hour with almost no opportunity for debate - yet Reagan signed the bill anyway. He also lobbied hard for the AWB of 1994 after his presidency.
Reagan was pro law enforcement, not pro gun. His administration led the charge to militarize police forces due to his ramping up of the "war on drugs" and worse, the divisive nature of his media messaging on that war. We're still reaping the consequences of those actions in very negative ways.
Reagan was a classic example of a politician who said one thing to appeal to his base and then did another - repeatedly. It's never a good idea to judge a politician on what he says, instead we need to judge them on their actions. That's even more important now than it was in 1986.
NY style. They, the gun grabbers, not so effectively banned any new AR purchases and required registration of existing AR's after Newtown.
The compliance rate on registration is reportedly somewhere around 4-5%.
The Gov will never talk about that.New "featureless" rifles continue to be sold in NY.
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