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Old 01-14-2011, 12:49 AM
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Its true, businesses can refuse service based on anything, including concealed weapons. Starbucks does it all the time.
Starbucks? Heck . . . they allow open carry!
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I'm having a hard time figuring out why anyone would want to go to Chuck E. Cheese in the first place.
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I'm having a hard time figuring out why anyone would want to go to Chuck E. Cheese in the first place.
I was forced to go once....

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Never again. The kids. The noise. The food....
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ANY LEO that does not carry "off duty" should be FIRED.

Once upon a time it was required, most places.

I know several incidents where LEO's either did not have a gun, or had a "little" gun with no extra ammo, that got involved in a situation, that they barely survived... Many of them came to me, and I heled them pick a "Mo Betta" off duty gun and carry system...

IF I was a Chief, and I found out one of my officers did not carry "off duty" I would FIRE them on the spot...

EVERY Citizen, with a clean record should get a CHL, and carry 100% of the time...
You're hilarious... with a lot of crazy...
Can you imagine what the rational world thinks of you...
you know rational clear thinking people...

I too am a supporter of our 2nd Amendment...
but making it mandatory for officers to carry... is silly talk.
who are you to dictate what others should do?
hilarious........ I will expect my fellow American's to also think for themselves.

good luck with this train of thought.......... wow!
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Wow! Some folks get exorcised when they think their personal 2A rights are being infringed upon; and you want to make EVERYONE do what you want. Just simply wow!

Bear in mind that Loughner was carrying legally. Suspect you're happy he endorsed your mandate that he carry a gun.

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ANY LEO that does not carry "off duty" should be FIRED.

Once upon a time it was required, most places.

I know several incidents where LEO's either did not have a gun, or had a "little" gun with no extra ammo, that got involved in a situation, that they barely survived... Many of them came to me, and I heled them pick a "Mo Betta" off duty gun and carry system...

IF I was a Chief, and I found out one of my officers did not carry "off duty" I would FIRE them on the spot...

EVERY Citizen, with a clean record should get a CHL, and carry 100% of the time...
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If you served the same ****** food as Chuck E Cheese, you'd be worried about being shot too.

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I WILL NOT do business with a company that does not allow me to carry concealed on their premises. They have a choice and so do I...
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Maybe I'm way off base here but I think I would have some reservations about the police officer that made those statements, doesn't carry off-duty and seems to harbor some anti gun sentiment!
Entitlement mentatality?
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Good thread. I emailed the company expressing my disappointment and concern with the store policy.

Sadly, I think that this trend will continue. As for myself, when I turn 21 I plan to apply for my CCP. I want to have the opportunity to defend myself, and my family. Businesses that ban the lawful carrying of handguns for self-denfense will lose my business. There's no good reason (in my mind) for us to be deprived of our ability to carry. I feel more comfortable, in fact, when I see people in public either open or concealed carrying. It's a shame to see the company take this stance.

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when i see the no guns in the window, i find some where else to spend my money, if we all did this they would be closed down or rethink there polices, if i cant carry then i wont be there long! a big crowd of unarmed people makes a big target!
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Recently, my wife and I were on vacation in the U.P. here in Michigan. we walked into a toy store of all places. (sorry to say, I don't remember the name) and I nudged my wife and pointed out a sign that read licensed gun carriers welcome! and stated that if you showed your CPL you would receive 10% off your purchase!
This I praise, although I did not feel comfortable showing my cpl to save 10% (or about .25cents) that close to the WI boarder, I wish we had more business's like this.
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Since I am on a low sodium, low cholesterol diet chuck-e is not on my list of places to eat.

It is ironic that a place that serves food that will literally kill me has qualms about licensed CCW. Guess they would rather kill me than let the bad guys.
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My first thoughts. He is afraid of guns or thinks he is the only guy who can have one when and only when on the job. A mechanic who never learned how to drive or hold a wheel?
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Old 02-08-2011, 08:11 PM
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I am not being facetious with this question. Why a S&W over Colt or other .45ACP?

