What does this mean....?

dahur

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I got my 15-22 back from S & W today. It was sent in for a OOB firing, and multiple FTF, and FTE. Although I can probably attribute that to the Winchester 555 I was using.
Anyways all it says on the work order is:
Order#xxxxxx serial#xxxxxx

BR, NO M,

And at the bottom: if I have any questions about the work performed, call S&W.

Are these abbreviations for the work they did? Seems like they could have better explained things.
 
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I got my 15-22 back from S & W today. It was sent in for a OOB firing, and multiple FTF, and FTE. Although I can probably attribute that to the Winchester 555 I was using.
Anyways all it says on the work order is:
Order#xxxxxx serial#xxxxxx

BR, NO M,

And at the bottom: if I have any questions about the work performed, call S&W.

Are these abbreviations for the work they did? Seems like they could have better explained things.

I'd call them. Maybe if they get enough people calling in to ask what the abbreviations mean, they'll either stop using them or put an explanation at the bottom.
 
Just got off the phone with S & W.

The abriviations are:
BR = The initials of the guy who received it
NO M = no magazine

Other than that it's a blank page The rep looked it up and told me they updated the springs, and tuned the ejector.
 
Just an educated guess, but I would say:

"OOB" would be "out of battery"
"FTF" would be either "failure to feed" or ""failure to fire".
FTE" would be either "failure to extract" or "failure to eject".

Depending on what the gun was sent back for.
 
Just an educated guess, but I would say:

"OOB" would be "out of battery"
"FTF" would be either "failure to feed" or ""failure to fire".
FTE" would be either "failure to extract" or "failure to eject".

Depending on what the gun was sent back for.

No, it didn't say any of that on my work order I got back. It said nothing to show what they did. I had to call them to find out. I sent the gun to them for an "out of battery", and multiple FTF's, and FTE's.
 
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Been shooting my M&P now since Sept. of 2011, cleaned about 4 times and 2 times with a boresnake. I am betting that the rifle worked and may have started FTF or FTE after a cleaning. Here is my reasoning.

If you clean the breach area, be very careful to not bend the extractor either down or up or right or left, (looking at the weapon from the open extraction port), if a rag grabs it and you bend it, you will have all of the issues you just sent the rifle in for again. Be careful, the extractor rubs the bolt, touching, and has to be the correct distance from the 22 casing. Get a flashlight, remove the magazine, look at the extractor as you slide the bolt in and out (prior to having issues of course), get to see how it makes contact with the bolt, you can fix it after that if it was bent.

How do I know that, my boresnake as I was pulling it out the of the front of the rifle grabbed the extractor and I bent it a tad. I remember seeing how it worked prior to cleaning and did couple of spent casing extractions and it failed big time. I bent it back and all is well. Just be careful during cleaning and it will be fine.
 
If you use a small piece of neoprene tubing and slip it over the ejector, it will help in not snagging it.

As for S&W not noting what had been done to the gun, I sent them my PC model with a major accuracy issue. It took about 3 weeks to get it back and lo and behold no description of what if anything had been done to it. I called S&W and was told that they replaced the whole upper. Plus, I think they worked on the fcg as it was lighter and crisper than when I sent it to them. You'd think it would be in their interest to tell the owner what had been done wouldn't you.

Oh well, at least they fixed the gun.

Hobie
 

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