M&P Pistols to Fall Off CA DOJ Approved List

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PastureOfMuppets said:
It's getting so bad here... we need support in pushing back... yet again. There is legal action, the second amendment foundation is here and Calguns are always pushing back.

This is the kind of **** we are dealing with:

CA Sen. Kevin DeLeon on Those Spooky 'Ghost Guns' | The Truth About Guns
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I watched the entire 20 minute press conference earlier today, and it gets even better, he shows an automatic sniper weapon and claims that the lower receiver is the engine to the AR-15. This guy is so ignorant, and uneducated in firearms, and these are the types of individuals that are passing legislation in states like CA, and are pushing federal legislation. This guy knows nothing about the AR-15. A side note, in the full video, he pulls up the "automatic sniper weapon" and the bipod is mounted backwards. It's funny to see the LE officers behind him roll their eyes as he speaks his nonsense.
 
Nakanokalronin said:
They need to drop sales to LE agencies there as well. If the firearms industry as a whole could do that, then maybe they would listen. CA is such a disease in this country.
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Hmmm, denying gun ownership to those who should have them....where have we heard that before?
 
Mr. Satchmo said:
I watched the entire 20 minute press conference earlier today, and it gets even better, he shows an automatic sniper weapon and claims that the lower receiver is the engine to the AR-15. This guy is so ignorant, and uneducated in firearms, and these are the types of individuals that are passing legislation in states like CA, and are pushing federal legislation. This guy knows nothing about the AR-15. A side note, in the full video, he pulls up the "automatic sniper weapon" and the bipod is mounted backwards. It's funny to see the LE officers behind him roll their eyes as he speaks his nonsense.
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So when will someone get the guts to put these guys in their place? Could it be the LE officers are Sheeple as well?????

Urban Dictionary: sheeple
 
Comrad said:
Hmmm, denying gun ownership to those who should have them....where have we heard that before?
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I'm not sure what you mean. Are you saying LE should still be able to purchase whatever they want in CA while citizens continue to be disarmed?
 
This is all due to Kalifornia's ridiculous firing pin imprint law. ALL of the gun manufacturer's are refusing to put these special firing pins in new pistols, and instead are just selling to the rest of the free (and semi-free) states. The window for purchasing handguns in this Kommunist state is slowly closing.
 
It is sad. Believe me, the politicians could care less about the crime rate.

If I was younger, I would leave this state. I hope to someday when I retire.

I was going to buy a MP 9C after tax returns get done, guess not! Happy I have my MP 45 and MP 9 though.

Best

Bob
 
The Shield and SDVE guns were probably Listed recently enough that they are allowed for a while without the hypothetical microstamping requirement of newly listed or relisted guns.

Why don't the cops need microstamping?
 
Law enforcement is not bound by same rule us civilians are. They are allowed to buy handguns not approved for sale to the rest of the population for duty or personnel use. I guess in the eyes of the legislators there special!
 
The sad thing about the micro stamping requirement or any other such ridiculousness is the ultimate goal of the law.

The ultimate goal isn't to make it easier to track gun usage in a crime, but rather to make it overly complicated or expensive to manufacture and sell a firearm. This will cause manufacturers to give up and now you have the desired effect of the gun banners... A gun ban.

Trigger pull weight, magazine limitations, magazine safeties, guns not on the approved list, etc, etc... These are all attempts to make it harder for the law abiding to purchase and own a gun.

It is time to vote these people out of office and take back your rights. Unfortunately, I think it is too late for some locals.

Edmo
 
BobsSmith said:
Law enforcement is not bound by same rule us civilians are. They are allowed to buy handguns not approved for sale to the rest of the population for duty or personnel use. I guess in the eyes of the legislators there special!
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Problem is LEOs are citizens as well. They're not special and most I've seen at the range look like amateurs considering their groups when they reel the targets back in.
 
I'm glad they are taking this stand on the micro stamping, but I think the actual effect of their action to let their pistols expire is not going to be a significant impact to the non-LEO gun buyers. If you look at the current roster, you'll see something on the order of about 300 models listed, which sounds good. However most of those are revolvers. Of the semiautos, the largest group look like 22's. Of the non 22's, it looks like the next largest percentages are 3rd gen and SW99 models. I don't believe any of the E Series 1911 were ever certified in CA, so most of the SW1911s on the list also aren't catalogued or readily available any more. By the time you take away all the models that are essentially not available any more as new stock and aren't the couple of Shield models made for CA, there are about 8 M&P models that are on the list that will not be renewed. The roster has already been effectively a ban that has built up over time and its limit to accessing S&Ws happened a long time ago.
 
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