2025 price increases are coming.Winchester Ammunition Announces Price Increase from January 1, 2025. - Southern Defense

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Todd

My recommendation for the past 3-4 months was to buy if you can. The economy may get better in 2025 but I think it is still a good idea to stock up now.

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Alan
SWCA LM 2023, SWHF 220

I have for the last few years, bought when I had the additional $$. I buy in case lots of good quality. I can coast for a long time as it stands now.

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NHI, 10-8.

Unless you have a forklift to move your ammo stash...you don't have enough.

Does two forklifts or multiple trips count?

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Alan
SWCA LM 2023, SWHF 220

Snidely, I could not agree more well said!!!

I don't necessarily disagree BUT there are -IMO- equivalent or better options that don't come at the cost of a Remington or W-W branded box. Will they raise their prices to follow - very possible but I'd wait and see. Just my $0.02!
The little issues with Russia has an impact on the components so IF that wound down things might not be so grim.
Additionally, if you're paying $50 for a W-W product with any frequency would the increase REALLY bother you? If you're using 100 rounds per week perhaps but if it's a box/month?
Only time will tell but I personally won't get in to a panic buying mode.
BTW - I would need a fork lift!!😊😊

Forklift implies you got a lot of extra room which many people do not. Plus a climate controlled area to store it in as high temps, damp, etc. are not so good for long term storage. Most can store a lot but not tons. I guess you could store some with relatives if they got the room and are accommodating to the idea.

It's not the ammo my wife objects to, it's the idea of me messing with a forklift.

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Release the Kraken

My opinion has and will always be, buy what you can, while you can, as long as you are not taking food off your family's table. No matter WHO is in the WH, we never know or can predict what the ammo situation going forward will be.

If the sale of Vista Outdoor has gone through or is likely to go through in the near future, the only major domestic ammo maker left will be Winchester. That means we will be at the mercy of foreign ownership as to what he prices and availability will be.

Be realistic with yourself! Don't buy two or three lifetime supplies! Buy what you will realistically use for the foreseeable future and maybe a slight bit extra. Have enough carry ammo on hand that you can rotate the ammo in your gun and magazine every year or so and shoot out the old stuff.

I might not have enough but there ain't a forklift can move all of it on a single pallet. I'm not buying more because I'm 71: "the future's uncertain and the end is always near......" Joe

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Behavior Creates Destiny

Here in Woke Colorado, They just passed a 6.5% tax increase effective in April 25 on all gun related purchases as well as some other radical and ridiculous anti gun laws.

It’s because of emotional panic buying that ammo manufacturers, big box stores, and online retailers feel absolved of any responsibility for gouging the public to the maximum level possible.
These people are NOT your friends. The firearms industry in America is no longer run by enthusiasts that decided to make their passion their profession. It is run by conglomerates with diversified holdings looking strictly at profit.

Don’t fall for it!

Make them sit on their inventory. They will start to sweat if they aren’t moving product by year’s end.

Invest your money instead. The potential for capital gains right now far outweighs the potential price increases.

Cool heads prevail!!

While I generally agree with your point, I think that with the nitro cellulose shortage, it will drive the price of ammo/powder up.

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Todd

I still have several hundred rounds 9mm ,38 spl and .357 of my covid stash. I agree stock up if needed.

The Trump landslide win will lessen the demand for ammo in
the coming months. As mentioned earlier, buy what you can
when you can. That's what I'm doing.

RELATIVES!!!???????

Many people I know stockpile ammo to protect themselves from relatives/in-laws!

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No school like the old school.

How about 2 pickups and a trailer?

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S&W Accumulator

Even though I’m a .45 ACP guy, we all know the best deals are on the current military calibers, 9mm & 5.56mm so that’s what I’ve been buying lately. Practice ammo as well as self-defense ammo. I don’t have anywhere near a pallet load but I’m making a good start at it, without going into debt.

I’ve been shooting and buying.
I’ll just keep on shooting and speed up the buying.
I don’t really need a forklift, maybe a refrigerator dolly.
Hold on - I have one of those!

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NRA LIFE MEMBER

I'm thinking the same thing. We are much less likely to see sweeping federal restrictions or new taxes on firearms or ammo, so that is not going to put inflationary pressure on the ammo market.

