Your Spanish S&W copies - let's see 'em!

[MichaelZWilliamson]

Unless you know what brand it is and find a parts gun, custom made is all you're going to get.

 

[JSW]

Just now discovered this very interesting thread!

 

[fishhead]

Eibar 1925 .32 Was in a box of stuff I bought. Read all about old Spanish copies not being safe. Not planning on shooting it. This locks up tight and appears to time well. Some wear but no rust and the bore and rifling not bad. Pretty dirty when I got it and did a quick clean. Can take better pictures under natural light tomorrow.

 

[fishhead]

Better lighting photo

 

[foxfirerodandgun]

Spanish Trade Mark Data Base

Does anyone know if there is a data base of Spanish trade marks for S&W copies? I recently picked up one chambered in .32/20 (WCF) at an auction because of the emblem, (appears to be brass), on the grips resembled the Japanese chrysanthemum but does not have 16 pedals as does the original Imperial Seal of Japan. The trade mark looks like two footballs, one horizontal, and the other vertical with letters inside the center area. I gave it to my gunsmith to check over today and will take and post some pictures of it when he finishes his inspection.

James

 

[Justinevers14]

Here is mine. Still don't know much about this 38
Serial number 3451

 

[Frank46]

I've a spanish top break in 44 russian. Nickle plated but the bore looks like a thousand points of darkness. Tried a 44 special case and as it would only go in part way I guess its a 44 russian. Frank

 

[foxfirerodandgun]

Does anyone know who this maker is? It is on a Spanish copy of what appears to me a Model 1910 chambered in .32 WCF (.32/20). Also I've not seen a grip medalion quite like this either. Any thoughts from anyone? Many thanks.
James

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[MichaelZWilliamson]

Does anyone know who this maker is? It is on a Spanish copy of what appears to me a Model 1910 chambered in .32 WCF (.32/20). Also I've not seen a grip medalion quite like this either. Any thoughts from anyone? Many thanks.
James

Do you have more pictures? Overall and other markings?

 

[foxfirerodandgun]

I'll take a couple of the entire revolver and post them. There aren't many additional markings.

James

 

[MichaelZWilliamson]

I'll take a couple of the entire revolver and post them. There aren't many additional markings.

James

Check under the grip, and on the rear face of the cylinder.

 

[foxfirerodandgun]

Here are the only marks on the revolver. There are initials, (WT & WTL), scratched into the inside of both grips. Not shown is the caliber marking on the left side of the barrel which reads, "32 WCF". There were no markings on the rear face of the cylinder.
James

 

[MichaelZWilliamson]

That's going to be some small shop knockoff. The "Used best fit" text is textbook. If it's mechanically sound, it's probably safe to fire. If it has any end shake, significant gap, indexing errors, don't shoot it.

Either way, I wouldn't shoot it much. The lifespan could be in "hundreds" of rounds vs thousands.

If you saw the Forgotten Weapons episode with the "Smill and Wellson," which might even be in this thread, that thing is so loose it's more dangerous to people next to me than anyone downrange.

 

[MichaelZWilliamson]

Apparently it wasn't in the thread already. Here is my authentic Smill & Welson, Sprangfeld, Mus, EUA. The holy grail of revolvers.

 

[foxfirerodandgun]

I noticed the same six pointed star on the grip of the pistol at the very bottom of the page on this link. I am curious if this is an indication of a possible manufacturer?

Nouvelle page 0

James

 

[MichaelZWilliamson]

It's not quite the same, but it could be. Littlegun charges 10 Euros a year and will do their best to ID anything you have, particularly Belgian, but some Spanish.

 

[SoCalGhostGunner]

.38 Special GAC

Picked this one up at a church auction.

 

[peglegstrick]

my TROCAOLA ARAMZABAL Y Cia EIBAR spanish 92

Got this old Spanish copy that was missing the mainspring. Found a repo mainspring from Dixie Gun Works for it but it will require a bit of fitting to work. Has anyone here have any experience doing this. some expert advise would be appreciated. The top of the barrel has TROCAOLA ARAMZABAL Y Cia EIBAR on it and looks to be chambered for the 8mm lebel revolver round. Also does anyone know where to find a schematic of these revolvers?

 

[MichaelZWilliamson]

There's unlikely to be a schematic if you didn't find one on a quick google search. There were lots of small makers in the Eibar region.

8mm Lebel revolver (8mm French Ordnance) is available sporadically from Prvi, and several custom loaders including Reed's Ammunition and Research. It's a fun cartridge to shoot, about on par with .32 long. I have both a French 1893 and a Belgian pocket revolver that shoot it, and about 5 boxes on hand.

 

[Eddie Southgate]

Apparently it wasn't in the thread already. Here is my authentic Smill & Welson, Sprangfeld, Mus, EUA. The holy grail of revolvers.

In post #74 also.