cmort666
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His argument is like telling somebody they shouldn't fly Continental to Miami to see grandma because Manfred Freiherr von Richthofen was shot and killed while flying in an airplane.
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Good question.
The answer I hear quite often is that schemes surrendering 2A rights is to preserve the 2A. "Common Sense" gun control.
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cmort666
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I recall when NPR back in the '90s ran a week long series on the 2nd Amendment and gun ownership.
The first evening, their "pro-gun" spokesman was a guy who only owned shotguns, only shot trap and skeet, said he'd NEVER own a handgun, and said he was willing to give up his shotguns if the anti-gun types REALLY wanted him to.
Those kinds of "2nd Amendment supporters" are still out there... and in some cases, in HERE.
Sometimes they guess model 10 but not many 3 inch round butt blues k frames to choose from so high odds of guessing correctly
4506517
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Hmmmmmmm.......NYPD? One of the most notorious agencies as far as disregarding folks rights (stop and frisk).
I guess that explains more about your position on the matter than anything you could say. I guess after living so long as the only folks who could "easily and legally" possess a firearm does a lot to color your perception. Old habits and beliefs are hard to break.
Makes me wonder why you moved to PA? More friendly gun laws?
Elitism and Hoplophobia run hand in hand in NYC
kbm6893
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No. My argument is that the open carrying of a weapon does not prevent people from assaulting a cop. Back in the 70's, cops were getting jacked for their leather jackets. It was considered a badge of honor for the scumbags. When we went to the 9MM, aspiring Bloods gang members were told to club a cop and get his 9 to gain entry. The gun didn't scare them, and it doesn't scare them when GI Joe is pumping gas. Because if I wanted that guy's car, I could have taken it. And taken his gun too.
3600 women a day aren't raped because they have a gun! Totally unprovable. Your only evidence is some scumbag sitting in prison giving an interview so he can get out of his cell block for an hour and maybe win some brownie points with the parole board. What a joke.
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kbm6893
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Yeah. NYPD. Handled 20 radio runs a tour in a city with 2500 homicides my first year there. Third highest homicide rate in the city for several years. Always in the top 10. There are 75 precincts, by the way. Come in after two days off and the tally written on the chalk board in the muster room was always higher than when you left. You really don't wanna start comparing war stories, do you? Saw more in my first year than most cops do in there while careers. Where exactly are you a cop? How many violent felony collars you have? Don't really care about some grand larceny charge. Guns, robberies, rapes?
As for stop and frisk, lots of people get stopped when you have high crime rates like that, meaning lots of robbery and call guns, with "black man in dark clothing". It's hard to get a good description when you're staring down a gun barrel. And now that stop and frisk is gone, homicides had a big spike. But that's what they want so who am I to argue? Nobody's getting shot in my neighborhood.
Moved to PA for lower taxes, my pension not being taxed on the state level, and extremely close proximity to my new job. Better gun laws are a bonus, but I'm not some gun freak that picks my zip code based on the amount of rounds I can put in a magazine. Other things are more important, you know.
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cmort666
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Would carrying it concealed?
I know that NONE of them avoid rape by NOT having a gun.
cmort666
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You have said more about yourself in those few words than anyone else could in ten thousand.
Why do you always bring 'assaulting a cop' into armed CITIZEN Open Carry threads???
That's an entirely different topic.
Can we close this one yet?
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Also not provable. Screaming their heads off has stopped them too. Not saying women should not carry. I think they should. Just saying a Glock on their hip isn't gonna stop it if the guy is intent. A solid punch to the face and she's out. As a matter of fact, the displaying of her weapon might make the rapist knock her out cold rather than drag her into a car, giving her time to pull her gun and waste the scum.
Totally unprovable scenario, as is yours.
kbm6893
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Why do you always bring 'assaulting a cop' into armed CITIZEN Open Carry threads???
That's an entirely different topic.
Can we close this one yet?
Because the argument is a displayed gun will cause the perps to find another target. If they're willing to attack a cop, you think the guy getting coffee at 7-11 has a chance?
And cops are citizens, you know.
Yeah. Close this. Same record being played over and over.
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kbm6893
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If the gun laws in your area are the PRIMARY reason you live there, you need to consider your priorities in life. Would you turn down a fabulous promotion and a rocket ride to the top of your company because you can't have more than 10 rounds in a magazine? Sad if you would.
Wait a Minute... Isn't that Profiling????
kbm6893
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Wait a Minute... Isn't that Profiling????
Ladder is a NYC Firefighter. Despite all his bravado regarding gun freedoms, he chose to pursue a career in NY and continue to stay there. I'm sure it's the best move for his family, which is the right move. Just curious why such an anti-New Yorker would pursue a career in a state that only lets him load 7 rounds in his already 10'round magazines.
Incidentally, I was never affected by the mag limit. My duty weapons were exempt. Any model gun I owned was available before the ban, so I had pre-ban ones. And I was out long before the Safe Act, that makes even pre-ban mags illegal, and forces people to load 7 rounds into their 10 round mags.
When I got my first Garand a few years ago, my friend was so enamored of it and that I had it delivered right to my door from the CMP that he immediately jumped through the hoops the CMP requires to get one. Imagine his disappointment when he found it it has to go to an FFL.
F75gunslinger
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Not true. The 7 round limit has been denied by the courts because it was an arbritary number...it's back to 10 rounds. And the limit at 10 for ordinary citizens, but a standard capacity mag for police officers ( especially retired ones ) is total ****.
Some ill informed citizen posting about NY law? I guess they ran out of the old OC arguments and want to change the subject.
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I'm well informed..and live in NY.
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