X Frame in .350 Legend

If you need more power than a .44 mag ( which is more than most can handle) get a rifle
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Not being personal and I left the name off... this is yet another tired, retreaded, useless gun forum trope. Not every gun ever made has to be the ultimate in cold practicality. And why is .44 Magnum the "chosen by God" cutoff for the most power needed? Why not .41 Magnum?

Who cares what one person believes that MOST people can handle? I've got .460 Magnum and .454 Casull already, perhaps I'm not MOST people. Who are MOST people and who sits on the board of judgement of what MOST people can handle?

Bunch of nonsense. We shop for handguns by want and not need. If everything was dwindled down to a grayscale need then every household would be issued a lever action .30/30 and a pump 12 gauge and there would be nothing whatsoever on the market to choose from and enjoy.
 
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Not being personal and I left the name off... this is yet another tired, retreaded, useless gun forum trope. Not every gun ever made has to be the ultimate in cold practicality. And why is .44 Magnum the "chosen by God" cutoff for the most power needed? Why not .41 Magnum?

Who cares what one person believes that MOST people can handle? I've got .460 Magnum and .454 Casull already, perhaps I'm not MOST people. Who are MOST people and who sits on the board of judgement of what MOST people can handle?

Bunch of nonsense. We shop for handguns by want and not need. If everything was dwindled down to a grayscale need then every household would be issued a lever action .30/30 and a pump 12 gauge and there would be nothing whatsoever on the market to choose from and enjoy.
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Maybe I should have said my opinion only and I'll stand by my opinion. I am not recoil sensitive by any means but if I want to develop anticipation in my trigger press a box of .44 mags thru one of my 29's will accomplish that in short order. I did say "I'm not a fan of the X frame" if you want one, by all means get one. I harbor no ill will towards your opinion. I will also stand by by my belief that a .44 mag is more than most people can handle. My opinion is based on over 40 years of Law Enforcement with 35 years as a firearms instructor. I have trained hundreds of officers on the range with everything from 9mm to .44 magnums and everything in between. Not everybody is Elmer Keith
 
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I'm set with my 357 maximum and all the gear surrounding it. Maybe my favorite caliber.


A 350 with a DA only, $1600 price, moonclips, headspacing on the rim, rubber grips, and 72oz weight; it just doesn't sound like my kind of shooter.


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Apparently S&W has forgotten how badly the .357 Maximum worked in revolvers.

Top strap cutting and forcing cone erosion were already epically bad in the .357 Maximum running at 40,000 psi.

Given the .350 Legend runs at 55,000 psi those issues should be awesomely bad in the new Model 350.

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I don't really get the .350 Legend as a rifle cartridge either, given that most states that require pistol cartridges in rifles for deer hunting purposes also allow or grandfather in the .375 Win and or .38-55.

Indiana is the only exception that comes immediately to mind, and frankly the performance of the approved .350 Legend makes a strong case for also approving the similar performing .38-55.
 
How long after this comes out will a 223 version come? Then the custom stuff, a 6x45 would be a dream for me.
 
Living in Southern Michigan I am a big fan of the caliber, but no interest at all in a huge heavy handgun chambered for it.

I would be very interested in S&W bringing back the Contender and chambering it in 350 with a 16 inch barrel. I have thought seriously about getting a barrel for my Encore, but that is overkill weight wise for this cartridge.
 
Pretty cool they are putting out something new. wonder if they could pull off 350 legend in a Governor since the cylinder and frame have been stretched to accommodate .410
 
I do not think top strap erosion will be a problem with it. The 500 handles 60,000psi and the 460 is supposed to be able to handle 65,000psi, Plus, both of them are burning way more powder than a 350 and the edge outside edge of either is closet to the top strap than the 350 would be. It happens on them yes, but apparently gets no worse than a 357 or 44 mag in smaller guns.

The 357 max was in a smaller frame with a smaller cylinder so the blast is much closer to the strap.

