S&W Victory takedown screw problem

#1 12/01/16
#2 Yes (Initially could not loosen screw. Had to take a heat gun and a super long allen wrench to pop it free. I thought I broke the allen wrench! No thread lock on the threads...just a coating of oil.)
#3 No. Even after breaking the screw loose and snugging it down, it hasn't come loose in 200 rounds.
#4 No problems once I got the screw loosened the first time.

I'll start keeping records of build dates in a spreadsheet. Don't post serial #s. Most important is how hard to break loose vs. loosening vs. build date vs. no issues. So, here's the format:

#1 Build date: ####
#2 Can't loosen breakdown screw: y/n
#3 Loosens after fire (but never #1): y/n
#4 No issues with #2 or #3: y/n

what else?
 
Mfg date 11/22/16. Apparently they are still over tightening these things

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Use a heat gun

I had just the opposite problem when I got mine right after they became available. With reasonable torqueing I had the screw come loose twice. Also the barrel screw once. I used blue thread locker on them both and have had no further problems.

This is a fine gun and shoots almost as well as my 41 at a much lower price. I currently have a second one on order with a threaded barrel so silence will be golden.

A heat gun from Harbor Freight is a better option for removing thread locker from places where it shouldn't be. Don't ask me how I know this.

Also factory service from S&W has been to my satisfaction both for warranty work and repair on older guns. Good luck.
 
I have read to put it in the freezer and to heat it up. Which has worked? I'm not sending my brand new gun back to s&w yet. Because they are also closed until January 2nd. I'm going to go out and shoot tomorrow anyway. And have the Smith look at it while the so he can break all his Allen wrenches. Lol

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Went and shot it. Shot my Winchester x and Winchester western great. Whatever CCI I had in my container. Wouldn't cycle a single one. Must have been low velocity. The Smith there broke off two of his Allen wrenches trying to break it down.... Then my wife got me the tandemkross comp and trigger. But will have to send it back after the holidays.

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Best shooting out of the box "new" gun I have ever purchased. No problem with screw too tight or coming loose and the trigger is much better than stock Ruger or Beretta. As accurate as any pistol I own, most of my others are modified for improved accuracy. Victory was accurate out of the box.
 
I have read to put it in the freezer and to heat it up. Which has worked? I'm not sending my brand new gun back to s&w yet. Because they are also closed until January 2nd. I'm going to go out and shoot tomorrow anyway. And have the Smith look at it while the so he can break all his Allen wrenches. Lol

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The bond between two pieces of metal, in this case the metal of the screw and the metal of the frame it is screwed into, can be broken by changing the temperature of one of the metals. Heat causes metal to expand, cold causes it to contract. Different metals react at different time rates, especially if they are of different sizes. The difference in the expansion or contraction can/will cause the bond between the two metals to loosen. Because the frame is larger than the screw, temperature changes will effect the frame slower than the screw, thus causing the mating surfaces of the screw and frame to separate or loosen. Instead of putting the pistol in a freezer, I would try canned air propellant, which can freeze the smaller screw quite quickly (and your fingers if you aren't careful!). After spraying, by tilting the can so the liquid propellant comes out instead of the air, let the gun sit for a few minutes to give the cold a chance to spread to the threads and cause them to contract.

In the case of a screw in a larger frame, heat generally is not the answer. As stated above, heat makes the metal expand, which will tighten the bond, not loosen it. The exception to this is when a thread locker is used. Thread locker, such as Loctite work by filling the microscopic voids between two threads and hardening to prevent the thread from loosening during use. This bond can be broken/softened by use of heat, hence the recommendation of using heat when a thread locking agent is used.

As a note of interest, heat can also be used to tighten threads. Large threaded rods were used to hold presses together at a plant I worked at. I'm speaking a rods that were a foot in diameter. They were threaded into the bottom of the press, the top of the press put into place, then heat applied to the rod until it was glowing red. The top nut was then torqued into place and the heat removed from the rod. As the rod cooled to ambient temps, it shrunk, increasing the torque on the rod considerably. Needless to say, when taking the press apart, the reverse had to be done. Just another example of the pieces of useless information my brain retains. :D
 
We have 2 of them 081116 & 110116 The screws were tight on both but came out with a hex tip and 1/4" ratchet. The new one hasn't been shot yet but the older one has several hundred rounds through it with not a single hiccup or loose screw.
 
