Why in the world would S&W send the FPC out without open sights?

[Execpro]

Iron Sights for 9mm carbine

There are a number of iron sights for this gun. Just Google.
Price runs $30-$50. I like a good peep sight. Just Sayen.

 

[Pisgah]

Two reasons:
-- they are building to a price point; and,
-- they know 90% of buyers would replace whatever super-cheapo sighting arrangement they'd use, given reason #1.

I say, good call. For no more than $50 I can add a nice set with an adjustable peep.

 

[alwslate]

Good iron sights, ghost ring and rugged steel front, both on the barrel, are free with the Ruger. No need to have to spend extra money to make the gun useable after you buy it

 

[Mike-AK]

I put Magpul MBUS flip-up sights on mine along with a Holosun HS503. I only paid $549 for my FPC. Why pay extra on top of that to have some junk sights from the factory when I can install what I want for 80 bucks? The MBUS sights are visible through the bottom third of the optic, and the larger aperture works fine in spite of the distance from it to the eye. I think I will drill out the smaller one since I have no use for a small aperture, and it would save an extra step when deploying the flip-up BUIS.

 

[Kestrel]

For the folks with the MBUS (or comparable) flip up sights; can anyone take a measurement to see how far above the rail they sit when folded down ?

 

[Equus]

What kind of sights do you want?

AR-15 style front sight permanently attached to the barrel?

Fixed front and rear from Daniel Defense?

Plastic Magpul Gen 3 folding front and rear sights?

Plastic Gen 2 folding front and rear sights sights?

Metal front and rear sights from Midwest Industries Combat Rifle Folding Sights?

Metal folding HK style front and rear sights from Troy Industries?

How about offset folding front and rear sights from Ultradyne?

I am just listing a few of the aftermarket types of sights that will easily attach to the FPC. Regardless of what type of sight S&W would chose someone would post complaints about it.

This….literally. Most modular type firearms no longer come with sights because many will just remove them for a red dot of some sort.

 

[hardluk1]

Old darn treads ...............

 

[Imissedagain]

For the folks with the MBUS (or comparable) flip up sights; can anyone take a measurement to see how far above the rail they sit when folded down ?

On the 6920, it sits about 21/32" above the rail.
Highest point is the round part at the aft starboard
side of the sight.
Ebony grips from '79.
Putting the T36 back on later to test some 70gr Sierras.
Need to find a good quality five round mag, that sits close
to flush, for offhand shooting.
Never in stock when I search.
Maybe today.

 

[smoothshooter]

That makes it a non starter for me. Just buting cheap sights will set one back $100 on top of the gun price. I DO NOT want a red dot, green dot or any kind of dot on a folding carbine that is gonna do truck duty under the rear seat.

It also has way too many sharp edges and corners that would snag on, ding, gouge and scratch any other hard surfaces it would come into contact with. Absolutely no aesthetics at all.
Has all of the appeal of a bumper jack; even worse than the HK 91 and 93 military rifles.

 

[hardluk1]

On the 6920, it sits about 21/32" above the rail.
Highest point is the round part at the aft starboard
side of the sight.
Ebony grips from '79.
Putting the T36 back on later to test some 70gr Sierras.
Need to find a good quality five round mag, that sits close
to flush, for offhand shooting.
Never in stock when I search.
Maybe today.

Not looking in the right places for those 5 round mags . They both run fine in the family Ar15's for bench rest or hunting needs .

Just a moment...

AR15 5RD 5.56/.223 BLACK STAINLESS DURAMAG C PROD

 

[Imissedagain]

Thanks hardluk1

Do those Duramags fit flush and are they Ten rounders
that only fit Five?

Have Magpul 10 rounders on the way.
They sit proud a bit but were all I could find.
Will work for now as I shoot offhand Smallbore style.

Even drew up a forearm design mod for my 870 SuperMag that lets me keep my hand, in the same position as my BT99, for those Trap loads.
I move the hand forward for 3.5" HV Blasters.
Don't have a SxS or O/U now, but the ROs let me take a second shot to try and break a big piece if it ain't smoked, as sometimes we get to have fun.
XFull chokes.

 

[hardluk1]

I learned to shoot a rifle with my weak hand gripping well down the rifle's stock or FFT at a young age . But seems like a flat bottom 10 or 20 round mags would work well for stand if you using a shooting jacket and can restrict or control movement like seen at the NRA WSC matches .

I consider grasping the front of the mag well to be a short range defensive practice like if your clearing a house . good luck

 

[Imissedagain]

The Ruger SR22 contraption, came sightless.
Put an old Bushnell 3-9x wide angle on for the kids, and now grandkids.
Removed the very heavy and ugly forearm and hold it with
the left hand under the magwell. Five round rotary mag.
Will give Duramag a call and get specs on their 5 rounder.

Pics of offhand position and short mag AR15.

 

[Imissedagain]

Duramag said it sticks out about a half inch or so.
They advised to get the 10 round mag as the 5 round
uses the same body.

Will make some stocks for one of the 6920s.
Not a fan of the newer OEMs.
An A2 variation in wood will be nice.
Pic from '81 of '79 Sporter showing the other side of the ebony grip.
It moves from AR to AR as necessary including the SR22.
Slight rotation eases up with the wrist bend.

For a 9mm rifle, a BHP with buttstock and tax stamp?

 

[bigfoot7262]

I don't think you can get a rear peep sight back far enough on the handguard rail like you can on a railed AR receiver. For me if the peep sight isn't close enough to my eye to 'ghost' out, it's useless I put a reflex sight on mine and may mount one of my flip up front sights as a backup. I've found on rifles that have good consistent cheekwelds a front sight only will get you on target in a pinch.

Like many others I already had a spare optic so any flip ups S&W might have provided would have gotten pulled. A short rear picatinny rail molded into the receiver for a rear flip up would have been nice. But as I get older I find my eyes are having a harder time with irons so more and more of my long guns have optics.

 

[Mike-AK]

The ghost ring leaf on the Magpul BUIS is plenty big to see through on the FPC with it mounted on the rail behind my Holosun. I didn’t want to have to deal with the hassle of flipping down the small aperture whenever I wanted to use the irons so I just drilled it out the same diameter as the ghost ring aperture. Works great.

 

[Ameshawki]

As others have said, most of the buyers for this will swap out whatever sight it comes. That's simply the market today.

Also note, virtually no bolt action hunting rifle comes with sights anymore and hasn't for decades.

 

[Well Armed]

As others have said, most of the buyers for this will swap out whatever sight it comes. That's simply the market today.

Also note, virtually no bolt action hunting rifle comes with sights anymore and hasn't for decades.

Yes, it makes sense for them to to charge customers for something they're not going to use anyway.

 

[Kestrel]

I'm glad that S&W didn't ship with sights - one less thing to throw in a drawer. It would most likely have been cheap, and wouldn't have fit w/ my setup.
I was able to do some research on many available options and purchase exactly what I wanted.

And BTW, the ghost ring works great (the pic did have the correct orientation before the forum upload. :-/)

 

[AirborneStranger]

Wait

I put Magpul MBUS flip-up sights on mine along with a Holosun HS503. I only paid $549 for my FPC. Why pay extra on top of that to have some junk sights from the factory when I can install what I want for 80 bucks? The MBUS sights are visible through the bottom third of the optic, and the larger aperture works fine in spite of the distance from it to the eye. I think I will drill out the smaller one since I have no use for a small aperture, and it would save an extra step when deploying the flip-up BUIS.

You are just talking MBUS when saying $80 right? Because if not I need your connects on a Holosun HS503 and MBUS sights all for $80 lol