Interesting questin: How many rounds?

[venomballistics]

my answer revolves around the capacity of a car and the Rhodesian drill.
15 rounds minimum, to drop everyone who came out of that car. Odds are I will never need that much before resolution is achieved

 

[coltle6920]

Do we need only five rds for concealed carry or do we need more. That should be up to the wants of the individual and not even an argument here.You can give any scenario you can think of and something else will occur.

You can cite all the statistics you want about LEO and the percentage of shots fired versus hits and it isn't necessarily comforting to someone like me the average citizen who practices but still doesn't know how he'll react in a life or death situation.At least in home defense one would think the homeowner would have the advantage to some degree.

Someone in this thread talked about 5rds being sufficient vs 13rds.You might stop the threat with 5 or less shots fired but then again you might not.I'd rather know that I have 8 more rds just in case.

I also think another variable might be if your position in a situation is purely defensive or offensive.Are you defending yourself personally or did a situation arise while you were in a diner eating and you decided to take an offensive position in taking down the perp.

Sorry if I wander a bit but if we were all as good a shot as they are in the movies a six shot revolver would be all we would ever need.

 

[RobertJ.]

I think this is more important than any discussion of how many rounds.

I don't have statistics to back this up, but I'll bet those who carry are less likely to get in situations where they need to defend themselves.

I would hope this is true for most of us.

I know that for me, "situational awareness" is my first line of defense.

My EDC is a Colt Detective Special. I carry one speed strip. Like a previous poster stated, if you need to reload, you're up a creek anyway. And if I have a chance to reload, there's a pretty good chance I can run for it!

Lately, however, I have started carrying my Model 39 once in a while, depending where I'm at. I didn't want to start carrying it before I had a chance to practice with the first shot DA, second shot SA. It took a little time to get the hang of that! But with that and a back up mag, I have 17 rounds total, and I'm comfortable with that.

 

[OldAFVet]

I carry whatever my gun-of-the-day holds. It's to get me out of the fight, not keep me in it.

 

[Rastoff]

Something tells me that's the way you teach your classes.

Indeed. I would rather my students use their superior intelligence in order to avoid having to use superior skill.

 

[TexasArmed]

I think carrying five or six rounds is fine. To carry more than that can put you in bad light if you were ever forced to draw and fire your weapon. Carrying more than one weapon,IMO, could indicate to an attorney that you were looking for a fight.

I think we should get over the Zombie B.S. and get on with life. Carry a firearm with the hope you never fire it. Go to the range, practice and shoot as much as you want. Be prepared to defend yourself and your loved ones, the rest will have to take the responsiblity to do the same.

If it is a home invasion I will stop the threat!

Good Luck

I would have to disagree regarding carrying two guns being interpreted as looking for a fight. I carry two revolvers, which hold five rounds each, that's a total of 10 rounds. That is still less rounds than one person carrying a semi automatic and one 15 round magazine. Normally I carry at least 4 speed loaders, two with 44 special rounds and two with 38 Special P+ rounds. If I should on occasion carrying only one revolver then I carry 15 of the 44 Special rounds in 3 speed loader, if I carry only the 38 Special I carry 4 speed loaders, (20 rounds). One of the reasons I carry two revolvers is for a difference in situations. With a pocket holster I can place my hand on the gun without un-concealing if need be. But I am not in a contest to carry the least number of rounds or handguns I need. Two is all I can comfortably manage. While I don't think I will encounter a zombie or a knockout player, I do not play such games, but if I do encounter one who attacks me he will be leaking badly. I stop doing physical fights long before I got to be an old man.

 

[Philadelphia Patriot]

I carry either 10 rounds or 17 rounds in my Ruger SR9c, 17 rounds in my M&P 9, or 8 rounds in my American Classic 1911 Commander (while carrying my Ruger LCP as a BUG). Recently, I've also been carrying my Ruger LCP as my BUG in my jacket's chest/document pocket, no matter which primary EDC gun I choose. I think I'm going to get an ankle holster for the LCP soon. In the Summer, I'll probably only carry one gun since I'll only be wearing a t-shirt and shorts.

 

[Philadelphia Patriot]

I'd like to add it's not easy to draw while driving my truck if I only have one gun in a hip holster. My Ruger LCP in my jacket's chest/document pocket makes drawing while driving very easy. I use to have a Ruger LCR with an ankle holster, and it was very easy to draw from my ankle while sitting in my truck too. I don't care what others think about "looking for a fight" while carrying two guns. If....IF I am lucky to survive the encounter, I'll deal with the judge and jury when the time comes.

 

[Capt.Jim]

Well, since I am a gentleman here is my opinion.

Video explores the concept of "what MINIMUM round capacity is enough for civilians to carry around without risking their safety in a self defense situation outside of their home or business"...
Then he goes in to the statistics to point out how many rounds ever needed for a self defense situation by civilians.

