Will somone either loan me three hundred bucks or talk me out of the M&P 40s that are out there.

65-2x2 said:
Actually I don't like to borrow money, so just send me the money. I am a good guy and I deserve it.

Are these police trade-ins a good deal? I have seen them at $239.00 (plus shipping and FFL fees) .40 cal must be even less popular than I thought.
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Yes, they are a great deal. They are so cheap, I bought several just to experiment with, having no experience with the M&P. Four M&P40's and two M&P9's later, I haven't received one in bad shape yet. Night sights are probably dead, so you can factor that into the ownership cost if working night sights are important to you, but starting at under $250 the guns are still a great deal.

I was around for the mass purge of police revolvers in the late 80s/early 90s, when you could pick up a S&W Model 66 dumped by some police department for $150. Adjusted for inflation, these M&Ps are far cheaper. Get them while they last. The stampede of departments to rid themselves of .40 pistols may have some rational basis in cost, improved 9mm ballistics, etc.; but for individual ownership the caliber is just as functional as it was all the years when it dominated the police market. A lot of goofydoofs on the internet post a lot of emotional bile about .40 S&W, and maybe that helps suppress market demand and makes these surplus deals so cheap. Again, get them while you can! Eventually, as with police revolvers today, people will be scratching their heads and asking where all the $239 M&P40s have gone.
 
Just an observation; in person, talking to people who dislike or talk trash about the .40 S&W have never even shot one.
Same seems to ring true on the interwebs.
People can search my history/posts. I own/shoot about every caliber.
I'll CCW a 10mm, 40 and 9 at any given time. Just depends on what gun fits for the occasion. Not a 40 fan boy. I just know enough that it will win matches and put down bad guys.
 
65-2x2 said:
Actually I don't like to borrow money, so just send me the money. I am a good guy and I deserve it.

Are these police trade-ins a good deal? I have seen them at $239.00 (plus shipping and FFL fees) .40 cal must be even less popular than I thought.
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I'd say most of them are. Any more, unless you got unlucky and got the one the firearms instructor carried and shot the snot out of, most are going to be relatively low round count. Maybe someone when they the academy with the gun. But on the other hand, maybe not $239 plus tax and shipping is a lot cheaper than buying y a new Glock or M&Ps, or possibly more reliable and easier to find parts, accessories, or holsters for the than some of the similar price point bargain brand.
 
I have M&P .40 in Full and Shield. Have to say, recoil is marginally higher than 9's, but nothing a little more hand/grip strength can't solve. I have several 9's(HK, Glock, Taurus), but I love shooting the .40's. Add an MCarbo trigger spring kit and you'll fall in love like I did. Never giving them up.
 
1500 rounds won't beat up anything, but it's known amongst competitors still dealing with the ghost of Jeff Cooper (Major power factor) that .40 is harder on the gun. If you can't tell the difference in recoil I don't know what to tell you.
 
I bought a M&P 40 full size when they first came out and it was my EDC for 5 years. I bought a 9mm barrel for it and still shoot 9mm and 40 out of it when I go to the range. I got 9mm mags for the 9s, but tried the 40 mags to see if they would work and they did. I wouldn't sell it for anything and would buy more if I could get them at that price. I only went to a Sig P-365 for my EDC because I'm an old man who had back surgery and found that the full size M&P 40 fully loaded was getting difficult to carry. Ammo cost is no different than 9mm because I'm reloading with components I stocked up on before the price gouging started.
 
The M&P40 police trade-ins represent an outstanding value. You're getting a top quality semiautomatic pistol chambered in a cartridge which is statistically more powerful than 9mm and even standard pressure .45 ACP at a fraction of the price.

.40 S&W is an awesome cartridge which just has a bit too much recoil for some folks and costs just a bit too much per round for bean-counting bureaucrats. So it isn't popular anymore and the haters love to remind everyone at every available opportunity that "9mm is just as good with modern technology because the FBI says so!" Great, not sure how that makes .40 S&W a bad cartridge exactly, but there you go.
 
Echo40 said:
The M&P40 police trade-ins represent an outstanding value. You're getting a top quality semiautomatic pistol chambered in a cartridge which is statistically more powerful than 9mm and even standard pressure .45 ACP at a fraction of the price.

