What's your criteria for "good" shooting with a snubbie??

This is my drill for my J frame & LCP: Using a standard paper plate empty the gun as fast as possible, reload & repeat. The goal is to keep all of your rounds on the plate @ three, five & seven yards. I slow down a bit as distance increases but I'm not concerned w/tight groups.

I agree completely. I forgot to include reloading in my post but agree. The little things to practice to reload. A practical training regimen with the things should definitely including reloading.
 
There's a "5x5" target somewhere online... has two 5" circles. They say 5 yards, 5 shots in 5 seconds, into one 5" circle.

I also shoot a little at 10 and 15 yards.
 
This is pretty typical, both are double action:

2" Pre-Model 10 at 50 ft (16.7 yards):

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Model 66 at 10 yards:

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I also use the HiTS Snub Super Test ( courtesy of HardwiredTacticalShooting)

B8 Bullseye repair center on a silhouette type backer. This is all shot from a good low ready where the muzzle is below the base of the target stand.

10 Yards....5 shots in 8 seconds. Two hands
5 Yards....5 shots in 5 seconds. Two hands
3 Yards....5 shots in 3 seconds. Strong hand only.

For the "Advanced Version", you will draw from a concealment holster. For those using a pocket holster, start with the grip established in the holster. Also, at the 3 yard stage, two hands can be used, and 3.5 seconds in line with what we were comfortable with to hold black with sub 15 ounce gun Takes a bit of practice.

I use my defensive ammo or 135gr handloads mimicing my defensive ammo velocities ( 135 gr speer gold dot sb +P) to perform said tests

Here is the new 442 results from concealment using a SideGuard custom low ride quick clip from appendix. Most of the time I skip the two handed part as I like to shoot one handed.

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BTW, all my snubbies that I carry are all steel. The weight helps me a lot with follow-up shots and makes the shooting experience more pleasant.

Now that's a fact!

I don't worry about distance shots with a snubbie. Center of mass no further than ten yards (and that's a long shot for a snub nosed gun of any kind) - that's what they're for.

I can do really long shots with K frame or larger "snubbies" but that's not what they're for so I don't spend much time with that.

As for Bob Munden - he was amazing! And he tuned my SAA replica right out of my class. I had to sell it; it was too fast for me (trigger was SO LIGHT!).
 
I'm already past 77 yo and still a pretty salty shooter. On very rare occasions our IDPA match director brings out a snubby. A 3 inch group is easy to do if you are an experienced revolver shooter. For young people who never shoot revos it's a nightmare.
 
With my 442, 10 yards, 5 shots as fast as I can press trigger, at a paper plate with 5 hits. Just for fun, paper plate out to 50 yards and take my time, happy with 3 hits out of 5 shots. I cannot shoot a GI 1911 that well.
 
A couple of weeks ago, 20 shots from two different j-frames; my 60, then my 36, alternating, at 7 yards. The one in the 9-ring and the 4 in the 8 are fast double-action with the 36. The rest are single-action, about 2 seconds between each shot. Winchester 130gr JFP, non +P. I trust my j's to work when I might need them. I'm 69, and my hands shake a bit, so I'm not unhappy.

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This is my drill for my J frame & LCP: Using a standard paper plate empty the gun as fast as possible, reload & repeat. The goal is to keep all of your rounds on the plate @ three, five & seven yards. I slow down a bit as distance increases but I'm not concerned w/tight groups.

This really is the best answer. J frame snubbies are not meant to be slowly cocked and carefully aimed. The only time you may be able to do so would be in the woods, and if you practice shooting enough, single action revolver shots from any barrel length should be able to be put into a snake head at 10 feet. Everyone who carries a DA revolver in any capacity should be able to shoot DA and hit a paper plate at 21 feet. That's all you need to be able to do with it.

Sure, practice to the point where it's second nature and you can hit whatever you may need to hit within 25 yards. But in an actual self defense situation the odds are it won't get uncomfortable until the threat gets within 7 to 10 yards. Situational awareness and cunning can go a long way.

Honestly if I've got a 21 foot lead on a threat, I'm trying to GTFO of there before I'm drawing down with my Model 36. Odds are better I get away first.
 
Anything inside the 8 ring of a B8 target at 25 yards. Just because you have a little gun doesn't mean that Murphy won't show up at the other end of the grocery aisle at Kroger and you've got no place to go.
 
2 shots in center mass on IPSIC target at 10 yards in 2 1/2 seconds from the pocket starting in the surrender position.

Done well, the shots will be in a 4" diameter circle.

This is pretty challenging (for me, at least).
 
Snubbie Accuracy

Standard factory ammo:

3 yards- all shots in face/head area
7 yards- all shots center mass
15 yards- all shots inside "Kill Zone" of B-29 target
25 yards- all shots in chest/abdomen area

***accuracy is primary
** speed will come with practice
* close range fight-concentrate on front sight (helps if front sight is painted a bright color)
 

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