Yes. Go to Budspolicesupply.com and on their home page you will find out who qualifies.
Which .380 to get for CCW.
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Yes. Go to Budspolicesupply.com and on their home page you will find out who qualifies.
Hiflyer141
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I just needed another CCW!
I just purchased a Bodyguard 380. Next is go to the range!! I also have a Taurus TCP which has its problems but not mine looked on the web and did a ramp polish and a fluff and buff and no problems!! So I bought one for my daughter.
Taurus TCP for my Daughters 21st Birthday! - Page 3
I will advise on my testing of the Bodyguard going to the range in the morning. I believe I will be very satisfied!!
Regards,
Norman
I just purchased a Bodyguard 380. Next is go to the range!! I also have a Taurus TCP which has its problems but not mine looked on the web and did a ramp polish and a fluff and buff and no problems!! So I bought one for my daughter.
Taurus TCP for my Daughters 21st Birthday! - Page 3
I will advise on my testing of the Bodyguard going to the range in the morning. I believe I will be very satisfied!!
Regards,
Norman
Qualifications for first responders is quite long!
Police, security, firemen, private detectives, current or former military, there's a lot of ways to qualify. In fact if I wasn't prior military I'd join my local volunteer fire department just to get the discounts....
The Sigp238 is the best 380 I have fired. I did not like the Ruger LCP. My wife also owns a Bersa Thunder 380. It's never FTL or FTF for her in over 2000 rounds. She is very accurate with it and it's inexpensive at under $300.
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I have the S&W BG380, I have never had an once of trouble with it. I Love the gun. Very well made but what do you expect with it it is a S&W
Chefjon
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Honestly, I wouldn't go with a .380 at all these days as a primary carry weapon. I've been seeing independent ammo tests that have penetration consistently coming in @ 7-11" using IWBA protocols. That's with the new "Modern Ammo Design". I think that phrase was developed just to sell guns,if you ask me.
I'm assuming the desire here is for pocket-carry. I'm looking into that as well and I'm pretty sure I'm going to go with a snubbie. The 442/642 doesn't fit my hand (I have paws) so it's probably going to be an LCR in .38+p. My reasons are:
With any pocket-pistol, the name of the game is TRAINING. It takes a very different set of skills to employ correctly, regardless of gun type. I recommend watching the pocket-pistol series on Ruger's YouTube channel and seeking out a pro as well.
Tactical Pocket Pistol Tips -- Introduction - YouTube
A .380 is better than nothing, but I don't trust it myself. YMMV. Good luck to you and your son. Stay safe.
I'm assuming the desire here is for pocket-carry. I'm looking into that as well and I'm pretty sure I'm going to go with a snubbie. The 442/642 doesn't fit my hand (I have paws) so it's probably going to be an LCR in .38+p. My reasons are:
- In a sub-20ft encounter, I don't think 2 extra shots make up for a lack of penetration. The BG will be on an adrenaline dump, just like you.
- There are fewer things to go 'wrong' with a revolver under these circumstances. Gross motor skills may be all you have.
- Speed-strips are more concealble than mags and are very effective if you train with them.
- Most importantly (for me), 90 grains of JHP just can't compare to 158 in a similar form factor.
With any pocket-pistol, the name of the game is TRAINING. It takes a very different set of skills to employ correctly, regardless of gun type. I recommend watching the pocket-pistol series on Ruger's YouTube channel and seeking out a pro as well.
Tactical Pocket Pistol Tips -- Introduction - YouTube
A .380 is better than nothing, but I don't trust it myself. YMMV. Good luck to you and your son. Stay safe.
Erich
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No problem with adequate penetration from .380 ball, tho. As I've discussed here before, I've seen cases in which .380 JHPs failed to adequately penetrate to effect the desired result . . .
Badkarma 1
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Rather partial to either the SIG P230 or 232 myself. Deadly accurate, and very reliable.
But vastly prefer the Makarov in 9x18! Dale
But vastly prefer the Makarov in 9x18! Dale
In my opinion, the only reason to carry a .380ACP is because a small gun is all that can be carried. Once the move is made to big .380 pistols like the SIG P230 and Bersa Thunder, one would be better served by carrying a small 9x19 of equal or smaller size. My choice in a gun bigger than my Kahr P380 is a 9x19 Kel-Tec P11. It is the size and weight of an Airweight J-frame (but thinner), and offers twice as many shots, plus one.
As usual, opinions are like a**holes; everybody has one!
