The 586 is back!

[18DAI]

Meh...

Overpriced knock off. I'll stick with the forged parts 586's. More gun for my money. YMMV. Regards 18DAI

 

[Old Fashioned Six Shooter]

Overpriced knock off.

While I agree that a Taurus is a knock off of a Smith & Wesson, I'm having a little bit of difficulty with this statement that a new S&W is a "knock off" of an old one. So is a new Ford Mustang a knock off of an old Ford Mustang just because the new one uses aluminum parts in the place of some of the steel parts on the old one and the new one has a security system that the old one lacked?

 

[stantheman86]

The new "Classic" Model 15 looks a lot like a 19 If S&W would just make these as Classic 19's they would sell a bundle of them! They even have a shrouded extractor rod!

 

[Retired W4]

I just paid $535 for my 586 (no dash) 4'' last weekend. Came in original box with papers and has zero signs of usage on it. Shes a beauty.

I would say that's a great price for the gun you described, even after paying tax, if you did. I have a thing for those no dash 586's, in any barrel length. Enjoy. I know I would.

 

[SJshooter]

Hey SJshooter.... that's some gap you got there between the frame & the shroud.

I'm pretty sure what you are seeing is just a reflection from the light box I shot this in.

 

[GyMac]

The new "Classic" Model 15 looks a lot like a 19 If S&W would just make these as Classic 19's they would sell a bundle of them! They even have a shrouded extractor rod!

Wow! I just checked out the picture of the "Classic" Model 15. It may be a fine gun, but what is classic about a Model 15 with a shrouded extractor?

 

[Stu Honea]

Sorry,guys. These pieces of history,as S&W refers to them,are just not the same. I carried a custom tuned 586 with one S.O .I worked with and it was a sweet revo,with polished and rounded trigger.
I'd be hard pressed to buy one of these new ones without the hammer mounted pin.I'll never buy an S&W revo with a lock,either.
I'm actually on the lookout for another 586,but they are hard to find and high dollar when you do.That,tho,is the only way I'd ever be happy. I lived in the age of real S&W revolvers,and carried them for a living,and could never be satisfied with anything but the original.

 

[SJshooter]

Okay, fine, not the same -- but I have the above pictured 586-7 with the lock, and it is an awesome shooter. The blueing is really good, the timing is perfect, the lockup is old-school tight, it is a total tack driver, and you can shoot this thing all day and it begs for more. This is my only S&W with a lock, and I don't like the lock, and I have no idea where the key is, but this gun is just head-to-toe fun fun fun. So in that regard, it is just like every other L-frame ever made.

 

[Bluelou]

Gumpys . I take it you don't like new s&w.

 

[steamloco76]

Okay, fine, not the same -- but I have the above pictured 586-7 with the lock, and it is an awesome shooter. The blueing is really good, the timing is perfect, the lockup is old-school tight, it is a total tack driver, and you can shoot this thing all day and it begs for more. This is my only S&W with a lock, and I don't like the lock, and I have no idea where the key is, but this gun is just head-to-toe fun fun fun. So in that regard, it is just like every other L-frame ever made.

Great post!

I have several 'lock model' S&W's, admittedly all but two purchased used. The blued ones I own have finishes as nice as any guns done since the switch in bluing methods. The medium and large frame guns ALL have extremely good triggers and are all well timed, lock-up tight and shoot very well.

We should be glad that S&W still makes the number of revolver models they do. The abject hatred of every single S&W manufactured since the dawn of MIM and the lock is just plain silly. With that attitude, we should all be driving 1970's gas hog cars that rusted out in three years, watching console TV's with vacuum tubes, wearing polyester leisure suits, drinking Schmidt's beer out of steel cans and listening to music on 8 track tapes!

 

[buckeye14]

here are my two

 

[J. W.]

Now, if they'd just make a 7 shot 3" model I'd be all over it!

