What to buy ?

So it's illegal to sell a double action, but once it is yours you can convert back to double action legally?

To answer the OP's original question.

I would wait to see the 586 and then decide between the 66 and the 586. I understand things are more expensive in CA but $800 for a 65 is just way too much.
 
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So it's illegal to sell a double action, but once it is yours you can convert back to double action legally?

To answer the OP's original question.

I would wait to see the 586 and then decide between the 66 and the 586. I understand things are more expensive in CA but $800 for a 65 is just way too much.
CA has a roster of "not unsafe" handguns. The list gets smaller every year as guns drop off (manufacturers don't renew). The only way to add new guns is to add microstamping, LCI and mag disconnect, unless such new gun can be argued as the same as the one already on the roster. Gun color, sights, place of manufacture, etc. can make a new gun be deemed "different" such as a USA made Glock vs Austrian or the new MC Operator vs the old one, etc.

Revolvers are exempt from microstamping and LCI and mag disconnect do not apply. However, most older Smiths are not on the roster. Hence, Californians have to go through a "loophole" to acquire some of the older Smiths. Such loophole has its limitations, too. For instance, the barrel length has to be at least 3 inches, etc.

In addition, California buyers need to find an FFL that performs the exemption. That "service" costs money, say from $50 - $150+, as not too many FFL's do them.

So a $500 pre-lock Model 65 with a 4" barrel will easily turn into about an $800 revolver after shipping, transfer fees, use/sales tax, conversion fees, etc. I just went through that not long ago...

Then, some sellers don't want to bother shipping to CA as there is an extra form that needs to be completed and most they've heard is that CA gun laws are messed up. They just don't want to deal with it at all. Can't really blame them.

That's our world... I have seen, on many instances, that a pre-lock 686 got bought via private party for $850 with multiple buyers in line as back up. [emoji33] So an $800 Model 65 is not totally ridiculous here. After all, we still observe American capitalism here. [emoji12]
 
Have you seen the 586 yet? Personally, that would be my 1st choice of what you mentioned. If I had to pay those kind of prices, I sure would have less guns. ( I know, it is what it is) Bob
 
No in Cali fuc ornia - the only way a gunsh can take these old guns in and then re sell them is as single actions. - they give you the part to return the pistol to regular double/ single action - but they can only sell them by law as single actions . Welcome to our world - also why prices are stupid expensive here


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And i thought our laws in Australia were bad :eek: At least you don't have to pay $7,000 for a second hand AR15!
 
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Murph I am with you fly some place for $400 bucks and buying same gun for $400 problem is how do I get it back ?????
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Find some gun shows in Nevada and drive there. You won't be able to buy from a dealer, though.

Check the web sites like Arms List and find one in a neighboring state for sale by an individual.


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So you buy the gun on gunbroker for said amount, and have the single action modification done . Then shipped to you to have the double action modification done. So how much does all the gunsmithing work cost ? In the end it might be almost cheaper to buy one for $800 with the gun shop putting the double action parts back in as opposed to going through all the hassle. Most 66's and 65's are $500-$600 on GB anyway. Plus shipping,plus receiving cost, plus the gunsmith work....easily adds up to the $800.

i see guns on GB quite often that could save me money over the one at the LGS, but after $25-$35 for shipping , and the FFL getting $40 for receiving the gun, I would rather just spend the extra $20-$30 to have the gun in my hand and do all the checks and look it over really well. Can't do that online..and shipping one back generally cuts into whatever savings I may have had.
 
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What I did buy !!!!

Thanks for all the feed back everyone after searching high and low and through out Southern California here is what I have purchased in various SW revolver models: Captain K could use some of your research to give me some factual dates of manufacture and some SW Intel on these pistols :

1. SW Model 27 Original High Shine Blueing with box and papers 8/38 barrel .38/.357

Price paid : $650.00



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2. SW 28 Highway Patrolman in Nickel ( seller told me pistol was not original Nickel from Factory) 6" barrel

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Price $675

3. SW 66 -2 4" SS no box no papers / purchased from my LGS - gentleman just walked in that morning with it - LGS rated it at 98% if that truly means anything - waited 40 days to pick it up .

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Paid : 650

Any feed back good or bad is welcome . All of these pistols are double action as I purchased them from private sellers.

Thanks Petersn


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Here are pics of 27:
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Congratulations on your new guns. I like them all but I really like the. Model 27. That's an awesome looking pistol!

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I think you done pretty darn good! That's good pricing on the model 27 you got, even though that long tom isn't a P&R gun. The second gun is a model 28, not a 27. I would say you did OK on that one too, even though the gun has been refinished in nickel. The 66 looks to be a nice pistol, but I didn't see a price associated with it.
 
Paid $650 for 66 no box or papers !


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Well, considering that you live in Kalifornistan, I think you got some nice pistols for some decent pricing. Enjoy yourself with those nice revolvers.
 
Thanks Gents yes getting harder and harder to squire decent older SW revolvers in Commiefornia!
But you have to keep on trying Kernal C ? You out there can you pinpoint more specific dates these pistols were made ?


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