The anti's are a spunky bunch aren't they? 
Why I don't Open Carry
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Just that attempted disarms in that particular context occur relatively frequently irrelevant of whether it was successful or not. Open carry in any context carries with it a higher risk that someone will try to take that weapon from you. That's been my point all along, maybe I didn't make that clear. For me, the risk is simply too high and why I would advise against open carry. If someone comes to a different conclusion, that's their choice and they are free to do so.
You're trying to compare military operations in a hostile environment to a civilian with a barbecue rig?
Well he had a good point as poorly as he initially framed it. If someone knows you have an item which can kill you faster than bare hands, of course theyll go for it. The possibility if that happening much less being successful? No studies on that which have been shown.
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These links sure have been informative.
Knowledge is power and it liberates! Now I'm going to feel much safer hanging out with armed thugs smoking cigs on the street corner at 2AM.
Knowledge is power and it liberates! Now I'm going to feel much safer hanging out with armed thugs smoking cigs on the street corner at 2AM.
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JohnHancock
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Wow, this thread got heated since last I checked it! As for me, I was raised with firearms and have owned them practically all my life. My old man lives in a rural area and won't check his mailbox without a large OC. When I visit him or go hunting, I also OC and I'm proud to have the ability to do so. Luckily I live in a state in which many of the Dems are even pro-gun! However, I live and work in the city with a large number of transplants and a fair amount of crime.The element of surprise combined with the risk of alarming some mamby-pamby transplant keeps me CC. Besides, my wife, who was raised by a father who regularly OCed, says I look like a "goober" when I OC.
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keith44spl
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Boys, this here thread's got legs!
Although, I open carry and conceal carry (bug) I ain't never been
jumped, mugged er robbed nary a time, in my entire life.
And, I never looked down my nose at others for any reason,
lit'l on for carrying a sidearm any which way they chose to do so.
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Although, I open carry and conceal carry (bug) I ain't never been
jumped, mugged er robbed nary a time, in my entire life.
And, I never looked down my nose at others for any reason,
lit'l on for carrying a sidearm any which way they chose to do so.
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mustangman
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Sorry I'm late, did I miss anything?
. Here's my 0.02 for what its worth.
The Bloombergers don't care about banning OC, CC, or whatever carry, they just want your guns. They want an opening, and "divide and conquer" is the way to do it. Nothing could help or please them more than infighting in the pro 2A ranks.
Personal opinions about how some choose to carry is irrelevant and should be put aside for the good of all gun owners. These laws help everyone that owns a gun, not just a certain subset.
If pro gun laws aren't moving forward, then they're going backwards, and next thing you know, you're battling for CC, or whatever type of carry they can sink their teeth into.
We should all be "pro gun", and let the individual decide for himself. Everyone bemoans the lack of personal responsibility that permeates this country, well here's a chance to let people do that without being infringed upon by anyone.
. Here's my 0.02 for what its worth. The Bloombergers don't care about banning OC, CC, or whatever carry, they just want your guns. They want an opening, and "divide and conquer" is the way to do it. Nothing could help or please them more than infighting in the pro 2A ranks.
Personal opinions about how some choose to carry is irrelevant and should be put aside for the good of all gun owners. These laws help everyone that owns a gun, not just a certain subset.
If pro gun laws aren't moving forward, then they're going backwards, and next thing you know, you're battling for CC, or whatever type of carry they can sink their teeth into.
We should all be "pro gun", and let the individual decide for himself. Everyone bemoans the lack of personal responsibility that permeates this country, well here's a chance to let people do that without being infringed upon by anyone.
Reggie Dunlop
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It matters not if the fellow was stupid, many stupid people open carry and that is what's troubling, and it matters not if his gun was not loaded, his open carry made him a target of opportunity.
You can spin this any way you like but you can not deny the fact that a person who was open carrying had his weapon taken.
Mainsail
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So how would you spin the concealed carriers whose guns get taken? Oh wait, everyone who isn't showing a gun openly is a potential concealed carrier, and they get robbed on a daily basis.