 

[Stu Honea]

I see that I have stirred the pot.Makes for interesting conversation.The guns do look nice,of course. The locks can be successfully removed also,of course,I'm just not of a mind to take the trouble.I love those 70's gas hogs too! I call them road hogs.Had a real slick Grand Torino back in the days of Starsky and Hutch.Carried a Mod.39 too. That is,a Mod.39-2,also.
Don't mind me guys.You'll eventually catch onto my brand of humor.

 

[Highland416]

Sorry to resurrect this thread, but just what is a SHOT show special? Hopefully just a new introduction done at SHOT.

And how long before they show up in stores?

 

[Sportsterguy]

You do realize that Jerry is not shooting the same out-of-the-box stock revolvers that we are buying and shooting, don't you?
Jerry himself would tell you that a bone stock S&W could never hold up to the punishment he gives his guns. First off, the timing is way off for the speed with which he shoots. Second, he has to constantly retune & replace parts.

Believe me, Jerry's guns are a far cry from what they were when they first came out of the factory.

Nailed that one! I've said it numerous times on here. When I saw a IL 686 lock itself up at a match I became a disbeliever and still am. If I were to buy a new model first thing I'd do is disable the IL and plug it. For the price of a new model one can go out and find a very nice one way cheaper.

It's America and one's choice on what gun catches your fancy. If you want a new model go for it. That 586 does look great except for the useless hole.

With all of the problem guns showing up in this section I'll continue buying used until they get rid of the hole and their QA dept. gets it's **** together. JMO

Gotta go, hop into my 1982 Ford F-100 with the 300 straight six that still runs like a champ as I can work on it and buy some Budweisers in the old recycled cans

 

[gr7070]

Nailed that one! I've said it numerous times on here. When I saw a IL 686 lock itself up at a match I became a disbeliever and still am. If I were to buy a new model first thing I'd do is disable the IL and plug it. For the price of a new model one can go out and find a very nice one way cheaper.

It's America and one's choice on what gun catches your fancy. If you want a new model go for it. That 586 does look great except for the useless hole.

With all of the problem guns showing up in this section I'll continue buying used until they get rid of the hole and their QA dept. gets it's **** together. JMO

Gotta go, hop into my 1982 Ford F-100 with the 300 straight six that still runs like a champ as I can work on it and buy some Budweisers in the old recycled cans

Actually, he didn't nail it at all.

Jerry's guns are not that heavily modified. None of the parts are swapped out to make it more reliable - to make it last longer.

The locks are removed for one big reason, and it's not the reason that most post about here, it's because removing the lock can help remove another ounce or two off the trigger pull, at most. And *unless* one reloads, uses fully seat Federal primers, removes the hammer spur, etc. removing the lock really doesn't even matter.

See my previous post about this. Jerry's revolvers are not that different than the one's we buy and shoot. The big difference is the trigger job, grips and sights, and that's mostly it.

 

[andyo5]

Did you notice the grips? They are the old style presentation grips, as last seen in the 1980s.

 

[LouisianaJoe]

There are a couple 586's on gunbroker.

 

[stevieboy]

I used to own a couple of post-lock 686's. They were among the most accurate and reliable shooters of any Smith revolvers I've owned or fired and neither the lock nor the guns' MIM parts bothered me an iota. I sold them only because my taste in revolvers migrated slightly. I purchased a shooter grade 27 because I decided that the massive Ns were a better platform for extended sessions of .357 than were my two Ls. And, I bought a 2 1/2" 19 for carry. That said, the new 586 will be a helluva handgun if its performance matches that of those post-lock 686s.

 

[Mike SC Hunter]

It just hit me that I'm sure it will also share the 686's ECM/EDM/whatever it's called non lead bullet friendly barrel. I will continue to hold out for a real 586 or maybe even a 581.

Ironically........ALL my newer Smiths shoot my cast bullets just fine. No leading problems at all. In fact some have never had a jacketed bullet through them.