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But if someone wants to carry and feel safer, I am all for it. But if they want to carry the proper gun, it will be a S&W 1911 in .45acp.
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Three things:

1 The second amendment is still the only part of the Constitution that people can block

2 I hope that off duty cop that goes unarmed is never in that patrol car off duty

3 I have the sudden desire to open an account At Chappell Bank in Texas despite the fact that I live in florida
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1 The second amendment is still the only part of the Constitution that people can block


not really, freedom of speech gets blocked on a daily basis - internet forums, TV (FCC anyone?), radio, you can't say what you want to say.
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My friend is a district manager of Chuckees out here in the South West and he told me about this new posting. He and I do a lot of shooting together. There has been a couple shootings at one of the CC's here in Vegas and all everyone could do is run for cover and watch the gunman run away... pretty sad. Of course the cops showed up 10 minutes later and roped the entire place off including everyones cars so they all had to find a way home and come back the next morning to get their vehicles. What a system!!!
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Not going to Chuck E. Cheese's? I'm not seeing a downside. Everytime my daughhter gets a birthday party invitation to one of those the wife and I draw straws, loser has to take her. Live my daugheter dearly and there's nothing that I wouldn't do for her, but going to Chuck E. Cheese definately makes me reconsider...
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Wow! Some folks get exorcised when they think their personal 2A rights are being infringed upon; and you want to make EVERYONE do what you want. Just simply wow!

Bear in mind that Loughner was carrying legally. Suspect you're happy he endorsed your mandate that he carry a gun.
No he wasn't. He lied on the 4473 to buy it. Being a drug addict is an automatic disqualifier on the federal level. Please refrain from making false statements like this, it doesn't help our side at all.
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No he wasn't. He lied on the 4473 to buy it. Being a drug addict is an automatic disqualifier on the federal level. Please refrain from making false statements like this, it doesn't help our side at all.
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Oh, please.
I'm not arguing the practicality of enforcing such a law, but the veracity of your statement. Loughner was not carrying legally not matter what the media might state about Arizona's "liberal gun laws". Making statements such as yours does nothing to further the discussion.
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I'll play.

What proof do you have he was a drug addict?

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Arizona shooting suspect allowed to buy gun, despite his past

Anymore questions?
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ANY LEO that does not carry "off duty" should be FIRED.

Once upon a time it was required, most places.

I know several incidents where LEO's either did not have a gun, or had a "little" gun with no extra ammo, that got involved in a situation, that they barely survived... Many of them came to me, and I heled them pick a "Mo Betta" off duty gun and carry system...

IF I was a Chief, and I found out one of my officers did not carry "off duty" I would FIRE them on the spot...

EVERY Citizen, with a clean record should get a CHL, and carry 100% of the time...
Irony defined: One who makes the personal choice to engage in THE individual freedom that ultimately ensures all other individual freedoms, advocates a system in which nobody is free to choose except as he dictates.

How is this different from the tyranny that prohibits gun ownership? Hint: It's not.
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No, because that linky supports my posts. Thank you.

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No, because that linky supports my posts. Thank you.

Be safe.
No it doesn't, your statement is still bogus. Loughner made false satements to purchase and legally could not legally possess or carry a firearm. To state that he was legally carrying is a gross mistatement originating from the media and perpetuated by the uninformed and ignorant.
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As much as I appreciate your condescending and rude banter about voices... grow up man...

Now to speak to your foolish response about an unsecured 'firearm' in your vehicle.
Shame on you for putting your bad behavior and unresponsible outcome
on the business that has denied your CC rights in their establishment.

Are you honestly telling me that if you do not plan for your 'firearms' security
then they are responsible for that...
There are many placed, in our communities, that our firearm's are not allowed;
either by law, or the owners of the business. (like it or not, speak to your legislator)

With this said, YOU need to plan for the security of your firearm....
(in this application) they are called car safes.....
Google can assist in this remedial education and corrective behavior: Google

Enjoy your new knowledge, and welcome to the responsibility of being not only a firearm owner...
but now a responsible firearm owner... your welcome.
Did those voices tell you I have an "unsecured" gun in the car? I went back and reread my post and it sure as hell did not say that.

If you leave a gun in a car (IN A SAFE for those that can not see the obvious) and the car is stolen do you actually believe that the gun you used to own will not be in the possession of the scumbag that stole the car? Which if you would have read my post, is what was said the first time (sorry I didn't define for the term stolen, I thought common sense would apply, my bad).
Ask a cop how often cars are stolen.

I can go months at a time without entering a place that carry is not allowed (what type of plan is it you imagine I don't have), sounds like you need to move if you can not carry most places.

Let's try again (I will type slow this time), a gun on my person or a gun in a tin box in an unattended car, which is more safe?

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Ask a cop how often cars are stolen.

I can go months at a time without entering a place that carry is not allowed (what type of plan is it you imagine I don't have), sounds like you need to move if you can not carry most places.

Let's try again (I will type slow this time), a gun on my person or a gun in a tin box in an unattended car, which is more safe?

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While I agree with the intent of this post, while a person is asking the police officer about stolen cars (which happens more often in some parts of the country), they need to ask about how often a gun gets taken from police officers.

I frequently find guns in wrecked cars around here. Guns are carried in cars as a way of life. Even our accident report tow inventory sheet lists a category for guns. In the northeast or in the west coast states, this is unheard of.

