Would you load a Scandium J-Frame with .357 Magnum rounds??

Yes...the recoil is tough, but manageable. I use Winchester Silvertips because they seem better suited my particular gun. Very little muzzle flash in comparison to other factory loads. The lighter weight bullet (145 grain?)cuts back the recoil when compared to 158 and 180 grain rounds. Despite this, shooting 5 rounds at panic speed will make your hand sore for several days. Feels like your bones are being chipped after about the third round.

Despite my complaints, it is my favorite carry gun due to light weight and power potential. I have found the weapon to be just as accurate as all other S&W revolvers. Shooting full power loads will cause even veteran shooters to flinch.

Andy
 
Originally posted by Quattro15:
I've not shot magnum rounds through my 360PD as I've heard the ballistics isn't much better than .38 Special +P rounds through such a short barrel.

Would anyone here ever load .357mag rounds in such a light little revo?

If you would do this please explain why.

Thanks!!
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NO!
 
I shot one cyinder full of Speer 158 grn gold dot .357 though my 60-9, and it sucked. I could not get reasonable follow up shots, and I'll be sticking with .38's out of the J frame. According to many case studies by our own member Erich, stopping power of .38's out of a J frame is real good.
 
No, I would not load one with 357 rounds. Instead, I would practice with +P 38 Special and carry with a +P+ 38 Special.
 
shawn mccarver My M&P 360 is carried with 125 grain Gold Dots{.357 Magnum} and actually chrono'd 1200FPS!!!!! A handful, but manageable. The 140 grain Lever-Evolution clocked 1150FPS!!!!! Oh Baby!!!! This isn't fun,but it is do-able. My question to you would be why would you buy a .357 Magnum J-frame and not want to shoot Magnum loads through it? Have you put this gun and the perspective loads on paper? I have and the light loads shoot LOW. The Heavy loads shoot to point of aim for me at 15YDS. Just curious......S-prefix
 
With the stock bantam grips, or boot grips, shooting .357 gold dots in my M&P 340, my trigger finger gets badly battered by the trigger guard. With longer grips like the monogrip or UM combat grips my little finger is able to keep the gun from rotating up and gives me a lot more control. So for me it is a choice between a little less concealability with the longer grips or a little less power with +P rounds.
 
LOGIC, HUMOR, AND HUMAN NATURE . . .

Personally, I see no reason for S&W to even make those things . . . other than they make fine "collectables" and conversation starters . . . good "safe queen" virgins.

However, it is NOT a well-conceived product for the true purposes of making a perfect gun for a situation.

Sure, it's size makes it an excellent pocket gun. Then again, so is an Airweight at 5 oz.more.


THE PERFECT USES OF J-FRAMES . . .

--IMHO, the 15 ounce AIRWEIGHT is fine for pocket carry, and a perfect pocket carry "border line" for a "stout" .38 Special, non +P load!

--And a STEEL frame J-frame is a perfect "border line" pocket carry revolver for a .38 +P load . . . yet too heavy for true conceal ability at all times.

--A ten ounce AIRLITE J-frame (empty)? A perfect "border line" revolver for a .32S&W load fer folks a little "light" in the britches.



MORE CONCEALABLE STILL?
A ten ounce handgun is great for putting in the pocket of a pair of gym shorts with a stretch waistban, or a jock strap or a bra.
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However, my wife will notice the huge bulge in my jock strap if I try to conceal a J-frame in there too!

I might fool her though, with little plastic 10oz. Keltec P-32!
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Humorously yours,

T.

PS: Feel free to continue the Airlite + .357 Magnum debate. POPCORN ANYONE?
 
I have a J-frame scanduim revolver in .357 with a titanuim cylinder. Thats why the recoil is horrendes because it is to damn light. I also have the newest one with the steel cylinder and it is a not to bad recoil but, you best have a strong grip hand though. And my other one is the 386 nightguard series 7 shot scand with steel cylinder. Now thas a fun gun to shoot .357 out of compared to my other 2 scand. revolvers. But otherwise,I will stick to the steel guns for .357 shooting. rz625-8
 
I have. It wasn't pleasant. I installed a stainless cylinder, and it helped a bit. I was using the GDHP SB 135 gr. loads in .357 mag.
 
