What Would You Have Done?

[LVSteve]

I might have shot him if he was a clear target. That said, before I moved back to where I'm at now from Austin. My BiL and sister were helping me move. We had the last load on his truck, and made our way down Rundburg? Or Rutland? I now forget which. Anyway, there was an intersection that was gaining a bad reputation for beggers wanting money by intimidating passing cars who were unlucky to catch the red light. Several stories had been in the news recently about these bums jumping on the hoods of cars demanding money.

We were all packing heaters. A, 357, a snub 357, and I was carrying my Walter P-38. We were first in line at said stop, when a guy walked over, made the mistake of sticking head into drivers window. All three of us pulled and aimed our guns at his head. The ending was quite comical. When he was staring down the barrels of three guns, his eyes were saucers and he backed away saying, no offense, no offense. We never said a word and drove on.

So you drove to a known tricky intersection with a window open. Not seeing the forward thinking here, I'm afraid.

 

[Fishslayer]

Charges: "assault with a deadly weapon with intent to kill, assault with a firearm on a law enforcement officer, possession of a firearm by a convicted felon, common law robbery, possession of a stolen vehicle, possession with intent to sell and deliver cocaine, assault on a law enforcement officer and resisting arrest on Saturday."

Huh? So is the penalty more or less than resisting on, say, Friday?

 

[williamlayton]

Little late on this.
My gut reaction would be to shoot. I'd have to defer--based on other experiences--and say that I was not there and what I would have really done is not known.
My suggestion would be to shoot now and start the healing process.
Blessings

 

[Watchdog]

Huh? So is the penalty more or less than resisting on, say, Friday?

Nah, that's just a poorly worded sentence/report by our local media people. Most of them have a problem when it comes to writing stuff.

 

[cowart]

Realistically... I know some people who have guns for protection while traveling, but none of them keep the gun loose in the car. They carry in a holster for convenience. Unless the holster is a cross-draw, they will be sitting on, or leaning on, the holster, and won't be able to draw fast enough to fire at someone who already has a gun in his hand.

 

[Skeet 028]

Nah..Mine is loose on the seat.. covered usually. Carrying a gun in a holster in a vehicle? Always hated it. Some part of it is always sticking into you somewhere! I must admit a holster is a convenience when out of the vehicle though. LOL

 

[walkin jack]

Always keeping aware of potential collateral damage I'd get the muzzle of my Ruger SR-1911 as close to his center mass as I could and turn his chest cavity into a canoe. No hesitation, no regrets, and no problem.

I know that gun laws and deadly force attitudes will vary widely from state to state but I would be willing to fade what ever heat came as a result of my actions. I have no interest in living in a society where I am required by law to sit still and let myself be a crime victim without any right to defend myself. If that be the case then they can take me away!

 

[walkin jack]

You say the bozo is trying to carjack my vehicle with my wife in the car?

Obviously, our lives our in danger. Simple solution: double tap to the chest, one to the head.

Ahh, the old Mozambique drill. That should do it.

 

[Absalom]

Nah..Mine is loose on the seat.. covered.....

Might not be the best strategy. Reminds me of one of the agents in the FBI Miami shootout. Took his gun out of the holster and put it on the seat for faster access before the "felony car stop" went down. Gun went flying somewhere when he stopped the car a bit more abruptly than normal. He had to get out and sit out the battle unarmed.

 

[Big Cholla]

^^^^^^: Except the Mozambique Drill is just the opposite; i.e. two to center of mass and one to the head. And in practical real self defense, IF the head shot is not required to "stop" the bad guy's felonious action, DON'T make that shot. It really looks bad to the investigators. Some over zealous prosecutors just wouldn't let that go. ...........

 

[Muss Muggins]

Gonna be awful loud inside that car . . .

 

[the ringo kid]

So you drove to a known tricky intersection with a window open. Not seeing the forward thinking here, I'm afraid.

Had no choice. I wasnt driving and they were doing me a favor. All it cost me was a stop at Black's BBQ, in Lockhart for a good meal. It was the fastest way to the freeway, past a toll road, and was a wide intersection. We had truck with large flatbed trailer full of my stuff.

 

[BigBill]

Example.

We hunt bears. We practice at the range often for that big moment over and over. We shoot and shoot more. Now comes that moment in time.
There's the bear. It's 30yards away it's staring at you. Your brain pushes the auto mode, your are calm, you automatically know what to do. Your instincts take over. Up comes the rifle, you adjust your footing, you look through the scope and shoot. It's all over in a few seconds.

Do you think a guy shooting at the public trying to high jack a car is going to survive? Your not in the zone yet? Your mind reads the situation. Your mind has a second to react. My split second thought is what's behind your intended target. Next is it safe to shoot. Next the reaction time is milliseconds faster than shooting the bear. It could be you or him dead.
It's not what we do, it's what needs to be done.

We practice, practice, more practice at the range. This is why we practice.

There's a big difference in second guessing your reaction than actually doing it. We go into auto mode right away.

 

[BAM-BAM]

If he jerked my door open with a gun in his hand..........if he tried to point his gun at me...........Well you know..............

But.....

My take from the OP; he was running down a line of cars trying doors.......if my door was locked and with cops right on his tail...... I think the sight of my gun pointed at his head would persuade him to move on........

a lot would depend on if I was the first car he approached or the 2nd or 3rd...... if I'd observed his earlier actions at other cars......... had I heard the earlier gun shots...........



I hate to think the damage I do to my,my wife's or kids ears by discharging my 3913 or 66 in an sealed car.

again if the gun moved in my direction..........no choice

Tough call......life ain't a movie.......IMHO the knowledge you have of what's going on and how much time you have to process it (as your brain slows down life around you)....makes a big difference....... in how any of us would react.....

 

[MasterTech1960]

Always keeping aware of potential collateral damage I'd get the muzzle of my Ruger SR-1911 as close to his center mass as I could and turn his chest cavity into a canoe. No hesitation, no regrets, and no problem.
I know that gun laws and deadly force attitudes will vary widely from state to state but I would be willing to fade what ever heat came as a result of my actions. I have no interest in living in a society where I am required by law to sit still and let myself be a crime victim without any right to defend myself. If that be the case then they can take me away!

I agree with just about everything you posted except ................( Real men love cats! )

 

[Hellraiser]

What would you have done? Don't throw in any "ifs" or "buts" or "depends on..." stuff. It's a simple question.

Realistically and seriously...what would you have done?

I've done it. It don't make me feel better. But I am alive.

 

[zeno338]

I'm with you Big Cholla. Two to the body and one to the head.

Zeke

 

[walkin jack]

I agree with just about everything you posted except ................( Real men love cats! )

Yeah, my cats make me include that in every post!

 

[HKB]

Gonna be awful loud inside that car . . .

With the adrenaline rush it won't be a problem, done it once already.

 

[keith44spl]

Let's jest say, I not bashful about defending mine.......





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