He is just pointing out that the statistics indicates that it is a very, very slim to none chance that a CCW will ever;
-involve in a situation where a gun will be needed for self-defense,
and even if that situation arises;
-just presenting the gun will solve the problem most of the times,
if the gun's presentation wasn't enough to stop the threat and the gun has to be fired, again;
-in most of those cases gun was fired only once...
and if one shot didn't end the situation, in very extremely rare cases;
-a maximum of 3 shots were sufficient to end the self defense situation.

So based on that data, his conclusion developed as "you'll be ok if you are carrying a 5 round revolver".

Somebody above mentioned very correctly. If you have to reload (no matter what capacity of a gun) you are NOT in a self defense situation. You are in a gun battle!

So, this video presents an opinion that carrying a 5 round capacity revolver is sufficient enough for a CCW without risking safety in almost every self defense case.

He is just making that point! That's all!

Again, not a rule... Just a point!
You carry whatever make you feel safer. Agreed!

The point is, if you are carrying 10+1 in the gun and another 20 rounds in two extra magazines, it is just because that's what make you feel safe, otherwise NOT because most self defense situations require 15-20 or even more rounds to be fired!

The message I got from this video is, any CCW out there doesn't have to feel unsafe IF not carrying a 17 round capacity semi-auto with 2 extra magazines.

This may be a controversial issue over here but I agree with the point he makes!

 

[Smoke]

my answer revolves around the capacity of a car and the Rhodesian drill.
15 rounds minimum, to drop everyone who came out of that car. Odds are I will never need that much before resolution is achieved

What if the car is full of Circus clowns and 23 of them pile out of that Mini C per?

 

[Smoke]

On a serious note I carry 2 reloads, so 33 and 36 rounds respectively. I don't see that it's takes up that much space and it's better to have and not need and all that.

 

[Smoke]

I also think another variable might be if your position in a situation is purely defensive or offensive.Are you defending yourself personally or did a situation arise while you were in a diner eating and you decided to take an offensive position in taking down the perp.

As a private citizen with no duty to respond (IMO) I should never be in an offensive position. I didn't get a CHP so I could "take down perps" according to the letter that came with the card my CHP is for the defense of myself and family when all other measures have failed.

 

[Protected One]

So, this video presents an opinion that carrying a 5 round capacity revolver is sufficient enough for a CCW without risking safety in almost every self defense case.

I agree with your take on the point of the video, and you stated it very, very well!

More "specifically" though, his point is that carrying 5 rounds (revolver or other) is sufficient without risking safety in almost every self defense situation.

 

[Protected One]

The odds that the guy offered in the vid are misleading. If you are a street corner drug dealer you're a bunch more likely to be involved in a shooting than average law abiding Joe not involved in criminal or other high risk activities. The shootings around here are generally confined to certain areas. Stay away from those areas and you are safer carrying nothing than wandering around in those areas with 100rds.

IMO, carrying your head on straight is generally more effective than carrying more ammo in the life of average Joe.

5 shot revolver and LCP.

Not misleading at all; the street corner drug dealer is NOT your average citizen (just as LEO's are not) and thus, are not included in his odds.:

 

[Protected One]

Do we need only five rds for concealed carry or do we need more. That should be up to the wants of the individual and not even an argument here.You can give any scenario you can think of and something else will occur.

You can cite all the statistics you want about LEO and the percentage of shots fired versus hits and it isn't necessarily comforting to someone like me the average citizen who practices but still doesn't know how he'll react in a life or death situation.At least in home defense one would think the homeowner would have the advantage to some degree.

Someone in this thread talked about 5rds being sufficient vs 13rds.You might stop the threat with 5 or less shots fired but then again you might not.I'd rather know that I have 8 more rds just in case.

I also think another variable might be if your position in a situation is purely defensive or offensive.Are you defending yourself personally or did a situation arise while you were in a diner eating and you decided to take an offensive position in taking down the perp.

Sorry if I wander a bit but if we were all as good a shot as they are in the movies a six shot revolver would be all we would ever need.

There is certainly a difference between what is "statistically" needed and what someone "feels" is needed.
Almost everyone feels the need to carry more than 5 rounds, but the video addresses what is typically need in actual occurances.....big difference.

 

[islamoradamark]

carry what ever makes u feel safe and secure

 

[Protected One]

carry what ever makes u feel safe and secure

The law won't let me.

 

[hmbiohazard]

i carry 14+1 in my gun, 2 spare 14 round mags. i feel that hsould be enough for MOST situations should the arise.

gotta love my galco miami classic

 

[snubbyfan]

I carry my 442 with a couple of loaded quickstrips in my pocket. I figure the first reload's for after the problems been dispatched and I need to reload so I'm not left with an empty gun. The second reloads for "just in case."

 

[Rastoff]

The law won't let me.

Really? How so?