Which 3 would you choose?

[PurpleMountainOutdoors]

So many of you may have heard that California may become "shall issue". This would be a great victory for gun rights for all citizens obviously.

Let's assume hypothetically that if California starts issuing CCW's like free states, it may not be as bad a place to live, and you're thinking about moving there. Maybe you got offered a great job, or your wife wants to move there, or you have family there. Whatever it is, hypothetically you are now moving there.

So currently the "may issue" rules stipulate that you can only have 3 guns on your permit that you can carry. You are also limited to 10 rounds, as that law is not changing anytime soon.

Which guns do you choose?

I'm thinking something small; something medium for most normal days; and something bigger, for use outdoors or worse areas of town.


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[Changeling]

I'll totally believe it when anything positive comes out of California, LOLAL.

 

[PurpleMountainOutdoors]

California has a LOT to offer. It does however have stupid gun laws, and high taxes.

There are MANY good people there, that love the state, but hate the politics.

This is why the law change could be a really great thing for a lot of people.


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[petepeterson]

The 3 that currently cover 98% of my needs:

Kel-Tec P3AT
S&W 442
S&W 3913

I have others that fill the rare gaps, but these 3 stay loaded in the safe.

 

[tompehret]

Model 19-4 2.5"
Any 1911 A1 .45
Colt Pocket Hammerless .380 (for formal occasions)

 

[Dayvid23]

I would carry my old reliable Hi Point 9 mm truck/range gun. That way when they change back their minds in a minute, and dog pile on me and take it away, I won't feel so bad.

 

[skypilot7103]

9mm shield 1st, 2nd and 3rd choice.

 

[Rastoff]

So currently the "may issue" rules stipulate that you can only have 3 guns on your permit that you can carry.

This is not quite true. The state law makes no reference to how many guns may be on your license. It just so happens that the standard CCW form only has three places for listing guns.

The actual limit is up to the issuing agency. For example, in Kern county, where I live, we are allowed to have up to 10 on our license. It used to be just three, but they increased it last year.


To answer the question though:
1911 5"
1911 4.25"
M&P .45 full size

The issue of only 10 rounds is not an issue with these guns.

 

[Smitty357]

Colt 1911 in .45

Shield .40 or 9mm

Springfield XDS .45 or 9mm (<<I cant believe i just typed that)

In that order, and there should also be no issue being limited to 10 rounds with any of the above.

 

[pharmer]

I'd go with the 6906 I been carrying for 20 years, I'd have to get the 10 rd mags I sold awhile back. Next or backup, 640 .38spl. Both would be loaded with "approved" ammo which hasn't been ruled upon yet. I guess I'd carry the H&K USPc .45 if the other two quit, but I shudder at the thought. Joe

 

[BAM-BAM]

In S&W

3913/14..... 7+1 w/ flush fit mag. and 1-2 8rd mags as spares

3" 66 6 .357/38+P w/ 2 Safariland speedloaders

Beretta
92 Compact Type M....... single stack 92 compact 8+1 of 9mm

or

Sig
245 6+1 .45 (can use 8rd 220 mags as spares)

 

[Modeler]

First off, there is no way that I would ever move to California. I don't even like going there to visit.

Having said that, if my state was suddenly taken over by Californians (which is slowly happening, BTW...) and I could only have three carry guns on my CHL and a 10-round limit I would have:

M&P45
M&P9c
Ruger LCR .38+p

 

[Jaysq]

So many of you may have heard that California may become "shall issue". This would be a great victory for gun rights for all citizens obviously.

Let's assume hypothetically that if California starts issuing CCW's like free states, it may not be as bad a place to live, and you're thinking about moving there. Maybe you got offered a great job, or your wife wants to move there, or you have family there. Whatever it is, hypothetically you are now moving there.

I'm thinking something small; something medium for most normal days; and something bigger, for use outdoors or worse areas of town.
/QUOTE]

Maybe a Bodyguard for small pocket carry, The Shield for every day and a 3913 for a larger gun.

Keep in mind that bad things happen anywhere, not just in the worse areas of town, so you always want to be prepared. I think the Shield would cover you with only one gun.

 

[old&slow]

Let's assume hypothetically that if California starts issuing CCW's like free states, it may not be as bad a place to live, and you're thinking about moving there.

