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Couple things here...

I was sorry for Mary Jo, but keep in mind that she was knowingly with a married man when he drove off the bridge and drowned her. She was with Teddy because he was famous and showed her a good time, I guess...like the other women who found the Kennedy brothers attractive.

As for the gentleman who posted that Teddy Kennedy was a rapist, I think he may have Ted confused with his nephew, a doctor who barely beat a rape charge. But wasn't Ted present that night, too? Again, I'd feel more for the lady had she not been with the men she was, looking for glory in their shadows, I guess. She'd been drinking in a bar before going off with the doctor to the Kennedy estate.

Is that about how it played out? I'm going by memory here. I think the bar was called Au Bar?

Does anyone recall the infamous photo of a philandering Ted and a young lady in a boat, as they were being quite affectionate? Another Senator quipped that Kennedy seemed to have changed his position on "offshore drilling." :D

T-Star
 
I was sorry for Mary Jo, but keep in mind that she was knowingly with a married man when he drove off the bridge and drowned her. She was with Teddy because he was famous and showed her a good time, I guess...like the other women who found the Kennedy brothers attractive.

As for the gentleman who posted that Teddy Kennedy was a rapist, I think he may have Ted confused with his nephew, a doctor who barely beat a rape charge. But wasn't Ted present that night, too? Again, I'd feel more for the lady had she not been with the men she was, looking for glory in their shadows, I guess. She'd been drinking in a bar before going off with the doctor to the Kennedy estate.
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Is this "blame the victim"? The responsibility lies with the spoiled, self-indulgent, entitlement-mentality of certain very wealthy, powerful people who think that money will give them a free pass on any behavior at all.

All those Kennedys are now where money isn't going to assuage their sins and behavior.
 
A friend of mine with English roots had his letter published on BBC.com

I intensely disliked Ted Kennedy who was a hypocrite. His family came to wealth and power by bootlegging whisky. His father was a separatist while ambassador to the U.K and he himself was a drunk and a bad driver. He was a supporter of the I.R.A., a terrorist organization and yet he tried to take guns away from law abiding Americans.
Sentiments aside, the facts should be considered.
What did he achieve for our tax dollars.
He had the luxury of engaging in politics as more of a hobby.

Andrew, Los Angeles
 
If one believes in a higher power, then Ted Kennedy will pay for his sins in the great beyond for all eternity. Isn't that a comforting thought?
 
Just watched Joe Biden say, "if it werent for Ted Kennedy I would not be standing here today". Enough said.
 
"Texas Star: Couple things here...I was sorry for Mary Jo, but keep in mind that she was knowingly with a married man when he drove off the bridge and drowned her. She was with Teddy because he was famous and showed her a good time, I guess...like the other women who found the Kennedy brothers attractive."

Regardless of any supposed intentions as to the presence of Mary Jo in Ted's car, the point is that he was DUI, failed to render aid in a fatal accident, saved himself, left the scene, and didn't report it until hours afterwards. I would think most of us would most likely be charged with negligent manslaughter, and find ourselves in criminal and civil court.
Ted received a 2 month probated sentence for leaving the scene of an accident.
I think BarbC's post is very appropriate.
 
This sobriquet "Lion of the Senate" is so tiresome. Lions are noble and shouldn't be besmirched with a Kennedy association. Especially when there are several other African animals from which to choose. "Baboon of the Senate" has a nice ring to it. "Jackal of the Senate" perhaps? "Hyena of the Senate" also works particularly well as it may be connected with the "Kennedy compound" at Hyannis Port.

Who thought up the title of "Lion of the Senate" anyway?

Death accomplishes what ignorant Massachusetts voters failed to properly deliver when they cursed this nation with Teddy's lifetime senatorial appointment.

Kennedy was loathsome but stupid voters are the most vexing.
 
bmcgilvray said:
This sobriquet "Lion of the Senate" is so tiresome. Lions are noble and shouldn't be besmirched with a Kennedy association. Especially when there are several other African animals from which to choose. "Baboon of the Senate" has a nice ring to it. "Jackal of the Senate" perhaps? "Hyena of the Senate" also works particularly well as it may be connected with the "Kennedy compound" at Hyannis Port.

