Gun range reports law-abiding customers to police.

That wouldn't bother me but I wonder why people get in an uproar over something that LEs are working weeding out the criminal elements.

I have nothing to hide. Do you? :rolleyes:
It's backdoor registration and registration has NO purpose apart from facilitating future CONFISCATION.

Please explain [in detail] how that PD is going to do a BETTER background check than the FEDERAL one.

Take as much space as you like...
 
That wouldn't bother me but I wonder why people get in an uproar over something that LEs are working weeding out the criminal elements.

I have nothing to hide. Do you? :rolleyes:

As an LEO I can tell you this stuff is going on more than you realize, and no it isn't ok. As long as we keep this "if you're not doing anything wrong so it should not bother you." BS we are going to have every right we have taken away by our own apathy.
 
I call your attention to the following rules:
2. Remember- opinions will differ. Get over it. State your opinion calmly, and allow others to state theirs. Discussion will be fine, but there is no need to take a thread into a verbal fistfight or shouting match.

3. Do NOT descend into personal attacks on a member.
Naiveté, or viewpoints different from yours are no reason to call a member an idiot or moron.

Focus on the issues, NOT each other.
 
There is a large retailer of firearms locally. I'm sure he knows a small percentage of the firearms sold will eventually be used in crime. Since we already "insta-check", should he transmit all data to the Orlando PD/OCSD/FDLE and let them "have a look?" Maybe he should close all his retail locations and give up selling firearms. That would be the "moral high road" given the possibilities. I guess GM should stop selling cars because a small percentage of them will have a DWI driver eventually? All McDonalds should also close because a small percentage of people will "misuse" their product and die of CVD? Don't get me started on tobacco because it is a product that will kill you when used properly. How should the .gov move on that? Once you go down the "reasonable" road all reason is lost along with freedom eventually. Joe
 
Really? If someone practices shooting extensively by making frequent visits to a commercial shooting range, how would he be "pinched"? What violation would the police charge him with?

the same name comes up over and over ... its only natural for an antigun official to get a set of eyes on him. the pinch need not be firearm related. it can be simple city ordnance violations or anything overlooked. with well over 20,000 laws on the books, we are all dreaming if we really think we are not in violation of a few of them
 
What scares me a lot is the amount of video surveillance that is all around us and most people are unaware. There is no where around here that you are not being recorded.

So I am sure these stores/shop/range whatever also have everyone recorded. What use it is, I do not know, but in the hands of someone it could be used against you.

There is no privacy. So much is "Public Record".

It's pretty scary.

Person of Interest TV show is probably not too far off.
 
I suggest outdoor ranges in light of this particular range.

I have never seen a camera at the outdoor range I attend. I doubt the rangemaster's family run business is sending anything to anyone.
 
That wouldn't bother me but I wonder why people get in an uproar over something that LEs are working weeding out the criminal elements.

I have nothing to hide. Do you? :rolleyes:

If we continually allow or freedoms to be attacked and whittled away without putting up a fight then one day we will wake up to find that we have no freedoms left to fight for.
 
That wouldn't bother me but I wonder why people get in an uproar over something that LEs are working weeding out the criminal elements.

I have nothing to hide. Do you? :rolleyes:

Maybe we could just send a monthly report to our local Law Enforcement Official of our activities for the month. I have nothing to hide either, but I don't believe we need to report all our lawful activities. Seems we have something called The Constitution, to protect us from this sort of thing.
 
Maybe we could just send a monthly report to our local Law Enforcement Official of our activities for the month. I have nothing to hide either, but I don't believe we need to report all our lawful activities. Seems we have something called The Constitution, to protect us from this sort of thing.

whats worse is that when you really read between the lines in the story, it sounds like it may very well have been a condition for doing business. If so, it speaks volumes about problems.
 
Originally Posted by HalfStack
That wouldn't bother me but I wonder why people get in an uproar over something that LEs are working weeding out the criminal elements.

I have nothing to hide. Do you?

So by the same standards it would be ok if the cops walk through your house seaching..............shouldn't bother you , you got nothng to hide, Right?
 
That wouldn't bother me but I wonder why people get in an uproar over something that LEs are working weeding out the criminal elements.

I have nothing to hide. Do you? :rolleyes:
No i have nothing to hide either but do you want "Big Brother"
notified every time you take a **** or get a cup of coffee?
Attitudes like this are why we are losing our freedoms.
What could be wrong with this ???
I don't mind if it catches a criminal or two....
It's absolutely NOONES business what i do or don't do with my guns unless i choose to tell them.
I have NOT commited any crimes in going to a gun range
to shoot in peace have I ???
People, and Places like this range are why i'm very thankful
i have a friend nearby with a farm i can shoot all or any of
my guns in peace.

Chuck---A law abiding citizen--
 
What------------no blame for the Chief of Police and his department. IMHO it is wrong what the store is doing but there should be blame to the police also.
 
What------------no blame for the Chief of Police and his department. IMHO it is wrong what the store is doing but there should be blame to the police also.
As Nancy Reagan used to say, "Just say no."

They have no more duty to comply, absent a warrant, than they would if the police demanded customers' credit card numbers.

This was obviously VOLUNTARY action, as there was no legal mechanism employed to COMPEL it.
 
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I have nothing to hide either,but the range owners AND the Chief(department) seem to be pushing it a mite too far by doing this. Big brother is always watching,but this is just one more step in the direction of total control of the citizenry.
There has to be a cut off point where it becomes un reasonable to pry further into one's personal affairs.
 
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