I have not had any trouble with my Body Guard 380. I carries nice in my front pants pocket with an Uncle Mike's pocket holster. I carry Hornady Critical Defense ammo and luckily have not had to shoot anyone with it. Hope I never do.
I have not had any trouble with my Body Guard 380. I carries nice in my front pants pocket with an Uncle Mike's pocket holster. I carry Hornady Critical Defense ammo and luckily have not had to shoot anyone with it. Hope I never do.
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I also have a Glock .40 for home defense but I carry a S&W BG 380 because it (1.) is tiny and easier to conceal for which I have 3 Galco holsters, each for a different type of carry need; and (2.) that it is not a striker-fired pistol therefore harder to have an AD occur as I'm drawing it. The .380 round is adequately deadly (especially the Hornady Critical Duty that I carry) if fired with a modicum of skill and that means practice!. Get as many 2+1 reps in as you can from all your methods of carry and you will do fine. But...the sights on the BG 380 are useless in low light and pushing the laser button takes away from quickest draw, presentation and firing. It's a problem but easily fixed. I love my little Bodyguard and have found it totally reliable if fed well.
OP
Thanks again for all your answers. I have passed it all along to my son, but right at the moment things are a little hectic for him. He will make his decision in a couple weeks.
His wife is having a baby on Tuesday and medical & other things have to be attended to. This will be his only child (a son) and my only grandchild.
I mentioned to him about other guns but he is adamant that it will be the Ruger or the Smith. He said he will look at the Diamondback as mentioned here, but as of now it's down to the two guns mentioned above!
His wife is having a baby on Tuesday and medical & other things have to be attended to. This will be his only child (a son) and my only grandchild.
I mentioned to him about other guns but he is adamant that it will be the Ruger or the Smith. He said he will look at the Diamondback as mentioned here, but as of now it's down to the two guns mentioned above!
lhump1961
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I know I am in the minority...I carry a Walther PPK/S. Not the smallest or the lightest but it is reliable, feels good in my hand and I shoot it well.
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I have a couple Walthers (PPK) and they are accurate for a gun of this type & very reliable, take any ammo I put through them, that includes lead slugs (practice)
I also have a Indian Arms .380 (Stainless copy of the PPK) that I used to carry at times, but its now more of a safe queen.
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I have the PPK/S for winter carry but I do carry the Ruger LCP for summer carry .I like to use the number #1 Uncle Mikes Pocket holster and Fiocchi 95 gr.HP in the LCP
I have about 300 rounds threw it not a he-cup gun runs flawless
I have about 300 rounds threw it not a he-cup gun runs flawless
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I had the LCP but hated shooting it, bit my index finger on the knuckle no matter what I shot through it. Traded it for an SP-101 and finally traded that for my EDC, a S&W M&P 340. Hides just as easily as my LCP and I'd rather have 5 shots of .38 +P (even though it's chambered for .357) than 7 rounds of .380. Just my humble opinion, YMMV.
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I did here more then one complaint on the trigger guard and the shooting finger on the LCP.
I yet to run into any problems as far as the gun feeling uncomfortable.The most rounds I did fire were a box of Fiocchi HP bullets at 3-7-10 yards
two hand hold combat shooting: I will agree the sight are not the best but the Gun is designed for self defense were most gun battles are in the 7 yard range:at that distance the LCP is a point and shoot gun
I yet to run into any problems as far as the gun feeling uncomfortable.The most rounds I did fire were a box of Fiocchi HP bullets at 3-7-10 yards
two hand hold combat shooting: I will agree the sight are not the best but the Gun is designed for self defense were most gun battles are in the 7 yard range:at that distance the LCP is a point and shoot gun
Hiflyer141
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Got to range with the BG!
After 50 rounds the elevation screw was gone!! Called S&W and new screw on the way! Of Course trigger pull is still hard even after I have put it in traction see pic!
So Far I like my Taurus TCP more for it's trigger pull and CCW! It's just a bit smaller and lighter!
I will keep on working with the BG and even go so far as to break it down and cut some coils from the trigger spring! We will see!!
After 50 rounds the elevation screw was gone!! Called S&W and new screw on the way! Of Course trigger pull is still hard even after I have put it in traction see pic!
So Far I like my Taurus TCP more for it's trigger pull and CCW! It's just a bit smaller and lighter!
I will keep on working with the BG and even go so far as to break it down and cut some coils from the trigger spring! We will see!!
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