I do imagine throat erosion will occur more rapidly than on 1300-1500 fps rounds. No surprise there, a 22 hornet barrel will last forever, not so a 220 swift or 22-250. Full blown 22 Jets same deal. But, with a shrouded barrel you can just install a new liner and on a one piece barrel do like I did with my Jet, Take off the barrel turn .0277 of the rear shoulder, and face of barrel shank, re cut the forcing cone and go back to shooting. The money you will have spend in ammo, even reloading, will be way more that the cost of a barrel set back. If you are reloading you can back off your target ammo.

Once again I highly doubt the gun can not be used in single action mode.
$5 to a hole in a doughnut it is an as dept error.

Recoil on my 8 3/8" 500 is not one bit worse than my 6" model 29 or 629. The X frames weight helps a lot on that part. I would bet a 350 with 158gr bullets will recoil less than a 44 mag running 240s
 
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It's single/double action according to the website. No surprise there.
 
Yeah, looks like they got a few questions on that one. :p

They changed the description on the spec sheet that I posted above too.

Now the action's description is the same as their other revolvers, single/double action.

What were we to think when they say "double action only". ;)

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When I first saw DA only and no bobbed hammer, second shot reliability when firing from a pocket carry, might be iffy. :eek:

A .223/5.56 eight shooter could be interesting and I might buy one.
Snub or long barrel?
 
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Imissedagain said:
A .223/5.56 eight shooter could be interesting and I might buy one.
Snub or long barrel?
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Bottleneck cartridges in revolvers often have problems with cylinder binding.

The case expands and pushes back when fired. The bottleneck prevents it from sliding forward when the pressure subsides like straight walled cases do. The case pressing hard against the frame creates friction.

I bet S&W would have made a 223 X frame if they could have found a reliable way to prevent this. We got a 350 Legend version because it is a straight walled rifle cartridge short enough to fit in an X frame cylinder.

The older I get the less I like heavy recoiling handguns so I won't be buying one. But it fills the "rifle cartridge in a revolver" niche so I am glad to see S&W offer it.
 
The absolute best advantage for this round is what it can be chambered in. AR, compact bolt action, and now a revolver. Secondly, recoil reduction. Wife has a slight build, and loves to hunt deer. At the NRA show she hefted several bolt guns in the new 350. Purchased a Ruger compact in 350, it has been turned into Psuedo Scout rifle for her. The one she REALLY liked was the Winchester XPR compact model. It was a bit harder to find and took awhile to locate but it's her favorite of the two. She doesn't have an AR chambered in it as of yet, and I do not believe she will.

First season she hunts with the XPR a hot doe walks into the feeder, one 170 grain bullet and the doe runs 25 yards and falls over dead. 20 minutes later a nice buck walks in trailing and one shot and the buck falls dead in place.

Second season a doe comes out of the woods, one shot and the doe falls dead in place. All 3 rounds pass completely thru, breaking ribs on the way in and on the way out. None recovered, but they did the job well.

Could she shoot the vaunted 38-55? Yes, but it would hurt her. The .375? Yes but it could hurt her more. And without major stock work, neither of those standard rifles would fit her.

It works well in the intended niche.

Regards from the Commonwealth,
Rick Gibbs

PS: No, she won't be buying this monster size revolver as a companion pistol…
 
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Michigan law may be different from other states as far as the "shotgun zone" deer areas so I believe straight wall cartridges like .38-55, .375, .444, and some others are not legal because they exceed the maximum case length requirement. The .350 Legend and .450 Bushmaster are the hottest selling rifles in lower Michigan for deer.

The new Michigan rifle law for the limited rifle zone is:

(d) A .35 caliber or larger rifle loaded with straight-walled cartridges with a minimum case length of 1.16 inches and a maximum case length of 1.80 inches

I don't think I'll get an X frame revolver but I really like my .350 XPR.
 

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The new Michigan rifle law for the limited rifle zone is:

(d) A .35 caliber or larger rifle loaded with straight-walled cartridges with a minimum case length of 1.16 inches and a maximum case length of 1.80 inches
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Who comes up with this stuff?

Rosewood
 
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