What has happen to gun collecting?

What has happened to the price of food, cars, oil, etc? :confused:
What has NOT gone up? Groceries and utilities seem to be higher every month.



Anyone remember 25 cent gasoline??
Yes.
18 cents once during a gas war!
I remember when $2 worth ran me a few days in a 390 with two 4's! :rolleyes:
A guy pumped it for ya, cleaned the windshield, and checked the oil. He'd check the tires if you asked him to.
 
At 39, and collecting for 15 years, you ain't seen nuthin! Wait til you're nearly seventy, and have been collecting for over fifty years. Winchester 1886's that weren't nice enough to spend fifty dollars on are now upwards of two grand; Smith 1950 Targets for sixty-five bucks, K38's and K22's for fifty dollars.

Of course, wages were a lot lower, but you didn't have the tax man picking your pocket quite as enthusiastically. The sad thing was, at the time I was looking at twenty year old American Rifleman, and seeing where brand new Colt New Services were being sold for just over twenty-five bucks, and Winchester 1892's and 86's were thirty bucks; wishing I could have taken advantage of those prices.
 
What was your income 15 years ago? What percent has it gone up? Apply that same percent increase to the price of a S&W. I bet it isn't too far off from what your income went up.
 
The prices are only out of touch with reality if the guns don't sell. If the gun sells, it was valued correctly...

It's called market-value and it is indisputable.

Sometimes I see a used S&W that I want but what I am willing to pay is a ways away from its actual selling price. I may like the gun a great deal, but I just do not think the current price is "reasonable," according to my own built-in price barometer. The actual buyer thinks the price is reasonable enough that he pulls the trigger. This doesn't unduly influence me, much less make me consider another interest! I have been shooting, buying, tinkering with, and generally immersed in, S&W revolvers all of my life. During that period I have been out-spent over and over and over again by others with more money and/or more desire. I would never expect it to be otherwise. Don't see the current situation as anything really new - just accelerated by the electronic media, which we all enjoy. That same media has generally accelerated virtually everything it comes in contact with - both in good and not-so-good ways.
 
It's called market-value and it is indisputable.

Sometimes I see a used S&W that I want but what I am willing to pay is a ways away from its actual selling price. I may like the gun a great deal, but I just do not think the current price is "reasonable," according to my own built-in price barometer. The actual buyer thinks the price is reasonable enough that he pulls the trigger. This doesn't unduly influence me, much less make me consider another interest! I have been shooting, buying, tinkering with, and generally immersed in, S&W revolvers all of my life. During that period I have been out-spent over and over and over again by others with more money and/or more desire. I would never expect it to be otherwise. Don't see the current situation as anything really new - just accelerated by the electronic media, which we all enjoy. That same media has generally accelerated virtually everything it comes in contact with - both in good and not-so-good ways.

WHERE'S MY "LIKE" BUTTON?:cool:
 
REALLY Expensive Smiths were the "Money Guns" from the 70's. I remember paying $750 for my first 29. I was making $4.40 a hour at my first job and $30 a day on my second.

We have been really spoiled for the past 25 years.
 
The "I" word...

Like Ladder 13 and several others have mentioned-It's all gone up. But with few exceptions, I'm in the "older is better" club when it comes to many things, guns made out of metal being on the top of the list, but when you considder the other factors mentioned, larger population of buyers, investors looking for a hole to dive in, etc, I think the prices would be a at a level that would make our eyes roll back into our heads, if it were not for the depressed economic situation we are now in. Join the stampede. Flapjack.
 
How are they overvaluing "things" if that is the going rate? How does what you paid for a 686+ a few years ago, have anything to do with what another model is worth today? How does the number of rds that a SIG semi-auto holds have a bearing on what a S&W revolver is worth?

Because I can get a better "tool" for the job for less money. It's like comparing a new BMW to a Model T. Sure, some folks would love to have a Model T but really, the BMW would be a better driving tool then the Model T would be.
I love revolvers, pretty much cut my teeth on em' but for home defense I want as many rounds as I can get for those "bump in the night" situations. When you're in your underware with just a flashlight and a handgun you want all the "bang for the buck" that you can get. Sure, a good K or L frame would work but I'd not pay as much or more for something that'll limit my ability to defend myself as I would something that'd be a better tool for the job at hand.
I guess it all depends on your priorities and how much disposable income you have to spend on the tools you need.
 
