Mini14 advice

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I don’t own an AR few long guns I do have are principally hunting guns Savage 22mag and Savage 243 throw in few shotguns handguns always kept my attention that being said I just like the looks of the mini14 I’ve had some say it’s fantastic and then others say opposite so looking for owners to let me know experience with them. Thanks not looking to trick out just want a dependable semi rifle not for hunting not allowed in state. Yes I looked not easy task to find anything currently.
 
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newer 580 series heavy barrels are "better" for accuracy .....if you are shooting 20-30 rds fast..... than the older pencil barreled guns

I've got a "NRA" model 16.? heavy barrel .....I added a few factory 10rd "almost" flush fit mags backed up by some 20 rd factory mags and you are good to go.

Mine has a little 1-3x20 Weaver scope..... with the 10rd factory mag very non-tacitcooool looking..... but 10rds of 5.56 ready to go.
 
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Don't own one now, but have owned a couple in the past. Never had an issue with them, and they were combat accurate. I understand they have improved accuracy on the newer ones. Seen a guy at the range with one of the newer heavy barrel ones getting solid 1 inch groups at 100 yards. If you plan on mounting optics, the Ranch Rifle version is a better choice as it comes set up for optics.

R/E hunting use in PA. You can use a semi center fire rifle for coyote hunting, just not big game, and a semi .22 rim fire for small game. I sometimes use an AR-15 for coyotes when hunting in the daylight where I have a chance at a quick second shot.

Larry
 
Just to make your decision a little harder, also consider the PC Carbine in 9mm.
Ruger(R) PC Carbine™ Autoloading Rifle Models
It's a handy rifle, cheaper ammo, and a fun plinker but also good to defend the ranch.
I LOVE mine! Taking Glock magazines was a bonus for me too.
 

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Ive owned a 1976 liberty edition that shot ok to 200M and a AC 556 that I sold off when MD restricted all Form 3/4 Weapons. Its a OK rifle..as Good as any. Did not like the sight system.
 
I'm a big fan of the Mini-14's. I've got an older stainless Ranch folder model. It serves as a truck gun. I can get 1" to 2" groups out to 50-yards using the cheapest ammo available. Never had a jam.

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"Yes I looked not easy task to find anything currently."

Don't understand that, these things have been discussed approximately a zillion times.

Anyway, dependable; heck yes. Looove mine. Have an AR, like it, but it's the mini-14 loaded and ready in the closet.



Bob: I am guessing he meant he had a hard time finding one for sale, not info. I set up at a semi-large show a few weeks back and had one of only 2 in the entire hall for sale. It didn't stay long and I almost felt guilty with the amount I put on it.
 
Bob: I am guessing he meant he had a hard time finding one for sale, not info. I set up at a semi-large show a few weeks back and had one of only 2 in the entire hall for sale. It didn't stay long and I almost felt guilty with the amount I put on it.

Correct sir!
 
They’re great little rifles.

You can tart them up if that turns you on, but I prefer the plain wood stock and, at most, a low power scope.

You can’t use 223s for big game here, nor can you use a magazine with over 5 rounds capacity.

You can do anything with a mini14 you can do with an AR platform. Just not as tacticool.
 
I had an early Mini 14 GB in the late 1970's. Good shooting gun, but not a tack driver. As someone else said, buy factory Ruger mags. The aftermarket ones (at least back then) were junk.

I have an early Mini 30. It is easily the most inaccurate gun I have ever owned. I tell people you can't hit the broad side of a square barn from the inside. Yes, its that bad.

I have heard the newer production Mini 14's and Mini 30's are much better in the accuracy department.
 
I have a newer model Mini 14 with the heftier barrel in 5.56 NATO. It is my favorite semi-auto rifle in my collection. There's just something about the styling of wood and steel that I find so appealing. The Garand-style action also adds to the classiness of the rifle. The AR-15 is an excellent rifle, but the Mini-14 is my favorite, despite my familiarity with both.