Ive had my 340pd for a year now. Ive shot nothing but 158gr 357 with the CT 305 grips. I can now shoot all 5 rds at 12yrds 5inch group or less in 10 secs or less. So I have to assume when you say follow up shots you mean you dont want to execute one. I understand this is not for everyone but you can become very proficient with this combo if you are so inclined. This is my every day carry combo and I feel comfy with it. Ive said it before you gotta get a little mean when you shoot one of these.
 
Originally posted by tom turner:
LOGIC, HUMOR, AND HUMAN NATURE . . .

Personally, I see no reason for S&W to even make those things . . . other than they make fine "collectables" and conversation starters . . . good "safe queen" virgins.

However, it is NOT a well-conceived product for the true purposes of making a perfect gun for a situation.

Sure, it's size makes it an excellent pocket gun. Then again, so is an Airweight at 5 oz.more.


THE PERFECT USES OF J-FRAMES . . .

--IMHO, the 15 ounce AIRWEIGHT is fine for pocket carry, and a perfect pocket carry "border line" for a "stout" .38 Special, non +P load!

--And a STEEL frame J-frame is a perfect "border line" pocket carry revolver for a .38 +P load . . . yet too heavy for true conceal ability at all times.

--A ten ounce AIRLITE J-frame (empty)? A perfect "border line" revolver for a .32S&W load fer folks a little "light" in the britches.



MORE CONCEALABLE STILL?
A ten ounce handgun is great for putting in the pocket of a pair of gym shorts with a stretch waistban, or a jock strap or a bra.
icon_eek.gif


However, my wife will notice the huge bulge in my jock strap if I try to conceal a J-frame in there too!

I might fool her though, with little plastic 10oz. Keltec P-32!
icon_wink.gif
icon_biggrin.gif


Humorously yours,

T.

PS: Feel free to continue the Airlite + .357 Magnum debate. POPCORN ANYONE?
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Tom,

I have to disagree and agree. It is not the perfect weapon for everyone but I think it is perfect for me. I carry it everyday. Very light and very powerful with Silvertip 357's.

The short barrel length certainly means it is a weak 357 at 25 yards, but, that is better, in my opinion, that a weak 38 Special at 25 yards!

Andy
 
call me Mr. Pu$$y but I ain't gonna shoot anything but 38's out of any Scandiun/titanium J frame-and that's based on shooting 38's out on my 337. I want a no lock centennial in scandiun/titanium construction (a 340 PD or a no lock 342)-but I ain't gonna be shooting .357's out of it
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Originally posted by Quattro15:
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Would anyone here ever load .357mag rounds in such a light little revo?
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Thanks!!
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Yeah, I'd load them into the gun. But I'd be sure never to fire it that way.
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Actually, I have previously fired 10 rds of full house 125 gr Mags from my 340PD. My hand has healed up and i don't plan to do it again.
 
I took a box of 50 .357 rounds to the range when I first bought my scandium 340PD. I planned to shoot them all. I quit after 10. Painful is an understatement. It drew blood between my right thumb and trigger finger. I have it loaded with 38+P now, but will probably flinch the first time I shoot them. No more .357 in lightweights.
 
Admittedly, the 340PD will has a bit of a snap with full house .357 loads. I like my 340PD so much that I bought a 317 .22LR to practice with.

The 340PD is in my pocket right now, loaded with .357 Federal Hydra-Shoks. Both revolvers are fitted with Crimson Trace Laser Grips, and both shoot to the laser dot at 25 yards.

The 340PD is easy to carry, and is as powerful as one could want when trouble comes.
 
I've fired a 342PD (.38 Spl) with various +P loads, and with standard pressure 158gr loads. It is not pleasant, but I'm sure it's better than not using a gun when I'm supposed to.

Although I'm quite sure that a chronograph would show that the first round of .357 out of the barrel would be moving faster than a .38 would, I have no intention of proving it. There are too many useful lightweight .38 Spl guns around (and even in my possession) to go trying to prove that a fleaweight .357 will injure my hand and preclude follow-up shots.

If your hand is stronger than mine and you can fire second and third shots with .357 ammo, go for it. I wouldn't even try.
 
"Yes officer I did miss them - but you will find them because the muzzle blast fire set them on fire!!" fire that short stubbie at night and you will see what I mean - enjoy the full house loads because as you get older you will go back to longer barrell - you CAN conceal a 4" with correct holster rig - I come close to DROPPING my short 640 with 357 and it is A LOT heavier than yours - primary to consider is use what you like and become proficient with it - 1 hit from a 22 is better than 2 misses with a 44
 
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