Illinois is at it again

[GianniG83]

The national debate is far from over I believe. I fear that this is going to get really ugly.

 

[66Park]

The hearings start tomorrow, so please make sure to voice your opinion today, and if you can get to either of the hearings, please do.

 

[sarge1967]

Anyone hear any news from the Communists in Springfield and their hearing today?

 

[bitstream]

How does Illinois square this with the order they were given to either write a law allowing CCW or the Judge would rule from the bench to allow it?

 

[sarge1967]

Democrats don't care what courts say. They do what they want and we allow them to get away with it.

 

[HankG]

If a concealed carry law is passed in Illinois, it will be filled with so many restrictions that the average shooter will never be given the right to carry in a concealed manner ( check New York). Chicago will not give up it's ability to control Springfield. It was put in place over decades by the Democratic machine and controlled by enough lawyers keep this thing going round and round until hell freezes over. Lived in this state my whole life and have watched it being put into place year by year. I sincerely hope I'm wrong..I have a Utah permit and a Florida permit because I travel but I am considered a criminal in my home state, the State of Illinois, the Land of Lincoln.

 

[sarge1967]

If a concealed carry law is passed in Illinois, it will be filled with so many restrictions that the average shooter will never be given the right to carry in a concealed manner ( check New York). Chicago will not give up it's ability to control Springfield. It was put in place over decades by the Democratic machine and controlled by enough lawyers keep this thing going round and round until hell freezes over. Lived in this state my whole life and have watched it being put into place year by year. I sincerely hope I'm wrong..I have a Utah permit and a Florida permit because I travel but I am considered a criminal in my home state, the State of Illinois, the Land of Lincoln.

Exactly, I have been telling all my friends who are excited about CC this very thing. We will never see it.

 

[venomballistics]

Perhaps one State should try confiscation, just to see what we do about it?

If they try and the citizenry complies, its proof to the heads that it can be done, thus, will be done en mass. This would lead to a further imbalance favoring the criminal elements as is evidenced in all cities that have favored strict gun control.
If they try and the citizenry fails to comply, but rather fights. we have streets soaked with blood and civil war.

bottom line ... let's not and say we did.
the attempt itself has dire consequences no matter how it plays.

 

[Alnamvet68]

Well, well....so they want to confiscate 85% of all handguns in Illinois, which by my best guestimate represents the percentage of law abiding citizens who own handguns, and who commit no crimes. That other 15%, I am to assume reprents the bottom feeders of their society, who all possess handguns and other weapons illegally, and are responsible for probably 100% of all violent handgun crime in Illinois.

So what are they going to do when the crime wave continues to rise and the lawfull citizenry have been completely disarmed...who and what are they going to blame for nothing changing; and why are the police so afraid of trying to confiscate guns from the bad guys?

 

[army35d]

If a concealed carry law is passed in Illinois, it will be filled with so many restrictions that the average shooter will never be given the right to carry in a concealed manner ( check New York). Chicago will not give up it's ability to control Springfield. It was put in place over decades by the Democratic machine and controlled by enough lawyers keep this thing going round and round until hell freezes over. Lived in this state my whole life and have watched it being put into place year by year. I sincerely hope I'm wrong..I have a Utah permit and a Florida permit because I travel but I am considered a criminal in my home state, the State of Illinois, the Land of Lincoln.

Wrong. The 7th Circuit's decision means that Illinois MUST pass a carry law within 180 days. If they do not, the prohibition on concealed carry goes away (per the court's decision) with absolutely zero legislation to replace it. In other words, Illinois would become a constitutional carry state overnight. Do you think the liberals in IL are going to let that happen?!

The lawmakers in Illinois that would like to see you and I disarmed rolled the dice in a big way on the court decision, and they lost. They have no negotiating power left. If they try to write/amend a bill that doesn't please the pro-gun members of the IL house and senate, it will be filibustered and the 180-day stay will expire. They have to either create or get on board with legislation that the republicans and pro-cc dems (ie; all of them except the ones in Cook County) will accept. In other words, "shall issue."

My fear at this point is that CC will pass, and Quinn will add an AWB by amendatory veto. He's already tried it once.

 

[blazzinbird]

Wrong. The 7th Circuit's decision means that Illinois MUST pass a carry law within 180 days. If they do not, the prohibition on concealed carry goes away (per the court's decision) with absolutely zero legislation to replace it. In other words, Illinois would become a constitutional carry state overnight. Do you think the liberals in IL are going to let that happen?!

The lawmakers in Illinois that would like to see you and I disarmed rolled the dice in a big way on the court decision, and they lost. They have no negotiating power left. If they try to write/amend a bill that doesn't please the pro-gun members of the IL house and senate, it will be filibustered and the 180-day stay will expire. They have to either create or get on board with legislation that the republicans and pro-cc dems (ie; all of them except the ones in Cook County) will accept. In other words, "shall issue."

My fear at this point is that CC will pass, and Quinn will add an AWB by amendatory veto. He's already tried it once.

I don't think Quinn will do that, what we need it hb0997 to pass. It has 44 co sponsors. One thing we must watch out for is a may issue conceal carry

 

[Vegetaman]

Exactly, I have been telling all my friends who are excited about CC this very thing. We will never see it.

Myself included. I figure after legal wrangling and restrictions it'll be 5 years before anything comes of it, and none of us will like the result.

 

[army35d]

I don't think Quinn will do that

I sure hope you are right

 

[HereSinceTheLongHunters]

The word is Desecration.
Keep up the good fight, Illinois. Maybe they'll be a few free states left to cause dissonance with the rest.

 

[NPD]

I filled out slips too. I sure hope we finally get to legally protect ourselves here. I wish there was a statewide referendum on CCW. People need to stay vigilant and fill out slips, call their reps as often as possible.