Would you return this?

[Gun Relics]

I picked up a very nice Model 28 Highway Patrolman 4" from about 1959. The price was fair and the overall condition of the gun is outstanding. It came with Hogue grips. It turns out the frame had a small hole drilled to mount the grips. Looks like it was drilled by a pro.

It bothers me that this wasn't disclosed. I realize that a 1/8th inch hole in the butt area does not affect the reliability of the frame in any manner, but I bought this one based on condition for my collection.

Maybe I'm just too picky, but would you return it? I will probably keep it but I'm curious if it would bother other collectors.

 

[kev74]

It wouldn't bother me.

 

[s&wchad]

That small hole is for the factory grip pin. Easy enough to replace it.



The larger hole was for the frame machining fixture.

 

[gwpercle]

It wouldn't bother me in the least .
It's a nicely done hole ...
and you can't see it when the grips are installed .
Do you display your guns without grips ?
If you don't ... I wouldn't worry about it .'
Gary

 

[s&wchad]

Is today April 1st???

 

[Gun Relics]

OK

Is today April 1st???

OK I get it. The small hole is a factory hole?

As a moderator, can you please add a donkey emoji? As in "I'm an ass".

 

[Gun Relics]

Do you display your guns without grips ?

They're supposed to have grips?

I may as well go all-in on this tomfoolery

 

[VM]

OK

OK I get it. The small hole is a factory hole?

As a moderator, can you please add a donkey emoji? As in "I'm an ass".

Years ago in a pinch, I made a new pin with an old coat hanger.
(I'd bet the Factory would send you one for free if you called them)

 

[s&wchad]

OK

OK I get it. The small hole is a factory hole?

As a moderator, can you please add a donkey emoji?

Yup, the small hole is for the press-in factory grip pin. That's why the stocks have these little holes!

Hogue stirrups snap onto the pin, so hopefully you still have it. If not, they're easy enough to get.

... and no, we won't be adding a donkey emoji. I'm guessing the average age of our membership is close to 70 and we all occasionally have senior moments!

 

[Gun Relics]

As a tribute to my senior moment, I'm adding these to remind me that grips do, indeed, cover all the little holes. Funny thing is these Culina grips do need that extra pin. My S & W's just stay in place.

 

[Harv 24]

If I had a guess, the seller was oblivious to the fact that it had that larger hole and never saw it, or if he did, never gave it a second thought.

 

[s&wchad]

If I had a guess, the seller was oblivious to the fact that it had that larger hole and never saw it, or if he did, never gave it a second thought.

The larger hole was for the <factory> frame machining fixture.

 

[JeffD607]

That is exactly why I like to see pictures of a gun WITHOUT the grips on. Pictures of listings with the grips still on can be covering the missing pin, re-finish stamps, factory returned stamps, pitting under rubber grips, as well as a cut grip frame to accommodate a set of Fuzzy Farrant grips. I have purchased revolvers that were listed without the grips removed (and a 3 day return period), and the first thing I do is remove the grips and look for any of these situations.

 

[VM]

If I had a guess, the seller was oblivious to the fact that it had that larger hole and never saw it, or if he did, never gave it a second thought.

The larger hole is factory too…. A jig holder

 

[quinn]

FWIW: I bought a gun missing the grip alignment pin recently and discovered that replacing it was not as easy as I though. I found a nail the right size, cut it to length, and rounded the end with my Dremel. Then bent it driving it into the hole. Next, I bough the 1/8 th inch spring clips only to discover I really need a special tool to insert it into the hole. Next, I cut a 1/8th drill bit but found it too hard to easily round the cut portion due to its hardness. Finally, used an under sized nail that I could simply fit into the hole but it does fall out when I remove the grips. Duh

 

[s&wchad]

 

['79 Magnum GT]

Yup, the small hole is for the press-in factory grip pin. That's why the stocks have these little holes!
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Hogue stirrups snap onto the pin, so hopefully you still have it. If not, they're easy enough to get.

... and no, we won't be adding a donkey emoji. I'm guessing the average age of our membership is close to 70 and we all occasionally have senior moments!

The best time for having senior moments is in public. The perfect ice breaker. I've done more than my fair share.

Rick

 

[Truckman]

I'm guessing the average age of our membership is close to 70

We have members that young?......Ben

 

[Dan W. Cady]

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Lightly aged!

 

[madmikeb]

With early Hogues you had to drive the grip pin out and hook a stirrup over the frame, snap a retainer into the bottom of the stirrup and the screw from the grip would go into that.

 

[Doug M.]

Remember that it is entirely possible that the seller, just like you and me, would have had no clue about the holes and not known what Chad told us.

 

[Gun Relics]

Remember that it is entirely possible that the seller, just like you and me, would have had no clue about the holes and not known what Chad told us.

I am sure you're right. Even taking those Hogues off was an adventure, because they look like they're two piece but they are actually one piece.

Well, I had to retract the email I sent the poor guy. He's an FFL - I bet in the gun business, you get used to this unruly sort of behavior.

 

[Pizza Bob]

Hogue stirrups snap onto the pin, so hopefully you still have it. If not, they're easy enough to get.

Not all Hogue mounting stirrups use that pin. Earlier monogrips instructed you to remove the pin and the stirrup fit over the frame and the spreader (for lack of a better term) had the threaded hole into which the bottom screw threaded.

Adios,

Pizza Bob

 

[s&wchad]

Not all Hogue mounting stirrups use that pin. Earlier monogrips instructed you to remove the pin and the stirrup fit over the frame and the spreader...

Adios,

Pizza Bob

I didn't know that. Thanks Bob!
You learn something new here every day.

 

[Crazywader]

For what it's worth, the OP's question/comment was a learning moment for me. I'm not at all familiar with any of these details and continue (like many others here) to learn from the experts. Thanks for sharing your 'senior' moment.