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OK ,,, pot smoking is Only legal in a couple states that I know of.

So either put down the doobie, or you have fallen and bumped your head really hard and need medical help.

 

[RETSMSGT]

I would only go to Commifornia if I were incarcerated or kidnapped!

 

[Jaysq]

OK ,,, pot smoking is Only legal in a couple states that I know of.

So either put down the doobie, or you have fallen and bumped your head really hard and need medical help.

Now that is funny right there.... If you can't laugh at this you may as well go to the house.

 

[hangnoose]

A LITTLE MORE SPLAININ PLEASE

Is that ONLY 3 hanguns in total or only 3 cc type guns? Example would a 6+" 22 target pistol, or a 7 1/2 " 44 mag single action (neither a c/c gun) count? If 3 total FOR ME: Sig 220 stainless 45 acp with a 22lr conversion, a J frame 640, Sig 239 in 9mm.

 

[PurpleMountainOutdoors]

9mm shield 1st, 2nd and 3rd choice.

Nice


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[PurpleMountainOutdoors]

OK ,,, pot smoking is Only legal in a couple states that I know of.

So either put down the doobie, or you have fallen and bumped your head really hard and need medical help.

Lol, it is a nice place to live if the politics weren't so left. It used to be republican there. I think it might be heading in that direction again.

Notice I said "in that direction"...


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[PurpleMountainOutdoors]

Is that ONLY 3 hanguns in total or only 3 cc type guns? Example would a 6+" 22 target pistol, or a 7 1/2 " 44 mag single action (neither a c/c gun) count? If 3 total FOR ME: Sig 220 stainless 45 acp with a 22lr conversion, a J frame 640, Sig 239 in 9mm.

Only 3 ccw. You can have as many as you want, but on the ccw permit you can only have three you actually carry.


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[90crvtec]

My choices would be as follows.

1. M&P340 (or sub in a 442 in a pinch). One must always have a good J frame at the ready.

2. M&P 9c/Glock 26, whichever you may already have. Both have long-ish barrels for a sub compact (3.5 inch) and both are relatively light in their class for being double stack and being able to take higher capacity full size mags (although this is a moot point in California)

3. M&P45 midsize/compact or XDm 3.8 compact. For when you want to carry big bore or just feel like carrying a larger firearm.

Other than the J frame, I'm not really settled on one gun in any category. I actively carry all the guns listed above and I find them all to overlap so they are basically interchangeable within their own class.

 

[Rastoff]

I would only go to Commifornia if I were incarcerated or kidnapped!

This kind of comment is unnecessary and completely off the grid for a thread like this. Also, unless you're lying with your screen name and badge, you know good and well that you would have gone to CA had the USAF assigned you to Edwards, Travis or any number of bases here when you were on active duty.


Yes, CA has some terrible gun laws and some idiot politicians. The problem isn't that the politicians are anti-gun; most aren't. What they are is pro-vote. If gun enthusiasm were popular, all of them that are proposing all this gun legislation would turn 180°. Why? Because they don't care about the legislation, they just care about getting votes. So, they think that by enacting more gun laws, they'll get more votes. So far they've been right.


CA is actually a nice place to live. While the rest of the country is freezing, I'm out at the range shooting Trap and my pistols. And, there is more to life than guns.

 

[Yiogo]

Smith and Wesson Model 41
Smith and Wesson Model 637
Any 1911
Yiogo

 

[jlrhiner]

The 3 I carry now.

1) Kimber Tactical Ultra CDP (98%+)
2) S&W 696 (1.42%)
3) S&W 36 DAO (.29%)

 

[shouldazagged]

M640 no-dash, .38 Special
M10-5, 4".
I already have those two.
Glock 19 or 23

 

[PurpleMountainOutdoors]

This kind of comment is unnecessary and completely off the grid for a thread like this. Also, unless you're lying with your screen name and badge, you know good and well that you would have gone to CA had the USAF assigned you to Edwards, Travis or any number of bases here when you were on active duty.





Yes, CA has some terrible gun laws and some idiot politicians. The problem isn't that the politicians are anti-gun; most aren't. What they are is pro-vote. If gun enthusiasm were popular, all of them that are proposing all this gun legislation would turn 180°. Why? Because they don't care about the legislation, they just care about getting votes. So, they think that by enacting more gun laws, they'll get more votes. So far they've been right.





