CCW: Keep one in the pipe?

[Protected One]

Yes, I understand. Do you understand my reasoning?

I don't.

 

[RalphMP9FS]

I don't.

That's a shame.

 

[fullmetal1911]

Yes, I understand. Do you understand my reasoning?

Oh, oh! I DO!

You are admitting that you are too incompetent to safely handle a firearm with a live round in the chamber!

Did I get it right?

Can't see any other reason why one would so adamantly advocate carrying in C3 and go as far as to declare carrying a pistol in C1 an "accident waiting to happen".

 

[Mtwoodson]

Someone said..."An unloaded handgun might as well be a hammer." I agree.

 

[RalphMP9FS]

Oh, oh! I DO!

You are admitting that you are too incompetent to safely handle a firearm with a live round in the chamber!

Did I get it right?

Can't see any other reason why one would so adamantly advocate carrying in C3 and go as far as to declare carrying a pistol in C1 an "accident waiting to happen".

I guess your reading comprehension is on the low side.

 

[fullmetal1911]

I guess your reading comprehension is on the low side.

I'm sure it's better than your ability to handle a condition one striker fired pistol.

 

[Kilibreaux]

One of my CCW shooting buddies (mag-fed-semi-auto) tells me he doesn't carry a round in the chamber. He uses a crotch holster, guess he's nervous he might have a negligent discharge. Ouch!

He says stuff like: "I've been carrying for years, I will always have time to get one in the pipe."

I say: what if you are wounded and can't use two hands? He starts showing me how he can chamber by holding the semi-auto up against his levi's and pushing on the slide.

Anyone else feel like this guy?

When you "carry serious" you carry with ONE IN THE CHAMBER!
Anything else is a punk move!

Would you carry a revolver with the "next up" chamber empty? Just in case you twitched the trigger while drunk and caused the weapon to index? NO YOU WOULD NOT!

CHAMBER your weapon like a MAN, and CARRY it like a MAN!
Anything else is some kind of punk-girly move that is fully OUTSIDE the realm of serious consideration!

 

[macski222]

When you "carry serious" you carry with ONE IN THE CHAMBER!
Anything else is a punk move!

CHAMBER your weapon like a MAN, and CARRY it like a MAN!
Anything else is some kind of punk-girly move that is fully OUTSIDE the realm of serious consideration!

Like I've said previously, what people do is up to them.. if everyone wants to argue and debate about it, good for them, have at it... but comments like that are what drag the lot of us down. You just sound like a mall ninja at this point. There's no need to put people down because you can't get them to see eye to eye with you on the issue.

Your above comments were just not well thought out, and not all that intelligent whatsoever. Why not leave this thread if you can't post without being so offensive?

Your comments don't necessarily offend me, they're just abrasive and not really needed. If you're trying to get a point across to someone, I'd recommend finding some new terminology, or at the least selecting your words a little better.

But hey, if you're just in it to ruffle feathers and sound like a macho man, carry on.

 

[Protected One]

When you "carry serious" you carry with ONE IN THE CHAMBER!
Anything else is a punk move!

Would you carry a revolver with the "next up" chamber empty? Just in case you twitched the trigger while drunk and caused the weapon to index? NO YOU WOULD NOT!

CHAMBER your weapon like a MAN, and CARRY it like a MAN!
Anything else is some kind of punk-girly move that is fully OUTSIDE the realm of serious consideration!

Hold up fellas...no need to turn the conversation in that direction. A civil discourse will do fine.

Now, I am a firm believer of "one in the chamber" because I want ZERO potential handicaps, in the event I need to use my gun.

 

[shouldazagged]

Hold up fellas...no need to turn the conversation in that direction. A civil discourse will do fine.

Let's hear it for civility. We don't need a urine fest here.

 

[Smoke]

I'm sure it's better than your ability to handle a condition one striker fired pistol.

