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Rintimtin
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Everyone Ready, OK Here we go. Time to get our Hell on Wheels ON!
Who else is looking forward to "HELL ON WHEELS" tonight.
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Please no updates, I DVR'd it. Mods DELETE this thread!
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Please no updates, I DVR'd it. Mods DELETE this thread!
I can not make any promises for any of the other memebers, but you got my word.
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The first season starts out a little slow, but it gets much better in a short time.
Last night's show was very hard to follow. and it's looking more like a soap opera than late night tv.
Peter M. Eick
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I will watch it a bit more. I was interested in more about the actual building of the railroad. It seems to me that they spend too much time on the interactions of the characters and not enough on the actual Railroad and the key details of building it.
Having walked many many miles of the old UPRR 1868 grade across wyoming, you find many little bits of indications where the camps were, where meals were made, forges were run along with the actual original rail and spikes. The wood is long gone, but the old link and pin couplers can still be found occasionally. Kind of need to see 150 year old history laid out there.
Having walked many many miles of the old UPRR 1868 grade across wyoming, you find many little bits of indications where the camps were, where meals were made, forges were run along with the actual original rail and spikes. The wood is long gone, but the old link and pin couplers can still be found occasionally. Kind of need to see 150 year old history laid out there.
Wee Hooker
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I have a love hate thing going with this series. I think the story has great potential and once and a while a decent level of storyline and action but it's plagued with breaks in continuity and characters.
IMHO, it's a HBO "Deadwood" wanna be that never will.
IMHO, it's a HBO "Deadwood" wanna be that never will.
Well,I'll bet a box of rimfire ammo that it's the Lois Lane character. ;-P
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I'm no engineer, but I find it curious that the railway seems to be constructed in the same manner as the tracks for a Lionel train--the sleepers laid directly on the ground with no ballast and a space between the roadbed and the tracks.
ohiojerry
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If I hadn't watched the first two seasons, Saturday's show certainly wouldn't have pulled me into it. Hopefully things improve.
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El Bib,
I walked the old UPRR grade for miles a few years back and what they did was build up the grade from nearby soil so you dragged it up with scoops and horse teams with scoops to form the grade that maintained the level track. Obviously to minimize the amount of dirt work, they would snake the grade around and slowly follow the contour lines to raise it up at an acceptable rate.
They would then lay ties, and pile available fill material (more dirt or gravel if available) in between the ties, but commonly the ends hung out in space. Finally they would bring the rail and ties.
What is very unique about the UPRR Rail is that it had cutouts for the heads of the spikes and the spikes themselves are notched up under the head to fit those holes in the rail. If this feature is original I don't know but every spike I handled has it.
The only piece of original rail I found was out in central utah in the back country. I found it down a hillside where it must have fallen off and was not cleaned up by the scrappers. My understanding is most of the original 1860's grade was scrapped out for steel in WWII.
There are not many pictures that show the real details of the track so this is just my perception from having walked the line and read the arch books.
I will say that the line was moved several times. In the area I worked, they completed it in 1868, realigned in 1881, 1890, 1901 and again in 1910 if I remember the details right. Only the original 1868 is considered historic and has to be protected so my job was to help sort out which one was which and make sure all of the arch's and surveyors agreed. We also had the compound problem of the Lincoln highway went down part of the same grade (heck might as well type of attitude) so we had two arch sites for the price of one.
I walked the old UPRR grade for miles a few years back and what they did was build up the grade from nearby soil so you dragged it up with scoops and horse teams with scoops to form the grade that maintained the level track. Obviously to minimize the amount of dirt work, they would snake the grade around and slowly follow the contour lines to raise it up at an acceptable rate.
They would then lay ties, and pile available fill material (more dirt or gravel if available) in between the ties, but commonly the ends hung out in space. Finally they would bring the rail and ties.
What is very unique about the UPRR Rail is that it had cutouts for the heads of the spikes and the spikes themselves are notched up under the head to fit those holes in the rail. If this feature is original I don't know but every spike I handled has it.
The only piece of original rail I found was out in central utah in the back country. I found it down a hillside where it must have fallen off and was not cleaned up by the scrappers. My understanding is most of the original 1860's grade was scrapped out for steel in WWII.
There are not many pictures that show the real details of the track so this is just my perception from having walked the line and read the arch books.
I will say that the line was moved several times. In the area I worked, they completed it in 1868, realigned in 1881, 1890, 1901 and again in 1910 if I remember the details right. Only the original 1868 is considered historic and has to be protected so my job was to help sort out which one was which and make sure all of the arch's and surveyors agreed. We also had the compound problem of the Lincoln highway went down part of the same grade (heck might as well type of attitude) so we had two arch sites for the price of one.
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The Chinese immigrants building the RR from the West coast were much more productive and caused less problems but that doesn't make for a good TV show. The new female, a reporter, not very interesting.
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Was it just me, or were there an a lot of very long commercial breaks? Seemed it would just start again, and there would be another commercial. Hard to follow a story like that.
Usually a show has a lot of short breaks, or a few long breaks. This episode had a lot of long breaks. Ed
Usually a show has a lot of short breaks, or a few long breaks. This episode had a lot of long breaks. Ed
Okay, think I am about a third of the way into season 2.
The blonde Englishwoman is a big time bosom heaver and sigher. Heaves and sighs at the drop of a hat.
"Madam, a cup of coffee?" Major bosom heave and sigh. "Why yes, thank you."
The bald black guy, running around under the sun with no hat the first season, well, that struck me as unlikely. The top of his head would blister off in two days! Second season the man practically goes to bed with a hat on, I guess showing his socioeconomic progress.
Those Indians look mighty pale.
Taking off a guy's head with a single swipe of a cavalry saber seems pretty unlikely. (They were intended to break bones.)
It ain't history and it ain't art, but I guess it is entertainment...
I wish there was more about building the train track, too.
Harrumph. Sorry guys, I am probably just in a critical mood at the moment.
The blonde Englishwoman is a big time bosom heaver and sigher. Heaves and sighs at the drop of a hat.
"Madam, a cup of coffee?" Major bosom heave and sigh. "Why yes, thank you."
The bald black guy, running around under the sun with no hat the first season, well, that struck me as unlikely. The top of his head would blister off in two days! Second season the man practically goes to bed with a hat on, I guess showing his socioeconomic progress.
Those Indians look mighty pale.
Taking off a guy's head with a single swipe of a cavalry saber seems pretty unlikely. (They were intended to break bones.)
It ain't history and it ain't art, but I guess it is entertainment...
I wish there was more about building the train track, too.
Harrumph. Sorry guys, I am probably just in a critical mood at the moment.