CA is actually a nice place to live. While the rest of the country is freezing, I'm out at the range shooting Trap and my pistols. And, there is more to life than guns.

A voice of reason


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[sac-gunslinger]

And, there is more to life than guns.

That's why we have Nevada next door......

 

[Kentucky Dave]

CA CCW is not limited to 3 guns and is not limited to 10 rounds.

Many Sheriffs might not want to squeeze in another gun on the 3 lines provided; it can be done and was done on mine years ago when I carried up North.

I also carried a Glock 19 with hi-cap magazine. You can own the ones you had, just can't buy any more. That's why I bought some hi-cap mags for guns I didn't even own at the time, but knew I'd probably buy down the road, like my Glock 23.

IF I could put only 3 on a new CCW if & when (Puh-LEEZ happen!!!):

Kahr P45 in .45 ACP
Glock 23 in .40 S&W
S&W Model 49 in .38

CA Penal Code 26175(i) Any license issued upon the application shall set forth the
licensee's name, occupation, residence and business address, the
licensee's age, height, weight, color of eyes and hair, and the
reason for desiring a license to carry the weapon, and shall, in
addition, contain a description of the weapon or weapons authorized
to be carried, giving the name of the manufacturer, the serial
number, and the caliber. The license issued to the licensee may be
laminated.
26200. (a) A license issued pursuant to this article may include
any reasonable restrictions or conditions that the issuing authority
deems warranted, including restrictions as to the time, place,
manner, and circumstances under which the licensee may carry a
pistol, revolver, or other firearm capable of being concealed upon
the person.
(b) Any restrictions imposed pursuant to subdivision (a) shall be
indicated on any license issued.

IF no restrictions are listed, you are only restricted by existing Federal and/or State law (i.e. Airports, Post Office, etc.) Schools are NOT off limits if the permit doesn't say so.

626.9. (a) This section shall be known, and may be cited, as the
Gun-Free School Zone Act of 1995.
(b) Any person who possesses a firearm in a place that the person
knows, or reasonably should know, is a school zone, as defined in
paragraph (1) of subdivision (e), unless it is with the written
permission of the school district superintendent, his or her
designee, or equivalent school authority, shall be punished as
specified in subdivision (f).
(c) Subdivision (b) does not apply to the possession of a firearm
under any of the following circumstances:
...
(l) This section does not apply to a duly appointed peace officer
as defined in Chapter 4.5 (commencing with Section 830) of Title 3 of
Part 2, a full-time paid peace officer of another state or the
federal government who is carrying out official duties while in
California, any person summoned by any of these officers to assist in
making arrests or preserving the peace while he or she is actually
engaged in assisting the officer, a member of the military forces of
this state or of the United States who is engaged in the performance
of his or her duties, a person holding a valid license to carry the
firearm pursuant to Chapter 4 (commencing with Section 26150) of
Division 5 of Title 4 of Part 6, or an armored vehicle guard, engaged
in the performance of his or her duties, as defined in subdivision
(e) of Section 7521 of the Business and Professions Code.

There is a LOT of BS floating around about what CCW is and isn't in California. Don't make it any worse than it is by making stuff up.

 

[Kentucky Dave]

Is that ONLY 3 hanguns in total or only 3 cc type guns? Example would a 6+" 22 target pistol, or a 7 1/2 " 44 mag single action (neither a c/c gun) count? If 3 total FOR ME: Sig 220 stainless 45 acp with a 22lr conversion, a J frame 640, Sig 239 in 9mm.

He's talking about a CCW permit, not a permit to own. Your specific carry guns go on the permit. Target guns (unless you really want to carry one concealed) are irrelevant.

 

[Rastoff]

CA CCW is not limited to 3 guns and is not limited to 10 rounds.

Like I said earlier, the issuing authority can limit the number of guns on your license if they want. Most limit it to 3 because that's the number of lines on the standard license. Here in Kern, we can put more on the back. Another county, I don't remember which, sets that limit at 5.

While it's true that you can carry mags with higher than 10 capacity, most new shooters don't have this option. Also, it is possible to get an exemption to own/carry mags with higher than 10 capacity. I don't recommending carrying mags with more than 10 because the hassle you'd get isn't worth it.