My Mini-14 came with two 5-round magazines when I purchased it. Since then, I have purchased a few of the Ruger factory 20-round magazines. I have had no issues with the rifle or the mags.
 
I had an older (mid-1980s) Ranch Rifle that grouped like a pistol on a bad day. By report the 580 or later serial prefix guns are more accurate out of the box, and a device called the Accu Strut helps. Good luck in your search.
 
I have a number of AR-15s in various configurations for various purposes but when to comes to general field use with a 5.56mm/.223 semi auto rifle, I take one of my Mini 14s.

I have three of them that cover a pretty broad spectrum.

1) I have on of the early 180 series Mini 14s and IMHO it was superior to the other, (181 series through the early 580 series) pencil barrel Mini 14s in terms of accuracy.

I bought it with a scope mount attached in place of the rear sight, but opted to replace the rear sight with a Tech Sights rear sight. I also added a Choate Browning style flash suppressor/front sight, partly because it's a better front sight and largely because the barrel harmonics are much better with a bit more weight at the muzzle. In that condition it's a solid 2 MOA capable rifle with M193 ammo (55 gr FMJBT at 3250 fps).

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The 180 series Mini 14s have much lighter slides as well as smaller gas ports, and that shows in the superior accuracy compared to the later series pencil barrel rifles. I suspect they went with the heavier slide and .080" gas port for greater reliability and durability with the full auto variants of the Mini 14 under field conditions, but it was a step backward for the semi-auto civilian version.

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2) I have a 184 series Mini 14 that a previous owner cut down to 16.25", probably in an effort to improve accuracy, as that was a common thing to try back in the day. When I bought it, it was still a solid 5 MOA rifle, which was probably why the previous owner sold it.

However with a Choate flash hider, a SOCOM size Accu Strut, a .045" gas bushing, a shock buffer, and a Tech Sights rear sight it became a reliable 1.5 MOA 5 shot group rifle with the same M193 ammo.

A Choate ventilated handguard also helps keep the barrel cooler, but I still like wood and it now sports a wood handguard. It doesn't make a difference at reasonable rates of fire.
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3) I also have a 187 series Ranch Rifle that was surplused by the NC Dept of Corrections. It had been set up for a scope and had an enormous muzzle device that was a combination front sight, flash hider and bayonet lug. It weighed about 6 oz and with it installed it shot about 8" low at 50 yards with the iron sights at the end of there adjustment. But it shot 3/4" groups at 50 yards.

Consequently, I gave it the same treatment as my 184 series Mini 14 and it produces the same 1.5 MOA 5 shot group accuracy with M193.

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One key point here is that all of my Mini 14s have 1-10 twist barrels, rather than the 1-7 twist that Ruger switched to before moving back to a 1-9 twist.

The 1-7 twist aggravates any issues with less than perfect bullets and is less than ideal for 55 gr bullets in general. The mismatch of ammo to barrel twist is one of the reasons shooters often report poor accuracy.

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Ruger made two major changes with the 580 series.

Most importantly they replaced their worn out tooling and the 580 series and up have much tighter tolerances.

In the middle of 580 series production they switched to a heavier tapered barrel that increases stiffness and improves barrel harmonics. They are reported to shoot 2 MOA out of the box - like the original 580 series before Ruger modified the design for the heavier slide and went with the larger gas bushing.

The 580 through five eighty whatever series rifles also benefit from a gas bushing and accu strut, but show less improvement than the pencil barrel Mini 14s.

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For comparison purposes I have a Colt SP1 as well as a Colt manufactured M16A1 upper half on an NDS 602 lower. Both of these "M16/M16A1" style rifles also shoot 1.5 MOA 5 shot groups with M193 ammo.

In a similar configuration, both the AR-15 and the Mini 14 produce similar accuracy, but I give the Mini 14 the nod for slightly greater reliability and better handling.

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