Deals can be found but you are not likely to find many at Gun Shows,Most of My best deals have come from Local Pawn Shops & a few from Local Gun Shops
 
Because I can get a better "tool" for the job for less money. It's like comparing a new BMW to a Model T. Sure, some folks would love to have a Model T but really, the BMW would be a better driving tool then the Model T would be.
I love revolvers, pretty much cut my teeth on em' but for home defense I want as many rounds as I can get for those "bump in the night" situations. When you're in your underware with just a flashlight and a handgun you want all the "bang for the buck" that you can get. Sure, a good K or L frame would work but I'd not pay as much or more for something that'll limit my ability to defend myself as I would something that'd be a better tool for the job at hand.
I guess it all depends on your priorities and how much disposable income you have to spend on the tools you need.

I'd say it's more like comparing a pickup truck(bottom feeder) to a Mercedes(wheelgun). The pickup is practical, but the Mercedes just makes you feel good!
 
I'd say it's more like comparing a pickup truck(bottom feeder) to a Mercedes(wheelgun). The pickup is practical, but the Mercedes just makes you feel good!

Think you need to flip that. The Pick-up is the revolver and the Mercedes is the semi-auto. LOL. Having said that I'd not trade my '96 S-10 V-8 conversion for two sports cars. :D
 
When people ask $500 bucks for a S&W M19 then they're over valuing things. I paid less then that for a 686+ a few years ago. I'd love to pick up a good K-Frame but I'd not pay over $300 for any of em' and I'd not go over $350-$375 for an L-Frame. I can get a CPO Sig 2340 for $325 and have 12 rounds of 40cal with Sig quality so why pay much more for a 6 shot revolver.:confused:

Fair enough, but with that thinking you will not be 'picking up' many (any?) 'good' K, or L frames... Sigs are nice guns, so looks like you're in luck being able to find them cheap.

Pricing is always relative. No matter how much you want it to be, or need it to be, you just can't expect prices to be the way they were xx years ago. Just doesn't work that way. Our whole economy, and it's health, is based on "growth."

What does everyone think "growth" means? Growth means increasing revenue & profits, and the related pricing to get there. Hear it all the time, my cable bill used to be $xx, a car used to cost $xx, my rent used to be $xx, used to be able to buy a nice S&W for $xx, etc...

People hate change, especially when it costs more money!! The real problem is when industry (corporations) drive pricing up more than the relative increase in wages. Of course over the past several years wages have been way down, non-existent for many, but prices are increasing. Corporations are seeing record profits, and regular people are just trying to hang on, not pretty... The rules of the game have shifted heavily toward corporations.

As for our beloved guns, you can always find some kind of a great deal from someone that does not know what they have (sadly, especially a widow), or are desperate for cash. But other than those rare circumstances, quality guns will go up in value; some faster than others.
 
A local guy has an M64 and an M19, he'd take $600 for both, that's $300 each, wish to God I had the money, I'd grab em' in a heart beat or less. There are deals out there, you just have to look for them. There are also a lot of folks that think they're old revolvers are worth more then a new one would cost. You just have to sort the deals from the turds. :D
 
The internet has provided education in many areas.

More people are aware as to what they can get for their items.:(
 
Diito on that! We have created our own monster.

Plus I think more are into "collecting" for a quick profit. Also, have you seen the price of new S&W's! I'll take old over new any day, even if price is equal.

John

I think your second point is particularly valid. People are comparing new S&W revolvers to older models and the old timers are winning out.
 
When people ask $500 bucks for a S&W M19 then they're over valuing things. I paid less then that for a 686+ a few years ago. I'd love to pick up a good K-Frame but I'd not pay over $300 for any of em' and I'd not go over $350-$375 for an L-Frame. I can get a CPO Sig 2340 for $325 and have 12 rounds of 40cal with Sig quality so why pay much more for a 6 shot revolver.:confused:

What did you pay for gas a few years ago ??
 
I walk and set up for many shows during the winter.
Spend alot of time on the net.
$300 S&W and Colt handguns are few and far between.
I agree many dealers are out of whack on gun show prices.
What has become difficult is after you sell a nice Smith is finding
a decent replacment.
Heck, have the fun is the "hunt".

Why did you sale your Smith & Wesson ? I have never sold one of my S&W
 
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