Ignorance Is No Excuse

[AZretired]

For a State that claims to be conservative and "Free", Texas sure has some stupid laws.

 

[Old TexMex]

Thank heavens for the delete button.
I'm SO glad nothing like this happens up north.http://www.pafoa.org/law/carrying-firearms/open-carry
I won't be open carrying in Philadelphia anytime soon, even though Penn is a totally gun friendly state. Seems there are some varied reports about the treatment of us there, too. Only by working together can we all overcome this silliness.

I'm with you there Dave, a mistake by a couple young troopers has shamed our state, and the detractors will line up to point fingers at the Lone Star State. We got big shoulders, bring it on.

As far as stupid laws, the men arrested didn't break the law, the young troopers didn't KNOW the law.

 

[ladder13]

Thank heavens for the delete button.
I'm SO glad nothing like this happens up north.Openly Carrying a Firearm/Gun in Pennsylvania
I won't be open carrying in Philadelphia anytime soon, even though Penn is a totally gun friendly state. Seems there are some varied reports about the treatment of us there, too. Only by working together can we all overcome this silliness.

I'm with you there Dave, a mistake by a couple young troopers has shamed our state, and the detractors will line up to point fingers at the Lone Star State. We got big shoulders, bring it on.

As far as stupid laws, the men arrested didn't break the law, the young troopers didn't KNOW the law.

People are quick to point fingers, as if where they live is perfection. Living in NY, I obviously see it all the time, then I point out the negativities in their state and they clam up.
If you're looking for heaven it isn't here on earth.

 

[keith44spl]

I'm camped in the Bluegrass state right now, will be back on the Red River next month.

The thing I found mostly, to my own amusement, one can see folks of all walks of life open carrying a sidearm in public places,
it doesn't cause any undue alarm, that I can see.

I think it's a traditional thing here, plus I haven't run into anyone that cares one way or the other.

In Louisville, Lexington it is frowned upon by the local constabulary.
In the Metroplex, Houston, and evidently Austin, open carrying is a serious matter and more than frowned upon, it's a violation of Texas law.

I said all of that, to say this....
'While one jurisdiction has no tolerance, another jurisdiction tolerates another's intolerance.'

As Baxter Black sez, "From out thar!"


Oh, by the way, I have personally arrested dangerous criminals, fugitives and killers,
never had to be overly aggressive or a bully about it, I never made it personal.

Why do some LEOs try to make a spectacle of a simple violation or misdemeanor, is beyond me.

I've worked with a few veteran officers that did not know anything about the juriditions firearms laws...
And didn't care, they jest tried to make em up as they went along.

I called one of them on an incident....One said "He didn't agree with the statutes!"

My reply was,"Write your legislator!"

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[Retired LTC USAR]

I'm camped in the Bluegrass state right now, will be back on the Red River next month.


In Louisville, Lexington it is frowned upon by the local constabulary.
In the Metroplex, Houston, and evidently Austin, open carrying is a serious matter and more than frowned upon, it's a violation of Texas law.


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I have seen a few individuals in Lexington open carry and never saw the police called...........Don't know why you think it is frowned upon???

 

[25elk]

My stepson recently was detained and escorted to his truck here in GA for openly wearing a pistol into Walmart late at night. Granted, this was stupid but he is still at an age where he has his rights and he knows the law. Fortunately he chose not to push the issue and locked the gun in a safe in his tool box while the officer watched. The next day he visited with the probate judge who is in charge of issuing CCL's here in GA and the officer and the entire local PD were ordered to re-training on the issue of open and concealed carry. I have no doubt that if he had protested in the least I would have been making that midnight drive downtown. There are many LEO's that are not aware of the constantly changing laws regarding firearms. Proceed with caution.

 

[keith44spl]

I have seen a few individuals in Lexington open carry and never saw the police officers called...........Don't know why you think it is frowned upon???

Wells I tell ya,

I was in Frankfort at the KSP Headquarters for 'response to active shooter' training and a few of Jefferson County and Fayette County's police
were in attendance, some discouraging words were uttered by a few of those boys on the subject of the citizenry carrying sidearms openly and
a few seem to act like they felt somewhat threatened by the very thought of armed citizens....Can't figger that one out.

That was just my personal observations and first hand account of what is just a small
percentage of officers working those jurisdictions.

I felt that, they exhibited a air of superiority over the common folk that they were sworn to protect and serve....

But maybe that's just me, or I mis-understood their intent.

And even within the DOCJT which over sees the CCDW program
there are some *DOCJT Instructors, that are not necessarily pro gun by any means.

*Those instructors are the ones responsible for in-service training of LEOs

So, like I said, I saw both sides and have reached the age where I don't give a hoot what other folks do,
as long as I don't get caught in the crossfire.

Just think it's a shame for folks to get hassled for something of lit'l or of no consequence.


That is all........

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Su Amigo,
Dave


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[Old TexMex]

I'm camped in the Bluegrass state right now, will be back on the Red River next month.
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In the Metroplex, Houston, and evidently Austin, open carrying is a serious matter and more than frowned upon, it's a violation of Texas law.



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Dave, don't forget Denton, Texas--- they're tryin' to turn that into another Austin(San Francisco).

 

[keith44spl]

Dave, don't forget Denton, Texas--- they're tryin' to turn that into another Austin(San Francisco).

Yup,

I don't know why those smart lawyers and politicians can't figger it out...

It's not what on a man's hip....It's what's in his heart that counts.


There are good men all among us....
Let them be counted and ready'd before the times that they might be needed.

As the words of that country song, "If you don't stand for something...You will fall for anything!"

These are peculiar times we're living in for sure.

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[wbraswell]

For those of you who think that your state doesn't have stupid laws, I suggest you read up, before you start pointing fingers at Texas. We probably don't have as many stupid laws as we have stupid legislators. I will admit we did have 2 U.S. Presidents that weren't exactly Mensa material.

 

[poordevil]

Yeah, the courts sort it out later, but the guys who have to go thru the process are still out the time and money necessary to protect themselves....

and the stigma of having been arrested with the attendant explaining that goes along with it. So one has the right to do a thing, but gets bullied and harassed, arrested and made to be fearful so they don't do it again. So you have the right to do it.....but you better not, or else!

 

[redsox617]

My Dad was a MASS trooper and he used to say that all the time. He also said the LEO is not your friend and I have found that true more often than not. Sad to say most of us are caught betweencops and bad guys. Know your state laws, make NO statements, hire a FIREARMS lawyer and dont be intimidated. They want to close cases, and a 4 minute response time is ****