The pressure on the ammo market will come from foreign wars and our reliance upon importing nearly everything. Vista Outdoor controls production of Federal, CCI/Speer and Remington and they seem more focused on military contracts. China cutting the export of nitrocellulose and metals to the U.S. will certainly drive up prices, but China started doing that in 2023. I'm sure China is also using a lot of those metals and nitrocellulose to make munitions for themselves, Russia, Iran, and North Korea, all of these nations are engaging in war.

Supply and demand rules prices. I don't think there will be a huge demand in the U.S., but there is a massive demand for the wars in Ukraine and the Middle East.

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VCDL, GOA, NRA

Colorado voters just passed a ballot measure that would add a 6.5% excise tax on all firearms and ammo sold in the State. Just one more reason to buy now while you can afford it.

From a news article...
Can't be overly concerned with what the feds might do when these blue States trample on our rights with unrestrained glee.

My inventory of components, lead, molds, and loaded ammo far exceeds my annual consumption based on the last the 12 months of shooting. I would be far better off buying gasoline so I can drive to the range and shoot.

At age 76 and having lived through the Clinton and Obama administrations, I would say you are wasting money with at least 4 years of Republican, pro-gun administration. When you see good values, buy whether it is gun shops, gun shows, auctions, or estate sales.

Buy a 22 LR handgun and a 22 LR "target rifle" to shoot out to 100 yards. Emails indicate that 22 LR is available for 7¢ - 8¢ per round, and you don't have to reload the brass.

Every January every manufacturer announces price increases on every product. The rebate programs and 0% interest financing follow about mid-February. Patience my fellow enthusiasts, patience. The January post-Christmas sales slump happens every year.

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S&WHF 366

You can only have too much ammo if you are swimming or on fire.

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Find a way or make one.

O.P.,

I have probably been around far longer than you, one of the very few 80+ per a recent age poll on the forum! I can remember when you could buy a new car for well under $2,000 even a Cadillac for under $3,500, and gasoline for 16 cents a gallon or less. Really! Look at car and gasoline prices now! If only wages had kept pace!

Inflation has always been with us and everything will likely cost more in the short and long term future than it does now. Suggesting we should buy ammunition, or anything else, now because it will be more expensive after January next year is so obvious to most people that giving such advice is worse than useless! Prices are what they are in real time and we have to live with that, at least until there is another depression and no one can afford anything! I can remember when you couldn't put $25 worth of groceries in your car, because they wouldn't fit! Now a single bag of groceries can easily exceed $200, more than many people made in a month in the 1950s. I also bought .22 LR ammunition for 50 cents a box, $5 for 500 rounds, instead of the $5-10 per 50 rounds these days. .22 Shorts were even less, not more, as they are now.

I am glad I already have enough loading components and ammunition to last the rest of my life, that much was bought before the massive post-covid inflation.

I'm also glad I lived in the times I have, before guns, lead, oil and many other things, were so demonized that far too many people believe those things are inherently evil.

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Gunsmithing since 1961

Local outdoor chain (Vance) had Federal 9mm on sale for $10.99 (115, 124, & 147). I cannot reload for that at current component prices. Only bought 3 cases, but I say strike when the iron is hot. There may be sales, but prices will not go back to where they were.

As I posted back in September, China has halted two critical components for ammo to the U.S. and we don’t have a reliable or “enough” that other countries can supply.

China's New Export Restriction Choke Hold on Critical U.S. Ammunition Components, Are You Prepared?

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Get off my lawn!

If the retail market doesn't raise the price the government will.

Learn it, know it, live it.

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That's just somebody talkin.

Didn't Winchester or Vista try to raise prices last year only to backtrack when the foreign companies like MagTech, PPU and PMC kept their prices low?

Eventually prices will go up along with the cost of everything else. But no one company can set prices. Unless Vista and the foreign companies go along with the price increase Winchester will have to compete. Its not like their white box ammo is a premium product people will pay extra for.

I've always found Winchester white box to be very good and have never found issue with it...always accurate and dependable. Then again...I've never used it for anything other than punching holes in paper.

I found it to be a little weak for a Gen 4 Glock 19 I had, it never failed but sometimes barely dribbled out of the gun. That Glock was sprung a little on the heavy side, it worked fine in other guns.

That's the main reason it is not my preferred ammo. I want my practice ammo to have about the same power and recoil as my carry ammo. WWB is not junk but there is no reason to pay extra for it if Winchester raises the price. As is they would have to sell it at a discount compared to other brands before I would buy it.

Winchester Super X 22lr 40 Grain Copper Plated RN