Wouldn't a striker fired pistol (assuming no manual safety) by definition be condition zero ?

 

[Rastoff]

Wouldn't a striker fired pistol (assuming no manual safety) by definition be condition zero ?

Technically no. By definition, condition 0 is the gun cocked, chamber loaded and no safety on. Since all striker fired guns have a firing pin block, it's impossible for them to be in condition 0 (no safety in place) until the gun is actually being fired.

The real difference is in what happens if the sear fails. In a gun with no firing pin block, it will fire if the sear fails. In a striker fired gun, or any gun with a firing pin block, it will not fire.

 

[ladder13]

Great thread, love it much better than wasting my time reading that dumbass thread drift thread.

 

[drolen]

Wow, Here we go again.

Thanks to all the civil discourse posters who put up rationale and logical positions, regardless of which side they are on.

To the others, well, post whatever you like and we'll judge you not on who you are but only on the words, logic, and images that you use here in your posts.

C1 for me, but totally understand that anyone else may have any reason they choose to do whatever they want to do and not have to explain their rationale to me or anyone else. I'm not calling them anything for their choice nor am I deciding why they make their choice. I'm just happy they are using logic to make that choice.

Your gun, your decision.

 

[drolen]

Actually, if you must know, I was deliberately trying to get this thread locked.

I've given up on any semblance of intelligent life in the C3 community. There is nothing I could say here that would change the minds of the blowhard condition click fanatics. Saying, "Carrying an empty chamber puts you at greater risk for disarm and execution with your own weapon," is tantamount to telling a Muslim that Muhammad is a false prophet.

I think we should come up with subtle signal that you're carrying in condition click so that I can stay away from you fearful gun handling and not count on you to ever save the day. How about dunce caps with "Free Gun" embroidered vertically? Thugs couldn't read it and the intelligencia could be fairly warned about your presence. We could safely avoid you in case something bad happened and you were forced to bobble your terrifying gun out of hiding and into action.

It's great that you're championing your opinion so well. It really is difficult to make ignorance appear to be enlightment. No amount of prestadigitation or alchemy is going to turn this türd of an idea into a good one.

I am tired of this ignorant thread being at the top of the list. So let's have it locked by the mods and then it can settle at the bottom...with the rest of the trash.

Added some time later:
OK I find it hilarious to stir this particular pot. Am I being repugnant? Yes. Does how someone else carries their weapon directly affect me? No. How can you resist this debate? It's two groups firmly entrenched on either side of an issue pommeling away at each other. I do enjoy how the 1's are trying to emmasculate the 3's. The 3's plead for tolerance. It's a whizzing contest at best, but comical nonetheless. Sumner v. Brooks.

If you could logically defend your position and claims you'd have much more credibility. I apologize if I've somehow failed to use logic but I think I have. For all readers please just review my posts and the posts of this poster and compare positions and logic. and then make your own decisions.

ForestinMathews, I don't have the strong feelings that you do on this subject but I'd welcome the chance to debate you on this topic and let the audience decide who'd put forth the best argument for their position.

In closing, Posting that you're trying to get a thread locked is pretty insulting to the site staff that spend their volunteer time trying to keep this house in order. Please don't pile any more work on the volunteers than is needed.

 

[ChattanoogaPhil]

I'll now go pray for relief from the morbid curiosity that made me check it one more time.

Funny... and so true.

Time to put this thread out of it's misery.

 

[handejector]

Worlds most pointless debate. No ones swaying anyone here. Carry how you feel comfortable doing so. Who cares what the next guy thinks.

True wisdom.
Unfortunately, like most wisdom, it will go right by those who already know what is best for others, and constantly try to force others to believe they must adopt their opinion.....

 

[handejector]

Yeah, but what about in bear country?

A round in the chamber or do you rack the slide?

Or would the sound of it racking make the bear poop in the woods?

An excellent question.
I shall ponder it at length since I settled what a chamber is for many decades ago.