Should chamber be cleared when putting gun away for the night?

I've seen this sort of question too many times.

First, carrying a semi-auto pistol with a full mag and and empty chamber sounds like a safe thing to do, but it is actually very dangerous. If you ever had to pull your pistol for defense, you think you have the wits and smooth skills to rack the slide in a split second, but under such a stressful situation you are more likely to fumble with the slide. Even if you do manage to rack the slide under stress, where is your trigger finger? Is it on the side of the receiver, resting on the trigger, or did you instinctively pull the trigger all the way back during the racking and now you are pressing with all your might as your assailant lunges at you with a knife and the pistol won't fire because the trigger is already fully depressed? Or did you rack the slide, your finger hit the trigger as the slide slammed forward and the muzzle was accidentally pointing at little Janey, the 9 year old girl who was standing well behind and to the side of your assailant?

Second, repeatedly loading and unloading a round can push the bullet deeper into the casing, this can lead to dangerously high chamber pressure when the round is fired.

Third, a defensive pistol with an empty chamber at home is just as bad as carrying a pistol with an empty chamber. If you have children at home or perhaps there is a state or local law that requires firearms to be inaccessible to anyone but you, I suggest keeping the pistol in a locked box. Make sure the box is easy for you to open in a stressful situation, but not easy for a child to open.
 
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Repeatedly unchambering and chambering the same round can lead to disaster.

Each time you chamber a round the bullet gets pushed a little more into the casing. This increases the case pressure.

Do it enough and you will have a round waiting to explode.

Funny, but I have never seen, read, or heard of a round "exploding" due to this.
 
When you need it there's NO TIME to rack the slide.........Doing it in the dark will tell the bad guy(s) exactly where you are.
I knew a store owner who kept a semi-auto pistol in his shop. He kept the chamber empty. When he was being robbed, he tried to surreptitiously chamber a round. By operating the slide so slowly, he created a jam. He had a jammed pistol in his hand when he was shot and killed by the robber.
 
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However, keeping a gun with loaded chamber in the home is something which could make me loose my gun permits. We are not allowed to do so in Germany. Magazine next to the gun in the certified safe is O.K. here around. No carry anyway.... We had some occasional burglaries going on here around, i hope i am spared of these horrors.

How are you required to store revolvers?
 
I saw an analysis of defensive gun uses somewhere… in a significant majority of uses the firearm’s location was “in another room”. To my mind, this indicates that the time spent to rack a slide was probably not an issue.

If a perp already has you covered, you are not going to outdraw him, so also not an issue in that circumstance.

It’s all a percentage game. Why are we worrying about handgun chambers when the zombie hordes will require an AR? Well, because zombie hordes are a low-probability event so we don’t carry our AR.

You need your gun to work when you need it. You need your gun to NOT work when you’re just carrying it. Only you can calc your own percentages of how best to accomplish that.
 
I read a article years ago about a shop owner that was so rattled when robed that he forgot to flip off the safety on his semi auto and got shot. I don’t want to think about having to chamber a round.
 
If you don't have your personal protection firearm fully loaded with a round in the chamber you don't have a personal protection firearm you have a paper weight.

When you're sitting at the bench in broad daylight shooting paper, zero stress. It's easy to work the slide and chamber a round.

But when you're in a highly stressful situation, typically at night, you're half asleep still, typically with no time, it's an entirely different animal.

Lock it up in an easy access safe if you have too. But keep it ready to rock and roll.
 
My P365 is on my hip with a round chambered. Only time it's not on me is when I'm in the shower or sleeping. It's on a nightstand at night. I have a Winchester 1200 leaning against my headboard, and a 7" AR15 leaning against a dresser. Neither of those have a round in the chamber.
 
Everyone has a theory on this but if you're like me and have a half dozen loaded guns around your house 24/7/365 it seems pointless to unload the gun you carried all day. Further, "put up for the night" implies locked away. I just leave my EDC on my dresser, in the same condition as when I carried it. There's nobody here to touch it and it doesn't do anything on its own, notwithstanding what the fake news headlines imply! :D

Funny. I expected debates here but I see we generally agree with the concept that "a loaded chamber is a happy chamber". ;)

With the exception of jurisdictions that require unloaded guns in homes most well trained defensive shooters will keep chambers loaded.

As for these:

The Israelis that I worked with always carried Condition 3.

Not too many people (that I'm aware of), train like an Israeli Commando

The entire IDF trains using pistols in Condition 3 because back in the day, think 1948, they were supplied with an enormous variety of pistols and the decision was made to train everyone the same way. Ipso facto - Condition 3.

But an Israeli Soldier can draw his or her pistol, rack the slide, and be on target and firing faster than you can say Jack Robinson! (Side note - that phrase actually originated in the 18th century!) They train that way and they probably repeat that maneuver thousands of times. I've seen it done (long story oft- repeated in other threads) and it's impressive. If you can shoot like that feel free to carry your pistol in Condition 3. :rolleyes:
 
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Repeatedly unchambering and chambering the same round can lead to disaster.

Each time you chamber a round the bullet gets pushed a little more into the casing. This increases the case pressure.

Do it enough and you will have a round waiting to explode.

Has anyone ever actually experienced this?

My EDCis a 9mm Shield, and I am a huge fan of dry fire practicing.

I keep empty mags w/ a snap cap both at home and in the office, and I unload and reload several times a day, always going back and forth between the round in the chamber and the top one in the mag.

I would estimate those two rounds have been chambered at least 100 times each, so after reading this and the previous post I compared them to untouched rounds from the same box and the COAL was identical for all.
 
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Has anyone ever actually experienced this?

My EDCis a 9mm Shield, and I am a huge fan of dry fire practicing.

I keep empty mags w/ a snap cap both at home and in the office, and I unload and reload several times a day, always going back and forth between the round in the chamber and the top one in the mag.

I would estimate those two rounds have been chambered at least 100 times each, so after reading this and the previous post I compared them to untouched rounds from the same box and the COAL was identical for all.


I do not pull the trigger on my EDC unless I am at the range and heaven forbid in self defense or defense of others. Never! If I feel the need to dry fire, I have more than enough firearms (both short guns and long guns) at home to do so. Why at work? Could get you in trouble or scare the bejesus out of a coworker. I shoot handguns at least once a week at the range about 50 weeks a year, I shoot rifles two days a week about the same amount as handguns.
 
Funny, but I have never seen, read, or heard of a round "exploding" due to this.
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Well known, well documented. Maybe not "exploding", but going off with far more pressure than intended.

My guns in longer term storage are empty. My guns being cleaned are empty. There is no ammo near them. Any firearm I have available for use is loaded all the way, including chamber, and left that way. Messing with it is a recipe for bad things, including fumbling around to the extent of an ND, not having a loaded gun when needed, or the setback problem. I can't think of a good excuse for such silly administrative handling as a general rule.

Caveat: No kids, and none in the house. The answer then is wear it when awake, and store it in a sound manner for your kids and setting.
 
My guns in longer term storage are empty. My guns being cleaned are empty. There is no ammo near them. Any firearm I have available for use is loaded all the way, including chamber, and left that way. Messing with it is a recipe for bad things, including fumbling around to the extent of an ND, not having a loaded gun when needed, or the setback problem. I can't think of a good excuse for such silly administrative handling as a general rule.

Caveat: No kids, and none in the house. The answer then is wear it when awake, and store it in a sound manner for your kids and setting.

What he said..................!!!!
 

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