Would you purchase an M&P even smaller than the M&Pc? Possibly single stack?

[swrdply400mrelay]

SIAP or if S&W has confirmed/denied this (sorry, I don't keep up with the news)

It seems there is a new trend for even smaller guns, and I have especially noticed it with 9mm's.

For example, the Sig 290 and 938 as well as the Ruger LC9 and Beretta Nano.

For concealed carry, would you like to see an even more compact version of the M&Pc (any caliber)?

 

[markush]

I was just thinking yesterday...I sure wish that my M&P40 FS was thinner...Closer to the width of a 1911. I personally wouldn't buy a M&P compact single stack 9mm. If they could thin out the .45 I'd seriously consider it.

 

[swrdply400mrelay]

I was just thinking yesterday...I sure wish that my M&P40 FS was thinner...Closer to the width of a 1911. I personally wouldn't buy a M&P compact single stack 9mm. If they could thin out the .45 I'd seriously consider it.

Sorry, I should have clarified that this would apply to all calibers.

 

[vista461]

I voted no, If the grip was much smaller it would be hard for me to get a good grip. I carry the M&P9c with the flat base mag.

 

[sonofthebeach]

Last Saturday, I bought a competitor's single stack pistol because S&W just doesn't make one (except for the 1911) that fits my hands well.

Tried owning a Sigma, almost bought an SD last week (except for the grip size), and ended up buying a Kahr for this very reason.

A real shame that there are so many gun owners/shooters out here that are looking for a slimmer grip that will accommodate all of their fingers (3rd-pinky), and S&W, Ruger, and others just don't seem to care about that market.

Glocks are sent off for grip reductions, M&P owners are complaining about the size of the CT grips' additional girth on their pistols' frames making the pistols once again too large for their hands, and on and on it goes.

Not all of us are concerned about magazine capacities exceeding 8 rounds, especially those of us who grew up with 5 and 6 shot revolvers.

 

[joes4570]

In a way I kind of did. I bought a Beretta Nova which is a single stack, polymer 9mm. Its getting on towards the level of almost being too small to get a reasonable grip on and isn't nearly as easy to shoot well as an M&P C is.
Ain't no free lunch, smaller size comes at a cost in how easy a pistol is to handle and shoot.
Now personally I wouldn't mind a single stack M&P that was the same height and length as a compact. I don't really care about the extra rounds and 7 or 8 would be enough.

 

[stainless1911]

I open carry, so I dont see the point in, nor do I care for, small guns.

 

[mlk18]

I would be all over a thin single stack M&P. Smith & Wesson was late to get into the .380acp craze and they are way behind schedule to get into the "slim" 9mm craze. Hopefully whatever they finally come up with is worth the wait.

 

[Sinkhole30]

I would seriously have to see how it fits my hand. I'd definitely be interested a smaller single stack M&P but it all comes down to how it feels in my hand.

 

[Maximumbob54]

I have already whined about this several times. I got all excited during the SHOT coverage when I would have sworn that S&W was about to offer a single stack compact M&P45c. I would rather see an offering in the 9mm or .40SW of the same thing though. But it turned out it was an XDm that was made. I'm still waiting for a S&W Kahr killer.

 

[cracker57]

I voted no, I had a M&P 40 FS and sold it to buy a M&P40c (wish I was richer Then I would have kept the full size) I am fairly accurate with the compact and it conceals easy enough. I have come to the conclusion this is the smallest pistol I want. With that said if a smaller pistol fit my hand and I could be accurate with it I might give it a try. Like sinkhole30 said theres no free lunch and if its real small and carrys real easy but I cant grip it to hit what I am aiming at, I might as well throw it at the target.
Cracker

 

[Derosa]

I would buy one. I thought of all the folks that carry snub nose revolvers (me included) and what that really means to me. Concealable. Light weight. Reasonable stopping power with proper shot placement. Six or seven rounds an issue? No way. Remember the snub's capacity. Grip size an issue? Well could be, but, slip on grips are easily available and work for me. I enjoy and value and carry my full size pistol, but, there are times when my snub is better suited in weather and or clothing applications. The market is ripe for S&W to introduce one. It has a proven performer and a strong following. It would be a shame to waste it on waiting. Just a my thoughts.

