What to stoke up as the leadoff shell in a Shockwave or other short shotgun?

Which shell would you choose for the first shot in the chamber?


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I'll get a chance to find out for myself next week, but so far what I've read here and elsewhere is that the Shockwave isn't as punishing as ya might think. Seen several vids in action. I've got a bunch of low recoil and regular 00, target and birdshot to play with.

Surprisingly easy to control with any load. I am impressed with mine, especially since as a kid I watched an officer test fire a double barrel sawed off that looked like something Jerry Reed carried in Gator and cut his finger on the trigger from the recoil . . .
 
Going to get some grip tape for the birds head grip like Hickok45 did to his.
Sweaty palms in the summer might let the safety slip into and tear up the web of my hand like it did to him with a relaxed grip.
Other than that I'm loving the little sucker. Hitting what I'm shooting at with every shot.
Next slugs. When the monsoon ends here.
 
I prefer a stock and 18"barrel. The shockwave is useless,but a conversation piece.
 
Just a note on fire power.......

Saw "Jerry" on tv with impossible shots with a new toy.
He loaded a 12 Ga. semi-auto with Remington "Green" STS 12 Ga. shells...

Ten in all and when the smoke cleared the timer read .......
1.21 seconds from the 1st going off, to the last !!
 
Going to get some grip tape for the birds head grip like Hickok45 did to his.
Sweaty palms in the summer might let the safety slip into and tear up the web of my hand like it did to him with a relaxed grip.
Other than that I'm loving the little sucker. Hitting what I'm shooting at with every shot.
Next slugs. When the monsoon ends here.

I'm wondering if grip tape isn't adding fresh grit to the sander. Especially since I'm shooting the 3" shells. I'm thinking he did an inner tube grip job. That'd be the safe way to achieve more grip.
 
So here are patterns shot today with my Shockwave using 3" OO Buck fired cold without sighters or any other bogus cheating. The first pattern was at 10 yards and the second at 20 yards with older Federal Premium 3" OO Buck 15 pellets. I didn't even really notice the difference in recoil, but the magnums spread more than the 2¾" regular shells.
 

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This is an excellent video (like all of his). It amazed me the regularity with which he can hit the 80 yard gong with slugs and that gun. Even silhouette targets too.



Hickok: I've never tried to hit the gong with this so it will probably take a while to find the range.
Bam-Ding! Bam-Ding! Bam-Ding!

Guy can shoot.


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Come on now, you can't do that. We need details!
The Nobel Sport 2 1/4" 00 buck shells are effective out to 10 yards and pattern well. They have 6 pellets (the extra hole is the wad). The recoil is negligible out of my Remmy 870 Gatekeeper II. The Hornady Critical Defense 00 buck loads have 8 pellets and are effective farther out (15-25 yds.), but the recoil is much greater (still pretty controllable).
 
Well I think in the wake of my test, I need to fire the 3"#1 Buck and 3"#4 Buck to see if they get similar results. I have also found that I can run 3+1 3" magnum shells in the chamber with no loss to original capacity of 5+1 or compression of any of the shells. I ALWAYS CHECK FOR NOSE CRUSHING OR COMPRESSION.

Also the 2¾" Tula OO Buck 9 pellet load will be tested because it will serve as both a practice and backup load as it is readily available at Walmart in 25 round boxes for nearly the cost of two boxes of five rounds of Federal, Winchester, or Remington.
Another load that is of particular interest is the Federal 3" Flitecontrol OOB 12 pellet load. I wonder if this might just be the load that takes me to thirty or forty yards effectively while staying in OO Buck.
 
I think that a solid hit with any of the loads listed above should take care of the problem.
 
The first 4 in mine are #4 buck and the last two are OO. Don't ask me why, I don't have a good answer. I have always been a fan of the #4's especially inside a dwelling. I highly doubt I would go chasing a survivor out of my house, but in the unlikely event I think the 00 might be a tad better.


I too learned about the safety the hard way. Since I have changed the way I grip it, it is no longer an issue. I have shot the **** out of mine and I can quarantee if you are within 20yards of me I will own you.
 
I'm one who used to believe that bird shot was best used on birds only. But that has changed with the advancement of certain ammo types and testing.

I have personally tested Federal controlled flight #4 turkey loads
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and 00 buck.
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The shotguns used: 26" barrel with turkey choke. 24" cylinder bore (no choke). And 28" improved.

We shot turkey size targets at varying distances from 5 yards to 50 yards. This testing was done for two reasons. We were going turkey hunting obviously and my dad wanted to use his favorite shotgun for home defense which is the 24" cylinder bore.

Our findings.

We did not shoot the 00 buck through the turkey gun. But we found that out to 50 yards the turkey gun was awesome with the Federal #4 turkey load. We also shot other #4 and #5 loads without flight control and the results weren't near as good. Not even close. Most of the Federal pellets hit the target at 50 yards. Recoil wasn't bad at all.

We shot the other two shotguns with Federal flight control 00 buck at distances from 5 to 20 yards. With both shotguns results were impressive at 20 yards and even more so at 10 yards. All pellets hit the target. Again recoil wasn't bad.

Then we shot the Federal #4 turkey loads with both guns. Results were the same. Even the cylinder bore gun was impressive at 20 yards.

Our conclusions were that either load would work well inside my fathers home from distances as far as 15 yards with his favorite shotgun. He chose the #4 turkey load. At 1250 fps, it's more than enough to do the job.

So my suggestion is, pick either one and test it. The problem with shot guns and ammo selection is that results can vary from person to person and gun to gun.
 

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