.40 S&W is an awesome cartridge which just has a bit too much recoil for some folks and costs just a bit too much per round for bean-counting bureaucrats. So it isn't popular anymore and the haters love to remind everyone at every available opportunity that "9mm is just as good with modern technology because the FBI says so!" Great, not sure how that makes .40 S&W a bad cartridge exactly, but there you go.
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It's not a great cartridge, mostly because of the recoil and cost of ammo. I didn't much care for mine since it did not meet my accuracy standards either. It's possible that changing the barrel might have cured that problem, but wasn't interested in spending any more on it due to the other issues. If it was all that I had would I throw it away? Nah
 
Tabby Lynn said:
It's not a great cartridge, mostly because of the recoil and cost of ammo. I didn't much care for mine since it did not meet my accuracy standards either. It's possible that changing the barrel might have cured that problem, but wasn't interested in spending any more on it due to the other issues. If it was all that I had would I throw it away? Nah
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Your opinion on recoil is just your opinion.
As posted, women and not so masculine men, struggle with 40, 10mm and up.
The price difference is only a few dollars difference per box.
Your accuracy standards are a matter of opinion also.
 
toddstang said:
Your opinion on recoil is just your opinion.
As posted, women and not so masculine men, struggle with 40, 10mm and up.
The price difference is only a few dollars difference per box.
Your accuracy standards are a matter of opinion also.
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You are absolutely correct, opinions are an individual thing. Us women and as you so stated, not so masculine men much prefer to be able to place bullets exactly where we want them to go, time after time. Of course He Men like you much prefer to punish yourself and hopefully if you are lucky, the bullet goes where you want it to go after suffering through several heavy recoils. Good luck to you and your, He Man brethren.
 
Tabby Lynn said:
It's not a great cartridge, mostly because of the recoil and cost of ammo. I didn't much care for mine since it did not meet my accuracy standards either. It's possible that changing the barrel might have cured that problem, but wasn't interested in spending any more on it due to the other issues. If it was all that I had would I throw it away? Nah
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If you cannot handle the recoil of .40 S&W, that's perfectly fine, but it's a "you problem," not a .40 S&W problem. Doesn't mean you're wrong to choose something else, just maybe not qualified to give general advice on the merits of the cartridge. Many of us have no problem with the recoil, and the used M&P40s the OP asked about are great pistols at a great price.
 
Tabby Lynn said:
You are absolutely correct, opinions are an individual thing. Us women and as you so stated, not so masculine men much prefer to be able to place bullets exactly where we want them to go, time after time. Of course He Men like you much prefer to punish yourself and hopefully if you are lucky, the bullet goes where you want it to go after suffering through several heavy recoils. Good luck to you and your, He Man brethren.
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Far from a He Man. But also far from skinny jeans and a man bun.
BTW, my wife and daughter have no problems shooting 12 bowling pins off the target stand with any of our 40's. Not one complaint about recoil. Well, until we break out the S&W 686P, then it gets spicy.
 
Took my Ruger Alaskan 2" out yesterday along with my m&p 40. 5 rounds of 454 followed by 5 rounds from the m&p. Def not impressive recoil wise. Been shooting my Delta Elite since it first hit the market no problem recoil wise. If the 40 is too much, get you a Ruger Wrangler, but in 22lr, the 22wmr might be too much for you.
 
Tabby Lynn said:
Why don't all of you supposed he men, grow up. Your comments only show your childish attitude.
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You brought your opinion to an open forum.
You received our opinions in return.
You are the person that is acting out, like a spoiled child that didn't get their way.
Either way, hope you enjoy the rest of your day.
 
Tabby Lynn said:
Why don't all of you supposed he men, grow up. Your comments only show your childish attitude.
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What have you got against He-Man and the Masters of the Universe anyway?

She-Ra was one of them too, you know!

Wait, don't tell me... You're with Skeletor, aren't you?!
 
I bought a police trade-in M&P a while back. I think I paid just under $300/shipped for it. The cop who carried it must've been a desk jockey or was obsessive about his pistol, because I couldn't find any evidence of use other than a slightly scuffed feed ramp.

I added Speed Sights, an Olight Bladr, an Apex trigger, removed the mag safety disconnect, and picked up a 9mm conversion barrel (which I recently sold). I realize that I could've just bought a 2.0 for about the same money, but I was able to build the pistol I wanted on my own timeline. Overall, I think the M&P 40s are a great value at the prices mentioned earlier.
 
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