However, I have been involved in two officer shootings where guns were taken from and then used on the officers but I know of many other cases. I also know of several cases where individuals lost their guns to others, most of the time knowing their assailant. Just as with home robberies, a great deal of individual robbery is done by people the victim knows.
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couple of points an opinions...

1. ChuckE.Cheese pizza REALLY sucks!
2. My daughter LOVES CEC and EVERYTHING ABOUT IT.
3. I love my dughter with all my being... (so we go!)
4. I wish I could CC every where... but I can't.
5. Know where you are, who is there, and what the threats are.
6. If its not safe leave...

if the "ATTACK" happens your screwed anyway.... lets be honest...
Are you gonna get in to a gun battle with your 8+1 45 compact?
Are you going to abandon your beautiful little 3yo princess to shoot it out with this BG?
Of course not......... ppl lets get real...

Dont get me wrong...
I carry 100% of the time I am allow by law.
And of course a 100% while on duty...

this life is not a warzone....
just be aware and 90% of the problems will be avoided.

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breath, its going to be ok!
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#5 How can you know who is there, who is about to walk in, their background and what their intent may be?
#6 I don't think anyone can say with certainty that any public place is "safe." By the time it becomes apparent it is unsafe, leaving may not be an option.

And, being "real", I'm going to fight with whatever I have, or can pick up, to stop the person from murdering my child, as their is no other viable option. Hopefully, I can engage him quickly and by surprise as he's likely not expecting resistance. You may be the only one trained and able to stop the massacre of inncocent people, including your daughter. Your only other option is to die there together. Not much of an option.

Life is not a warzone, but bad things happen to good folks all to frequently. I agree, however, with your statement about being aware (i.e. situational awareness) and how it can help you avoid most problems. The other 10% may kill you if you aren't properly trained, equipped, and most importantly mentally prepared to deal with them appropriately.

If one doesn't have the training, including the the proper mindset, they are better off not carrying a weapon as they will be nothing other than a liability.

LE officers should carry when off duty, convenient or not. Extreme violence may occur anytime/anyplace and does not care if we have had a hard day, our back hurts, or we don't really don't feel like dealing with it because we're "off duty."
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This whole discusion baffles me. Why take a picture of the sign? That got you nothing and all the while creating enough of a seen while doing so to draw the manger's attention, and then telling him you CC.
I have carried a concealed handgun for 32 years now, some of those years without a permit or license. Along with my wife, I did my part to raise our 3 children, coached baseball, basketball, softball, and did every other parent / child activity there is right up through college, and never once let it be discovered that I was armed just about every minute of it (kind a hard to swim with a .45).
Why would you tell anyone you carry a gun? Why would you give a crapp what the sign out front reads? If you really care about protecting your family you won't even slow down to look at the stupid sign.
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We're used to it in Wisconsin because we can't legally CC anywhere.... Legally being the operative word here.

You have to make a decision, either follow some stupid law and leave your gun at home, or quietly break the law and protect yourself.

When I carry I leave my "Gun Hidden Under My Jacket" button at home.....
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Thumbs up as of 4/2/2011 chuck-e-cheese salem OR,

Went to the Salem Oregon CC today looked for but couldn't find any posted signs prohibiting firearms, if this is still a co. policy, this particular CC doesn't post it where its supposed to be, and under currant law as long as your ccw stays concealed your OK to carry.
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Those signs are so misguided at so many levels - anyone here could go on and on about inanimate objects, how someone who means harm won't care about a sign, etc.

As for the officer ... of course he's anti-gun. The misfortune of the police department is that they have to draw from the human race. Cops are like any other civilians. Some of them are gunnies, some aren't.


ETA: No. I'm not anti cop. Quite the opposite actually.
My experience has been MANY Law enforcement officers are NOT anti-gun, just I would rather MOST people NOT have guns as MOST people are viewed as potential problems.

For all the people who claim Law Enforcement supports the 2nd amendment I have yet to meet a cop who hasn't expressed the opinion that when dealing with the public in the professional capacty that they would prefer them to be unarmed!

My brother who worked in law enforcement owns guns, hunts and shoots yet DOES NOT belong to the NRA other than occasional annual subscriptions I bought him states, there are a LOT of people who should not have guns. Life is easier for him when they did not have them. Most the people I have met through him who worked in law enforcement have guns and feel generaly the same way.
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My wife asked me about carrying in the local mall.

It's posted in the window, but the sign doesn't meet stated state requitements in size and color... what to do?

I told her, if she starts to carry, that when paying, don't keep the ID or form of payment in the compartment with the gun. Concealed is concealed... it's the parking lot where she will likely need the gun.
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