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johncal said:
Thats like buying a new car because you need tires
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Except you can buy tires from many different manufacturers. The bolt only comes from one source.

And tires are only 2-3% of the price of a car. If you were able to buy the bolt separately it would probably be 30-50% of the cost of the rifle from Palmetto.

But I hear you.
 
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Damn, why does this kind of stuff always pop up right after I use my expendable cash on a different gun? It's even $100 less than I spent on the gun I just bought!
 
johncal said:
Thats like buying a new car because you need tires
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Not really. It's like owning a second car. Makes perfect sense for the those not wanting to suffer any downtime with S&W repairing the rifle. It's not for me, but I can understand. If I participated in matches or other organized shooting events I would consider a second rifle.

At $299.... what the heck, I put more gas in my truck this month. And for that price you can always sell the rifle and not lose much money. Where's the downside?
 
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One problem with buying it for parts ( the bolt ) is I think this could be the # 811033 that had all the problems with the bolt.
 
micocyco said:
One problem with buying it for parts ( the bolt ) is I think this could be the # 811033 that had all the problems with the bolt.
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What is your basis for that comment?

Isn't "811033" simply the sub-model-number for that configuration?
 
micocyco said:
One problem with buying it for parts ( the bolt ) is I think this could be the # 811033 that had all the problems with the bolt.
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811033 is the sku for the M&P 15-22 with threaded barrel. All of the 15-22 variables have the same bolt... What problems are there with the bolts?
 
cyphertext said:
811033 is the sku for the M&P 15-22 with threaded barrel. All of the 15-22 variables have the same bolt... What problems are there with the bolts?
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From what I have read - the only "problem" with the bolt is that no one - not S&W nor ANY third party currently offers the bolt for sale as a separate part by itself. Meaning that if you ever had any reason to replace your bolt the only way to do so would be to ship it off to S&W for warranty repair.

While I can certainly appreciate the desire to have spare parts or at least access to spare parts - perhaps the real question is what if any sort of failures can be expected from a bolt - or how many rounds would need to be fired for any normal wear to occur such that replacing the bolt would be suggested.
 
One of my 15-22's (an 810033) has in excess of 20,000 rounds through it with the few FTF issues attributable to thirty year old ammo. No bolt or other breakage with my rifles, maybe I have not experienced problems as I did not read that I should. :-)
 
Well dang, dang, dang!!!! Why the heck did I read this thread? I just placed an order this morning for a 300 Blackout upper and yesterday ordered the Saker 7.62 suppressor.

Oh well, there goes another $300. Just bought another 15-22. I have no intent of decking it out but will hold on to it for spares but more importantly, the barrel. I am waiting on my stamp for converting my 15-22 to a SBR and I really want the ability to bring that gun back to regular length... when appropriate. I was looking for a used gun but at this price, the decision was easy. Well as easy as it can be after those other purchases.
 
Well folks y'all the experts ,
I just remember when I was having the problem with my first new 15-22 where the extractor , spring & pin came out with the firing of the first few rounds , people where putting #s like that up saying the older ones did not have the new spring , now maybe that is not the same # but if it is & it has the old spring then that would blow away keeping it for a replacement bolt.
Thats all , y'all carry on.
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Sure are a lot of testy posters here of late.
 
After thinking about this for a day I decided to order one. Too good a price not to really. I can let someone use my other one, sell it to reduce the cost of this one, or do the rattle can job I've been thinking of and let the new one stay black.
It's not hard to justify buying a new one at this price.
 
micocyco said:
Well folks y'all the experts ,
I just remember when I was having the problem with my first new 15-22 where the extractor , spring & pin came out with the firing of the first few rounds , people where putting #s like that up saying the older ones did not have the new spring , now maybe that is not the same # but if it is & it has the old spring then that would blow away keeping it for a replacement bolt.
Thats all , y'all carry on.
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Sure are a lot of testy posters here of late.
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When the rifle came out several years ago, there was not 18 variations of it as there are today. There was the 811030 as you referred to, and there was one that didn't have the threaded barrel with flash hider. There was also one for with a pinned stock for the "compliant states".

They did make a change to the springs early on in production, but that occurred 4 or 5 years ago. I doubt anyone has 4 year old new stock. That change did not affect the model number, and S&W uses the same bolt for all of the variations today. If you look at all the different models, most are the exact same configuration with different color plastic. The internals are all the same.
 
MP 15-22

Even though I just recently bought a used MP 15-22 I had to buy this as it is a great deal. This will be either a spare or I may sell it in the future. At this price I could not resist.
 
micocyco said:
Well folks y'all the experts ,
I just remember when I was having the problem with my first new 15-22 where the extractor , spring & pin came out with the firing of the first few rounds , people where putting #s like that up saying the older ones did not have the new spring , now maybe that is not the same # but if it is & it has the old spring then that would blow away keeping it for a replacement bolt.
Thats all , y'all carry on.
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Sure are a lot of testy posters here of late.
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A little knowledge is often a dangerous thing. The original problem was an incomplete return to battery position of the bolt when the trigger was pulled. This was cured in the second ( I believe) year of production by the installation of a stronger recoil spring, which was painted blue to differentiate it from the original. Smith supplied replacement springs to owners of existing rifles.

More recent extractor problems have nothing to do with this.

No, not testy posters; just folks who know what they are doing ... :)
 
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