Who do you tell you have a CHP?

Hey guys if you don't mind too terribly can we save the inform/don't inform debate for another thread?
 
It occurred to me that because I’m on the church security team where I’m at now that more folks in this church know that I carry than did in the church I left last year.

That said it’s self evident that these guys (almost all of whom are gun guys) don’t make nearly the issue of it that Mr. Gunz”r”cool did.

My sister in law has attended this church for several years and I don’t think it’s ever occurred to her that our security guys might be armed and I’m certainly not going to be the one to break the news
 
I only tell my wife, and only when she asks.

Anyone else says anything and I always give them the same answer:

"Well, I'm usually carrying except when I'm not.

...And I have been known to lie about it."
 
We used to live in the Washington DC area about four miles from the Pentagon and the day after 911 as I was dropping my wife off in a cloud of black smoke coming off the Pentagon and as the radio was playing "We gotta get out of this place," we decided to pull up roots and move to a small town nestled in a hollow in the West Virginia mountains. We never regretted that decision. The only real problem we've run into here is that some of the locals apparently don't approve of interracial marriages, I'm an American Indian and my wife's a white Italian. We've had trash thrown in our backyard, obscenities written on the windows of our vehicles and fires lit on our front porch. We've called the police who of course did nothing and apparently act as stormtroopers for the "very religious" people in town, so we got our carry permits and ever since I let it slip to my neighbor that I carry a gun, the trouble's stopped.
 
if they ask, I politely tell them that the question is akin to me asking him what size breasts his wife has....

asked how many guns I own. My answer was "just the one" and then told him that polite gentlemen did not discuss things such as how many guns you own, or how much money is in your checking account.

I like your answers. I use a version of your answers that makes reference to the size of someone's genitals. I think your answer is kinder and gentler and I would like to use it, if you don't mind. Of course, any use of your phrase with be properly referenced and cited IAW APA standards. :D

My kids (teenage and early adult age) have been admonished never to discuss what guns Mom or I may be packing. Still, my oldest girl likes to use my past law enforcement experience to weed out undesirable suitors. Several of her friends are still scared to come over to the house....and I'm a beat-up old fat guy. ;)
 
I think that telling people that you have a permit or not is not nearly as important as whether or not you tell them you are carrying.

Some people will absolutely flip-out into hysterics if they find out you actually have a gun on you.

The license from the government you have in your wallet does not matter to them. for some people, the idea of another person owning a gun, or even taking the gun to a shooting range is not too bad, but the idea of actually carrying a loaded handgun in daily life is completely abhorrent. They will assume you are a criminal if you carry regardless of the permit.

Keep it discreet
 
Unless I'm asked by an LEO or am forced to draw to save my bacon, it's nobody's damn business if I'm carrying, much less if I have a CCW license (I don't like the term "permit"). Seems pretty simple to me.
 
If/When a friend that I talk guns with asks if I carry, I confirm that I do. I won't lie about it... But it's kind of a "Don't Ask - Don't Tell" category.

Normally, the only ones that have asked, have been friends that are considering getting a CHL themselves, then they proceed to ask the same 'newbie' questions we see (and answer) here every day.

My Wife (and those who do know I carry) pretty much knows that if we go someplace and I don't order an alcoholic beverage, I must be carrying.
 
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I don't really tell anyone when I am carrying. My wife may or may not know but there is no reason to broadcast it. Yiogo
 
What is the CHP you all are talking about?
I hate acronyms. The OP should have stated it like this in the first place: Concealed Handgun Permit(CHP). This way every time CHP is used later, there is no ambiguity.

Other acronyms you may see along these lines are:
CCW: Carry Concealed Weapon
CHL: Concealed Handgun License (This is what it's called in Texas)
CFL: Concealed Firearm License
CWL: Concealed Weapon License
CFP: Concealed Firearm Permit
CWP: Concealed Weapon Permit
 
I think that telling people that you have a permit or not is not nearly as important as whether or not you tell them you are carrying.

Some people will absolutely flip-out into hysterics if they find out you actually have a gun on you.

The license from the government you have in your wallet does not matter to them. for some people, the idea of another person owning a gun, or even taking the gun to a shooting range is not too bad, but the idea of actually carrying a loaded handgun in daily life is completely abhorrent. They will assume you are a criminal if you carry regardless of the permit.