 

[Deadeye Dick]

Aren't questions no's 2 and 4 essentially asking the same thing? Shouldn't question no.4 read "YES if it were NOT a single stack" or "YES if it were a Double stack"?

If so that would have been my choice.

I currently carry a Kel-Tec P11 (double stack 10+1 rounds) and it is more compact and lighter than the current M&P 9c .

 

[Rangel]

I think that a very small 9mm along the lines of the S&W BG 380, would be a success--I'd buy one. I think that they should offer such with and with out the laser that the BG380 comes with. Like the BG380, I feel a finger/pinky rest extension is very important for most people to effectively control the gun.

You start going bigger than 9mm and you have too many other considerations to worry about. Other companies have done it successfully in 9mm. You get into 40 and 45 loads and besides recoil concerns, the gun has to be built quite sturdy. Small handguns, sturdy, small, thin and reasonably priced, rarely go together well.

Hopefully S&W is working on it and trying to 'get it right'. Somehow, if they DO come up with a subcompact or 'true' compact 9mm, I don't think S&W will tie it into the M&P line, although I hope I'm wrong! It would be sweet!

Some of the most significant advances in semi automatics have been in effectively reducing their size and in improving the performance of the critical defense ammunition they can use. Some experts feel that ammunition improvements have shown the greatest gains overall--again namely with high performance/critical defense ammo. There will always be cheap ammo of questionable performance available.

 

[T-BoneFL]

I voted "No." I do not like guns that are too small, specifically, short length barrels. From my research, the shorter barrels result in slower rounds, and less expansion of rounds. The current 9/357/40 compact frame is sufficiently small and easy to conceal.

If I wanted a pocket gun, I would go with a brand other than S&W.

-T

 

[Capt Crunch]

If you want anything smaller go for the Bodyguard. I just don't like larger caliber's in small guns, they are just wildly inaccurate in the end.

 

[insomniac]

I'm still waiting for a S&W Kahr killer.

yep.

size of my K9 with trigger of M&P would be my perfect CCW.

 

[Fastbolt]

Sure, if they could make something in the M&P pistol line to fill the gap left when they discontinued the CS9/40/45's, I'd probably order at least one of them. After they'd been out in the hands of shooters for 1-2 years.

The CS45 had a 3.25" barrel, the 4513/457 was 3.75" ... but the smallest the M&P 45 goes is the compact with a 4" barrel (making it pretty much akin to the 4513/457, albeit the M&P has 8-rd mags). Maybe a 3.25" M&P 45sc would be a good idea?

The hypothetically half an inch reduction in length of a M&P 9/40sc might not seem like much, but the CS9 felt lighter and smaller in the hand than the CS40/45's.

Maybe they could more easily shoehorn the .40 into a small 9mm frame/slide, unlike when they were having to use the alloy .45 frames for the 4013/CS40 for strength (although the short-lived 4040PD, with its Scandium aluminum frame, for greater strength was the exception ). I'd think the plastic frame concept, utilizing an integral steel sub-chassis and a steel locking block, ought to mitigate such concerns, though.

Nice thought.

I haven't heard anything, myself, but the company has become really good at keeping such new projects under wraps in recent years. They weren't even dropping subtle hints about the M&P until it had apparently been underway for at least 3 years.

Now, if they decide to go the way of the Bodyguard pistol line for a smallish 9mm? I'm not sure that would interest me so much. That's a "busy" little pistol (inside the frame). Not so sure I'd be interested in a 9mm version until they'd really ironed out any remaining kinks.

Maybe a .40 Bodyguard would serve to bring any remaining design weaknesses to the surface ...

 

[stainless1911]

They arent going to beat the XDS.

 

[DAdams]

How about similar to its cousin the Walther PPS in 9 and .40?
Wouldn't it be like that?