Fishslayer
US Veteran, Absent Comrade
I can't argue with "a 22 on you is better than a 44 back home in the safe."
"10 .22 HP COM > 1 .44 Magnum slug in the floor"

I can't argue with "a 22 on you is better than a 44 back home in the safe."
Frankly, I don't find the argument "I don't see people lining up to get shot with a 22/25/380/9mm" to be very persuasive.
If that is your stance, then you should logically a) argue that a pellet gun is an acceptable self defense weapon, or b) let me shoot you a few times with a pellet gun. I, for one, have no desire to be shot with anything including a 22, a pellet gun, a rubber band, or a spit ball. I don't think that makes them acceptable to defend hearth and home though.
This is better than a bear thread![]()
Baby Face Nelson was shot 17 times with 45acp and OO buckshot. He was still able to kill two law enforcement officers and drive away, where he died.
I just thought I'd bring that up. I've been saving it since I saw it on TV.
As to dave75's statement that that air rifles and firearms are apples and oranges, you, sir are mistaken. The means of propulsion is irrelevant. A projectile makes a hole based on size, weight, and velocity (or doesn't make a hole). Now, I may be reading too far in, but are you volunteering to get shot with one? Regardless, it is your business what you choose to carry. If you are comfortable with it, then that really is none of my concern because I don't pay a price if you are wrong.
Ok well you are most certainly entitled to your opinion, but when we are talking about fighting firearms I really don't consider an airgun in that category since fighting firearms generally fire a centerfire cartridge....hence my statement that it was apples and oranges...so no I don't consider myself to be incorrect.
And I had to go back and read my statement again, don't see how you misread that I would willingly be shot with a weapon....but each to their own. MY WHOLE POINT TO MY JOCULAR DECLERATION WAS IN RESPONSE TO THE ORIGINAL POSTERS PERSONAL OPINION ABOUT OFFERING SOMEONE THE CHANCE TO BE SHOT WITH A "SUB-CALIBER" FIREARM...most people make that comment because of PEOPLE WHO WANT TO SAY ONE CALIBER IS SO MUCH BETTER THAN ANOTHER, AND THOSE PEOPLE ARE USUALLY THE ONES WITH NO EXPERIENCE. As far as conflict being chaotic, well that is the nature of the beast and that is why we train. So you sir are wrong in stating that "It would seem to me to be unwise to make a decision based on an assumption of what you think will happen", that is the whole basis of combat training and the reason for stress inoculation. Now that is my opinion, but that is based upon my own experience...my training....The mindset of the warrior is far more important than what he has in his hand.
Lets talk about getting shot with a broad tip hunting arrow from a compound bow.
I think those razor blades scare me more than a bullet!![]()