I strongely recommend you place a no.61 O-ring on the screw after you strip it down next time. It will make a world of difference in the future on your guns as far as that screw goes. .
 
I bought mine 12-15-2016, the box is dated 8-3-16. The screw popped with medium pressure using the provided allen wrench. Cleaned and reassembled, went shooting, at 30 rounds, the screw was loose. Based on Barrie's recommendation and my own experience with aluminum grips on Sigs, I put an o ring on the screw and went shooting. After 110 rounds, no movement. I marked the screw and frame with a dot of paint. The screw is tight, but not leaned on with an extension. Seems to be a simple and quick fix to me. It is a nice shooter, the trigger is way better than a .22/45 I have.
 
Too little - too late (reading this column)

Samo - samo. Tight screw. Tried supplied Allen wrench. No luck. Applied PB Blaster penetrant. ½ hour later tried again. No luck. Used pliers as cheater. No luck. Applied Kroil penetrant. ½ hour later tried again. It actually seemed to be working, but in reality the supplied Allen wrench was twisting slightly until it snapped off, flush with the top of the screw.
I quit. Email sent to C.S. at S&W.
I wish I had read up on this first. After 40+ years of working on my own guns, this is the first Allen wrench I have snapped on a firearm.
Yep. They unfortunately have a Q.C. problem.
(I have never had assembly/disassembly problems using blue LocTite, but maybe that would not be a good idea. I don't know.)
 
I bought mine 12-15-2016, the box is dated 8-3-16. The screw popped with medium pressure using the provided allen wrench. Cleaned and reassembled, went shooting, at 30 rounds, the screw was loose. Based on Barrie's recommendation and my own experience with aluminum grips on Sigs, I put an o ring on the screw and went shooting. After 110 rounds, no movement. I marked the screw and frame with a dot of paint. The screw is tight, but not leaned on with an extension. Seems to be a simple and quick fix to me. It is a nice shooter, the trigger is way better than a .22/45 I have.
I purchased mine on 11/20/16. The date on the box was 10/14/16. I tried the supplied hex wrench multiple times with zero luck. I soaked the take down screw repeatedly with PBS Blaster for over 48 hours. Finally I purchased a hex socket for my 3/8 inch socket wrench and that finally did the trick. Since then I have only put about 140 rounds through it, but have had no issues with the screw lossening.

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I got mine at Christmas. The takedown screw was very tight, but it did break loose. After reading all the issues with the screw, I asked S&W for another screw which they sent out immediately. The new screw appears to have a dot of red loctite on it?? I'm not sure if I want to put this new screw in or not. I like the idea of the o ring and will get them for mine. The gun shoots great!
 
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Picked up a Victory last week. Stopped at Ace on the way home for a pair of no.61 o-rings. Medium pressure with the supplied hex wrench and no problem easily came loose.
Cleaned and installed the 0-ring and got to the range today. 270 rounds total, 100 CCI mini's with 100 Browning BPR Hollow Point, 50 Federal Auto Match. 20 Winchester Super X. Only Problem was a FTF with the Super X.
Sweet shooter, very happy with this pistol. Born on date 07/29/16.
 
I fell prey to the temptation and picked up a threaded barrel Victory yesterday. Haven't taken it out of the box yet but when I do I will be ready for what ever comes my way.
 
I just received a new takedown screw from SW. It has a dot of red on the screw threads.....I figured locktite would be put on just before putting the screw back in....any ideas what it might be?
 
I just received a new takedown screw from SW. It has a dot of red on the screw threads.....I figured locktite would be put on just before putting the screw back in....any ideas what it might be?

Without a picture it's hard to say for sure but I have used bolts in the past that had a nylon type insert that when the bolt was screwed down it locked into the threads to stop any loosening.
I have seen them many colors but red was the most common.
 
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