Would you return this?

[roundels]

Not all Hogue mounting stirrups use that pin. Earlier monogrips instructed you to remove the pin and the stirrup fit over the frame and the spreader (for lack of a better term) had the threaded hole into which the bottom screw threaded.

Adios,

Pizza Bob

Yep, and to install the stirrup you had to remove the pin. Those grips were hard nylon and they had a polished stainless Hogue logo intead of the molded in version. I ordered a grip for a K-frame in 1984 and Guy Hogue sent me a handwritten letter with the order asking me if I wanted to become a distributor. I never wrote back. Stupid is as stupid does.

 

[Truckman]

Finally, used an under sized nail that I could simply fit into the hole but it does fall out when I remove the grips.

You can make a pinch mark in the middle with a hammer and chisel to give it enough traction to stay put...You can thank the retired mechanics of Bubba's Busted Knuckle Brigade for that one... ...Ben

 

[Truckman]

I also have pics of four I bought on a previous day, and four more waiting for their turn at Dunkin Gunwash...All 8 have their pins intact......Ben

 

[mreed911]

As an aside, your FFL takes guns back? Mine are all "all sales are final."

 

[Muley Gil]

I also have pics of four I bought on a previous day, and four more waiting for their turn at Dunkin Gunwash...All 8 have their pins intact......Ben

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Hey, those revolvers ALL have those pins!!!! Does that make them more valuable?????

 

[pasound]

Interesting. I never knew about the assembly mount hole in the frames of a certain revolvers. I have five revolvers 75 years old and older, four k-frames and one n-frame. My 1950 M&P 38 and 1948 K-38 Masterpiece have the hole. My 1947 K-22 does not, and 1923 n-frame and 1913 k-frame do not, either.

 

[minconrevo]

A good hardware store will have roll pins in the proper length and diameter for the one missing for the grip pin. If you have another N frame S&W available, carefully measure the pin diameter and length before you shop. The new pin can be shortened, if done so carefully. Best to install replacement pin with a special roll pin punch.

 

[Taj]

FWIW: I bought a gun missing the grip alignment pin recently and discovered that replacing it was not as easy as I though. I found a nail the right size, cut it to length, and rounded the end with my Dremel. Then bent it driving it into the hole. Next, I bough the 1/8 th inch spring clips only to discover I really need a special tool to insert it into the hole. Next, I cut a 1/8th drill bit but found it too hard to easily round the cut portion due to its hardness. Finally, used an under sized nail that I could simply fit into the hole but it does fall out when I remove the grips. Duh

That grip pin is a standard tension/roll pin that can be had at most hardware stores.

 

[Eddie Southgate]

FWIW: I bought a gun missing the grip alignment pin recently and discovered that replacing it was not as easy as I though. I found a nail the right size, cut it to length, and rounded the end with my Dremel. Then bent it driving it into the hole. Next, I bough the 1/8 th inch spring clips only to discover I really need a special tool to insert it into the hole. Next, I cut a 1/8th drill bit but found it too hard to easily round the cut portion due to its hardness. Finally, used an under sized nail that I could simply fit into the hole but it does fall out when I remove the grips. Duh

Rub it in silicone form a gasket before you put it in and it will likely stay in place.

 

[Eddie Southgate]

I picked up a very nice Model 28 Highway Patrolman 4" from about 1959. The price was fair and the overall condition of the gun is outstanding. It came with Hogue grips. It turns out the frame had a small hole drilled to mount the grips. Looks like it was drilled by a pro.

It bothers me that this wasn't disclosed. I realize that a 1/8th inch hole in the butt area does not affect the reliability of the frame in any manner, but I bought this one based on condition for my collection.

Maybe I'm just too picky, but would you return it? I will probably keep it but I'm curious if it would bother other collectors.

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No . If it really bothered me I would have someone weld it up , polish it down and treat it to a bit of Oxpho .

 

[Phenix]

I picked up a very nice Model 28 Highway Patrolman 4" from about 1959. The price was fair and the overall condition of the gun is outstanding. It came with Hogue grips. It turns out the frame had a small hole drilled to mount the grips. Looks like it was drilled by a pro.

It bothers me that this wasn't disclosed. I realize that a 1/8th inch hole in the butt area does not affect the reliability of the frame in any manner, but I bought this one based on condition for my collection.

Maybe I'm just too picky, but would you return it? I will probably keep it but I'm curious if it would bother other collectors.

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I would not return it.
If the hole was covered by the grips, how could the dealer have known it was there?
Did the grips that came on the gun require that screw hole for mounting?

 

[T44spl]

It is an alignment pin. Otherwise without it the grips would shift or twist in your hand when gripped tightly or under recoil. So, yes it is necessary. Any Ace hardware store should have Vidmar bin filled with little hardware and O rings so it should be easy to replace that pin. Just eyeballing it, I'm thinking 3/32" to 1/8" in diameter maybe 1/2"
long approximate. Yes as mentioned above a roll pin installation punch will make things easier. Maybe work inside a clear tub to contain the pin in case it takes off on you.

 

[Shooter308]

I picked up a very nice Model 28 Highway Patrolman 4" from about 1959. The price was fair and the overall condition of the gun is outstanding. It came with Hogue grips. It turns out the frame had a small hole drilled to mount the grips. Looks like it was drilled by a pro.

It bothers me that this wasn't disclosed. I realize that a 1/8th inch hole in the butt area does not affect the reliability of the frame in any manner, but I bought this one based on condition for my collection.

Maybe I'm just too picky, but would you return it? I will probably keep it but I'm curious if it would bother other collectors.

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No I would put the Hogue's back on and rock and roll

 

[Gun Relics]

I also have pics of four I bought on a previous day, and four more waiting for their turn at Dunkin Gunwash...All 8 have their pins intact......Ben

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That donut hole in the chief would have probably sent me to the sanatorium!

 

[Gun Relics]

As an aside, your FFL takes guns back? Mine are all "all sales are final."

Probably not, but he might have sent me a bottle of Liquid Metal and I might have used it.

 

[fatcat3]

OK

OK I get it. The small hole is a factory hole?

As a moderator, can you please add a donkey emoji? As in "I'm an ass".

Moderator, if you do for the love of God make it easy to find. I'll have to start all my posts with a donkey.

 

[Muley Gil]

That donut hole in the chief would have probably sent me to the sanatorium!

If you look at the other side of that Chief, the strut that goes through the middle of the coil main spring enters that hole in the frame.

 

[Truckman]

That donut hole in the chief would have probably sent me to the sanatorium!

Chris, that's actually a Terrier, shipped April 1953...It's on the to-be-lettered list... ...Ben

 

[larondo]

That's so cute!