Questions for the NY-1 Crowd and Collectors of NYPD Guns Generally . . .

I know this is an old thread, my 60-2 has two markings stamped above the NY-1. Wonder what they are and mean. I bought this gun new from a major sports retail store in Florida in 1989. It is accurate and has a smooth action.
Thanks,

The mark under my NY-1 stamp - if I remember correctly was that this showed that the range inspected this during the recall.

And Florida 1098 is right on the mark - once a year, usually in the summer the bosses wold have us bring in all of our firearms and make sure everything was on the up and up on our 10 cards. I would delay and delay out of pure laziness - until I was threatened with DOA or EDP watching at CIH, KCH, or IZ - all of a sudden my guns were at the desk!
 
Equipment section wound up getting out of the business of selling highway gear - (HWY 95-01) I guess it was too much over-head. I bought all my leather, britches, Sam Brown, Lanyard, etc from Big Apple police equipment in Staten Island - went through around $2,000 in one day between my jacket, boots (Bates Silent Sneakers), a few pair of britches, custom tailored duty shirts, new Summer Blouse with hooks - the summer blouse I actually got from Parks in Brooklyn.
Ok, ok, but inquiring minds want to know where you got the leather underwear. :D
 
Oh, alright, alright. Then just tell me why you guys were always "Hwy not available k"!! :D

The question asked most by civilians is how to get out of a speeding summons.

The question most asked by MOS is how come we're not available - this is hush hush - the moment you guys take the 53 on the Belt - we jump into the precinct for some food on the arm - :o)

Seriously, I know in 5 sometimes we only ran two units for the whole borough, on midnights there were times we had just one, and they would have IDTU and AI duties, so the 122 would have to give us a hand on the SIE, WSE, Veterans, MLK roadways. Can't speak for 1,2,3 (District), and 4.
 
Oh, alright, alright. Then just tell me why you guys were always "Hwy not available k"!! :D

Day tours we were in court, midnights during the 80's and again today there just were not enough cars on patrol. I remember some nights (late tours) where my partner and I would turn out of HWY 1 and have to cover HWY 3. If we got an AI job or IDTU job we'd be O/S the remainder. Thus...the HWY not available K....
 
In the 80's don't know if it was harder to get Highway to respond or Housing. They were both eternally not available K. If you got them to show up they told you it was'nt their job. As a Man North Patrol boss, it drove me nuts. But, now working here in S.Florida can only look back and laugh, love them all.
 
Hi Everyone

Ret MOS you bring great memories

My tax number was 894***

My class was the second or third to have the NY-1 revolver(1988 I think second)
my collection is growing fast with my friends leaving the job.

I love the S&W model 64 four inch the best, but I still have a few 3" around.

I purchased a few at the equipment section all are very well fitted with clean action.

Over the years I did see a bunch of fake NY-1, lot of cylinder bind, my guess some gun stores sent out a bunch of frames to get the NY-1 stamp from some guy having a bad day with the hammer and the yokes were mixed up and made proper fitting near impossible for a quack gunsmith. oh well
the fake stamps are easy to spot.

stay safe!!!

Actually the no dash Model 60 NY-1 Stamping was done at the NYPD Range, here are some pictures of the Punches, The NY-1(and yes it didnt line up straight), The Silhoutte that was stamped under the NY-1 after it passed inspection and the actual Go/No Go gauge that was used on the sideplates to see if the trigger pin hole was within specs. I compared my NY-1 and Silhoutte marking to the punches and its a match. The later NY-1 Model 60-2 were stamped at the factory and were aesthetically more pleasing, I havent seen any -2 model 60's with the silhoutte stamp yet.
 

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Very helpful, and interesting thread. I only have one NY-1, but I hope to eventually get one of each.
 
Actually the no dash Model 60 NY-1 Stamping was done at the NYPD Range, here are some pictures of the Punches, The NY-1Punch (and yes it didnt line up straight), The Silhoutte Punch that was stamped under the NY-1 after it passed inspection and the actual Go/No Go gauge that was used on the sideplates to see if the trigger pin hole was within specs. I compared my NY-1 and Silhoutte marking to the punches and its a match. The later NY-1 Model 60-2 were stamped at the factory and were aesthetically more pleasing, I havent seen any -2 model 60's with the silhoutte stamp yet.

great post, thanks for the education and showing the actual tools....I appreciate it...I had no idea NYPD did their own markings and used a go-no go gauge like that
 
The NYPD has always had officers that are assigned to the range armory as full time gunsmiths, a few have 30 years of service. The later NY-1 stamping done at the factory looked alot neater but, I have to admit over the years I have seen factory stamping from S&W that looked like someone was having a bad day with the hammer and punch also.
 
When a gun was purchased at the Equiptment section it was automatically deemed servicable/authorized. When a gun was purchased from a private vendor it was supposed to be taken to the range and approved/authorized by a range instructor. The only modification allowable was the switching of the wood grips to a rubber approved brand, ( basically Pachymyr ). So as a desk Sgt, when a cop brought me their new weapon the first thing we did was throw away the cheap original grips and put on rubber ones. ( We showed them) Then I would make an entry in the Blotter as to the Weapon, serial #, Mos, and place of purchase etc etc. Finally, we had to fill out and send a form to the NYSP which kept a NYS record of every gun owned in the state. Once a year during inspections we would print out a teletype, sometimes hundreds of pages long with the MOS and every gun registered to him. Well, some of the cops had 50 or more guns at home and impossible to have them carry in and inspect each one. Although I DID it as I was supposed to. Anyway, you can see where some may have slipped through the cracks and ended up for sale, changed, altered, or sold w/o the Department knowing. Some of the precincts had hundreds of cops and you can see the logistics of trying to account for every gun. When I left the Dept had 45,000 members. So that's basically why all these guns have rubber grips and the ( **** ) wooden ones were discarded right into the garbage can under the desk. As my Alzheimer fades and comes will add more. One last thing, with the transition to 9mm's I believe the dept gave you the gun for free, but you were required to buy and show the Desk the leather gear for the gun Belt, Holster etc etc which cost about $150. The transition course from revolver to 9mm was 3 days at the range. Many habits at the range were drilled into you and after 20 plus years I still do. However, here in Florida those habits are deemed wrong, inappropriate, and even dangerous, but that's another thread.

The Equipment Bureau did a little more than just log guns in back in the 1970s. I had a cousin that served 75-99. When he retired he gave me his M10 & M36 with the original boxes and all the paperwork. Included in the paperwork for both guns was a sheet from the Equipment Bureau with a checked off list. The Bureau listed several items including removing the side plate for an inspection of the internal workings. I do not post pictures of this paperwork to prevent some unscrupulous person from making fakes.

I know that graduation classes in the 70s were smaller than the 80s but I cannot imagine how long it took to inspect each gun.
 
How popular are the NYPD Centennials with factory frosted finish? I have a spare one and am looking to sell it off.
 
Does anyone know the serial number range on the 2" model 64's?

LOBO My NY-1 2" 64 is BPDXXXX only 478 2" Roundbutts were made (SCSW 3rd edition)

S. Kelly, what up my friend, Like the prefix on my 64 above lol......Seriously, the 640's as you know are popular, the NYPD variants even more so especially the 640-2 (J Magnum) .38 Special as the box was marked NYPD.............
 
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