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Why we should dump “casual” from our vocabulary.
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My closet is filled with cargo shorts and T-shirts. I own one pair of long jeans, which I wear all three days of winter here. Not a suit in the house. I'm old and retired and don't care what others think of my attire.
LVSteve
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I've always hated neckties. I heard too many stories from my East End family of how they can be a liability when the fight starts. My working environments have been largely is science and engineering. I didn't necessarily know from one day to the next if I was going to be sitting at a computer, soldering circuit boards, or wielding power tools. A lot of the time I dress to be invisible. Judging by the time I was mistaken for a local in a rather foreign country, I must be quite good at it.
I spent 38 years as telephone Tech. My normal attire was Wranglers and Chambry blue shirt. Been retired 35 years come Aug. No pics as I don't want to break the camera.
It takes all kinds. Heck, I've got customers that wear suits and ties, some that wear shorts and flipflops, some that wear pajamas, and one that sometimes wears a Superman cape. They all get treated the same way.
I haven't worn a tie to work in years now. Used to love my Jerry Garcia ties, but times change.
I haven't worn a tie to work in years now. Used to love my Jerry Garcia ties, but times change.
Up until the last 5 years or so of my main career we had to wear a suit and tie every day. Even though I never saw a customer, and supervised a crew of mechanics, millwrights, and construction contractors.
Hair had to be trimmed to not cover your collar or more than the top half of your ears, no beards allowed, mustache couldn't extend down lower than the corners of your mouth. No earrings or other piercings for men and no visible tattoos.
5 years before retirement the relaxed the dress code to slacks & a collared button-down shirt. Then right after I retired they relaxed it even further to jeans and polo shirts. Long hair, beards, earrings for men, Fu-manchu mustache are all OK.
Times have changed. Young folks won't dress to the same standards from decades ago. Wearing a tie is a deal-breaker for them. You want to hire qualified young people, that kind of dress code just doesn't work.
Hair had to be trimmed to not cover your collar or more than the top half of your ears, no beards allowed, mustache couldn't extend down lower than the corners of your mouth. No earrings or other piercings for men and no visible tattoos.
5 years before retirement the relaxed the dress code to slacks & a collared button-down shirt. Then right after I retired they relaxed it even further to jeans and polo shirts. Long hair, beards, earrings for men, Fu-manchu mustache are all OK.
Times have changed. Young folks won't dress to the same standards from decades ago. Wearing a tie is a deal-breaker for them. You want to hire qualified young people, that kind of dress code just doesn't work.
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One word; "Standards". Either up or down depending on your individual situation, employer, etc.
And there are those that dress too far up........like the Real Estate agents we have here in Sydney. Expensive looking suits, cars, office furnishings,......... all to give off that impression of success.
Maybe I've gone more than one word. Sorry.
And there are those that dress too far up........like the Real Estate agents we have here in Sydney. Expensive looking suits, cars, office furnishings,......... all to give off that impression of success.
Maybe I've gone more than one word. Sorry.
When I was working I had a very hard time accepting the idea of "casual Friday." I guess I was just old (school).
On my last job, the first day I came in the senior partner came around and said that I should always come to work in a coat and tie because I became the utility man off the bench to handle the court appearances that the more experienced litigators couldn't cover because there could be a lot of court appearances all over the state of Maryland on any given day.
But 4 days after I retired, I went back to the lunch meeting of the local bar association for the first time in 14 years (a long story). Everybody else was there in their suits or other proper office/courtroom attire, and I was there in jeans and my late father's red flannel shirt. I think everyone else was jealous.
On my last job, the first day I came in the senior partner came around and said that I should always come to work in a coat and tie because I became the utility man off the bench to handle the court appearances that the more experienced litigators couldn't cover because there could be a lot of court appearances all over the state of Maryland on any given day.
But 4 days after I retired, I went back to the lunch meeting of the local bar association for the first time in 14 years (a long story). Everybody else was there in their suits or other proper office/courtroom attire, and I was there in jeans and my late father's red flannel shirt. I think everyone else was jealous.