Who thought up the title of "Lion of the Senate" anyway?

Death accomplishes what ignorant Massachusetts voters failed to properly deliver when they cursed this nation with Teddy's lifetime senatorial appointment.

Kennedy was loathsome but stupid voters are the most vexing.
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Yes, I think you nailed it with "hyena"
 
Ted Kennedy probably did more damage to this country than anything. He and his fuzzy notions were behind the 1965 revision to the immigration laws, which essentially changed the makeup of this country permanently. Whether that was (is) good or not is up for discussion, but to do it by sleight of hand is another thing.

I think that's where he and a lot of other liberals learned how much change can be rammed through by good old boys in committee. Remember the old saying--"No man's life, liberty, or property is safe when the legislature is in session."

His tenure is just about the same time period in which my faith in government evaporated. Odd.
 
The waitresses' in Palm Beach can now deliver the cocktails without dirty ted pinching their bottoms.
Maybe one of the drug crazed nephews or children will take his seat.
 
smith57 said:
"Texas Star: Couple things here...I was sorry for Mary Jo, but keep in mind that she was knowingly with a married man when he drove off the bridge and drowned her. She was with Teddy because he was famous and showed her a good time, I guess...like the other women who found the Kennedy brothers attractive."

Regardless of any supposed intentions as to the presence of Mary Jo in Ted's car, the point is that he was DUI, failed to render aid in a fatal accident, saved himself, left the scene, and didn't report it until hours afterwards. I would think most of us would most likely be charged with negligent manslaughter, and find ourselves in criminal and civil court.
Ted received a 2 month probated sentence for leaving the scene of an accident.
I think BarbC's post is very appropriate.
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Yes, but both of you misunderstood my point. I wasn't at all excusing Kennedy. I was addressing whether she used good judgement, herself. That DOES NOT mean that I think she got what was coming to her. I'm not that mean-spirited. But she should have behaved differently, and she wouldn't have been in the car with him.

Nor would the girl who went to the Kennedy estate after so many drinks have had a problem had she had better judgement. The Kennedy lad still shouldn't have persisted if she really didn't want to play, though. As for Ted's role in that, I don't recall just what she said he did.

What he SHOULD have done was to tell the nephew to cool it, and seen that the girl got home safely.

As I recall, the jury did acquit the nephew. That says something about what they thought of the matter.

T-Star
 
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I was sorry for Mary Jo, but keep in mind that she was knowingly with a married man when he drove off the bridge and drowned her. She was with Teddy because he was famous and showed her a good time, I guess...like the other women who found the Kennedy brothers attractive.
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Good grief. I can't believe I just read that.

Yup, she got what was coming to her all right.

Mary Jo Kopechne died clawing at the floor boards of her upside down car at the bottom of the river.
 
Bassamatic said:
Good grief. I can't believe I just read that.

Yup, she got what was coming to her all right.

Mary Jo Kopechne died clawing at the floor boards of her upside down car at the bottom of the river.
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Back up a couple of posts. Read what I said. I DID NOT say that I think she deserved what happened to her, just that she should have used better judgement than to get into a car with a man of Kennedy's reputation when he had obviously been drinking. His marital status was also a factor, although she may have just thought he was giving her a ride home.

I am in NO WAY excusing what he did, which I think was typical of his character. I despised the man. I'm just amazed that girls would go anywhere with him. I have my theories why this was, and it applies to other famous men. But I've said enough, particularly as what I said seems to have been misunderstood.
 
""This sobriquet "Lion of the Senate" is so tiresome. Lions are noble and shouldn't be besmirched with a Kennedy association. Especially when there are several other African animals from which to choose. "Baboon of the Senate" has a nice ring to it. "Jackal of the Senate" perhaps? "Hyena of the Senate" also works particularly well as it may be connected with the "Kennedy compound" at Hyannis Port.""


Mort,
I think you owe Baboons, Jackels, and Hyenas an apology.
 
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