So if open carry makes you a target, and concealed carry makes you a target, and no carry makes you a target; do you ever leave your basement?
EDIT to add: By the time you finish reading this post, another person not carrying openly will be the victim of a violent crime. Maybe it's no so black-&white.
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If this is the story I'm remembering, from Last Year, this guy was not actually 'Open Carrying' as we're discussing the term. According to one telling of the story, Yes, he was carrying the gun 'openly', but it was being 'carried' in the manufacteror's box, not in a holster and showing it to a friend, when they were approached by the perpetrator and robbed.
So... Does that actually count as an 'Open Carry' encounter?
Reggie Dunlop
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So how would you spin the concealed carriers whose guns get taken? Oh wait, everyone who isn't showing a gun openly is a potential concealed carrier, and they get robbed on a daily basis.
So if open carry makes you a target, and concealed carry makes you a target, and no carry makes you a target; do you ever leave your basement?
EDIT to add: By the time you finish reading this post, another person not carrying openly will be the victim of a violent crime. Maybe it's no so black-&white.
Exactly the type of spin (bs) we expect. Good job!
Edit to add: By the time you finish reading this another selfish person open carrying wil make a spectacle of themselves and continue to give all gun owners a bad name. Thanks a ton.
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Guys... guys... you're wasting your breath. It would appear we've got a couple of folks here who've been drinking the liberal Bloomberg cool-aid.
They are citing the "Truth (actually LIES) About Guns" site as their source for goodness sakes! What does that tell you? Logic isn't going to work in this case.
They are citing the "Truth (actually LIES) About Guns" site as their source for goodness sakes! What does that tell you? Logic isn't going to work in this case.
Last week I was waiting for a haircut at a Great Clips when a man finished his haircut and stood up and his holstered pistol became visible. I thought he would immediately put his jacket on which would have concealed it but he didn't. I made the assumption ( maybe not correct ) that he likely had a carry permit so was legal. I think most people in the waiting room saw what I saw. He then paid and sat down to wait for the woman he was with to finish. Amazingly he sat with his back to the door when he could have sat near me with my back to the wall. He did not appear to be in any way alert to his surroundings. My wife came in to see when I would be done and she saw his gun in his open top holster by the door and said she could have easily snatched it.
No one in the shop seemed concerned and nobody called the cops. This was in a town right next to the town that I described in starting this discussion. Interesting contrast to the other situation.
No one in the shop seemed concerned and nobody called the cops. This was in a town right next to the town that I described in starting this discussion. Interesting contrast to the other situation.
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To the contrary, stupidity matters.
Standing on a street corner at 2AM smoking cigs and chatting with armed street thugs is stupid. It's begging for trouble and making yourself a target. Doesn't matter if you're carrying a gun or not.
Anyone not understating this reality, there's not enough bandwidth to explain it.
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LimaCharlie
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Oregon has open carry but allows local governments to restrict it. He was in Multnomah County which allows unloaded guns to be open carried. He had bought the .22 that day and was showing the unloaded gun to his cousin out of the box. Stupid? Yes. Open carry? No.
keith44spl
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Originally Posted by Reggie Dunlop
Edit to add: By the time you finish reading this another selfish person open carrying wil make a spectacle of themselves and continue to give all gun owners a bad name.
Be sure to provide us with pictures.
Yes, by all means Reggie, we like pictures here.........
Oh, if you see a feller wearin' this rig up there in the great pacific northwest....
Tell him Ol Dave sad hey!!!
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I'm sure the good people of Multnomah County sleep better at night knowing OC armed robbers are carrying unloaded guns. If they would also outlaw robbery then Mr Coleman might still have his gun to carry around in the box at 2AM while he's hangining out on street corners smoking cigs with armed thugs.
I might have to rethink the arguments about OC. The evidence in these links is quite compelling.
I might have to rethink the arguments about OC. The evidence in these links is quite compelling.
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