The last time I adhered to a dress/grooming code was AFR 35-10 in 1975.
Now Ruthie lays out my clothes. Take it up with her.
Now Ruthie lays out my clothes. Take it up with her.
I dress appropriately to what I am going to be doing and have never considered how it looks to anyone.Function over form is how I live.
StrawHat
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I read lots of comment similar to “I don’t care how I look”.
I think that is a reflection on the times.
I still work for a living. I wear a button don shirt and dress slacks, my boots and belt are polished, my hair is clean and neat. My customers appreciate it and it shows. Others in my trade dress… less neatly. It shows.
Two years ago we moved to a new town. The little church we attend does not have a dress code. Folks wear what is comfortable for them. We are a farming community. The variety can be amusing.
I find attire as well as other standards are being weakened. I am not a fan of lesser standards.
Kevin
I think that is a reflection on the times.
I still work for a living. I wear a button don shirt and dress slacks, my boots and belt are polished, my hair is clean and neat. My customers appreciate it and it shows. Others in my trade dress… less neatly. It shows.
Two years ago we moved to a new town. The little church we attend does not have a dress code. Folks wear what is comfortable for them. We are a farming community. The variety can be amusing.
I find attire as well as other standards are being weakened. I am not a fan of lesser standards.
Kevin
I was required to wear a dress shirt and tie up through high school (parochial) and meet corporate dress codes when I was working.
Now that I'm retired, I still maintain high standards and almost never leave the house without pants.
Now that I'm retired, I still maintain high standards and almost never leave the house without pants.
I spent almost 8 years as a pharma rep. Every day suit and tie, one outfit required the jacket be worn any time entering a Dr's office, often at "synergy meetings" (telling each other how great we are. Nowadays different. Joe
Yes it is sad. I drop my stepson at school sometimes and the kids literally are wearing PJs. My wife however doesn’t allow it. She “adores glamour “ as she puts it. My son is of the same ilk. Perhaps it’s his military career but his hair is always perfect. His pants and shirt never have a wrinkle. He wears a Rolex and shoes with manufacturers I can’t pronounce lol. He always says when you look good you feel good. When you feel good you play good. As Andre Agassi said “Image is Everything”.
Early in my career it was dress shirt, slacks, and tie. Even though I was an engineer that never saw a customer. Casual couldn't come quick enough.
The building guys have been messing with the a/c, now it doesn't work correctly. Shorts today.
The building guys have been messing with the a/c, now it doesn't work correctly. Shorts today.
I'm getting older and the times they are a changin.
I had jury duty last week. There were about 200 citizens summoned to form three pools.
I was shocked to see that the crowd (mob) looked and dressed like they were in a Wal-Mart check out line.
During my career, the Superior Court had a very strict dress code. My position demanded that I always have a suit and tie immediately available to address any public official.
The tide has apparently changed.
As far as the OP's photograph, I can hear my dad saying "That goofball needs to buy a dang razor!" He preached the 1935 white-sidewalls haircut look. No exceptions. He even shaved twice a day, seven-days a week, 5am then at 5pm.
You had to look presentable and civilized at the supper table.
I sure miss him.
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I had jury duty last week. There were about 200 citizens summoned to form three pools.
I was shocked to see that the crowd (mob) looked and dressed like they were in a Wal-Mart check out line.
During my career, the Superior Court had a very strict dress code. My position demanded that I always have a suit and tie immediately available to address any public official.
The tide has apparently changed.
As far as the OP's photograph, I can hear my dad saying "That goofball needs to buy a dang razor!" He preached the 1935 white-sidewalls haircut look. No exceptions. He even shaved twice a day, seven-days a week, 5am then at 5pm.
You had to look presentable and civilized at the supper table.
I sure miss him.
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You can put a tuxedo on a goat. But it's still a goat . . .
We’ve evolved into an age of in-eloquence…… not sure if that’s a word. But it works here.