Keep it discreet

True story, I went to get my DL renewed about a year ago, the clerk wouldn’t accept my DMV issued driver’s license as valid ID (makes you wonder doesn’t it?) so I handed her my CHP.

Long story short the counter worker asks me a few questions about concealed carry and the licensing process and such. I even stated a couple of times that I never go anywhere unarmed.

When we get done she goes to take my picture and tells me I have to remove my jacket. So, I tell her I can’t because OC is prohibited in the building.

She gets all deer in the headlights on me and says “You mean you’re carrying a gun right now? I had just spent 5 minutes explaining the CHP process to her and had explicitly stated that I never went anywhere unarmed and she still didn’t get it.
 
NEED TO KNOW?

I guess you just don't get it. showing a stranger your chp as a form of ID cuz you don't have your dl (drivers license) handy IS NOT keeping it on the dl (down low). You didn't have a credit card with your name on it? I had a blow hard at a lgs bragging how he had hundreds of guns and thousands of rounds of ammo at home yesterday. I just said thanks for that info, now I know who to follow home and whose house to rob when you are away.
 
Maybe it because within my circle of friends a concealed firearms permit is the norm or maybe it is Utah thing; but, it just doesn't ever come up in conversation. Of course I hang out with a bunch of gun people and we do talk about are newest gun, are old favorites, loads, holsters, days at the range, etc. Other than when at the range when some was practicing I can't recall anyone ever showing, displaying or otherwise mention the handgun they were carrying even when we were talking firearms.
 
I know a few that have a permit and probably several that don't talk about it.The funniest has to be the 80 year old family friend that wanted to show me his carry gun last year.It was a 99% Colt 1908 hammer less :-)
 
Until recently most of the people in my circle were church friends but not necessarily “gun people” and I have had some really bad experiences telling people that I have a CHP to the point that now I simply don’t do it.

It’s been my experience that once you let that knowledge out you lose all control over it. Right after I got my CHP I made the mistake of telling a friend who proceeded to share that information with a third party that I wouldn’t have told. He actually piped up in the middle of a conversation the three of us were having with “Smoke’s carrying a gun right now.” Luckily the comment went right over the third guy’s head.

I also made the mistake of telling another friend from church who then proceeded to tell everyone in his circle because he thought carrying guns was “cool” and that knowing someone who carried a gun made him “cool” even though he never got his CHP. When I explained that I had shared that with him in confidence and would rather he didn’t pass it along he told me it was better that people knew because they’d feel more “comfortable”. I’ve avoided him since.

My wife told our daughter who also dropped it into a third party conversation in the form of ‘Don’t mess with my mom man, she’s strapped.” although she did have enough sense to listen when her mother asked her never to do that again.

About a year ago my wife and I changed churches and when we did so we decided that unless anyone we met at the church we attended now had a legitimate need to know that we had our permits it wasn’t something we were going to share

So my question is do you tell people that you have a permit or do you not and why?

Most of my friend's know, I kind of give it as a common courtesy if I'm entering their home armed.

I also usually let anyone know who is riding in my car with me. This came about after one of my friends went to place her cell phone in the centre console and freaked out upon seeing a 9mm.

Of course, the culture is a bit different here in Indiana, at one point the subject came up in one of my 400-level crim classes while I was on study abroad, it turned out that of all the people in the class (granted, it was a small class), only the instructor and one student don't have a handgun permit. I conceal it when I'm out and about most of the time, but really anyone who knows me knows I have it.
 
I guess you just don't get it. showing a stranger your chp as a form of ID cuz you don't have your dl (drivers license) handy IS NOT keeping it on the dl (down low). You didn't have a credit card with your name on it?

Perhaps I didn’t make myself clear enough, when I presented my DL (at the DMV) they (the very people that issued said DL to me) the clerk told me that they would not accept a DL as ID and that I must present another form of official ( a credit card wouldn’t do) ID.

The clerk stated that acceptable documents included a CHP or an MMJ card. All I had that they would accept was my CHP.

Other than that one instance,I do not use my CHP as ID ever
 
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