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S&W Victory takedown screw problem
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CoachRick
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Wow, that IS a new one on me! I wouldn't be happy with that!
For all the folks cranking down on a "stuck" take down screw(or seriously overtightening), this may be a concern I hadn't even considered
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that needs to go back to S&W
A new issue!
As I posted above the bushing that the takedown screw screws into came out. It will unscrew out of the barrel, and I suspect we will see more and more of this over time because it appears that all that prevents this is what appears to be red locktite! Eventually it will give way. I have only hand tightened mine, and less than a month mine gave! Here are some pictures of mine.
As I posted above the bushing that the takedown screw screws into came out. It will unscrew out of the barrel, and I suspect we will see more and more of this over time because it appears that all that prevents this is what appears to be red locktite! Eventually it will give way. I have only hand tightened mine, and less than a month mine gave! Here are some pictures of mine.
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BigDog48
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Would you be so kind as to post a picture of your barrel?
A new issue!
You see my explanation of why initially the takedown screw is so tight. They put red locktite on the bushing threads start the bushing the start the takedown screw and put an extreme amount of torque to seat the bushing, sometimes the red locktite may even get on the inside threads of the bushing causing the takedown screw to become even more welded in place. You see I could probably take the barrel off and do the same and possibly get the takedown screw out. But as they say this would only fix the symptom and the problem would remain. I want S&W to really fix the problem before someone gets injured, this is a safety issue!
You see my explanation of why initially the takedown screw is so tight. They put red locktite on the bushing threads start the bushing the start the takedown screw and put an extreme amount of torque to seat the bushing, sometimes the red locktite may even get on the inside threads of the bushing causing the takedown screw to become even more welded in place. You see I could probably take the barrel off and do the same and possibly get the takedown screw out. But as they say this would only fix the symptom and the problem would remain. I want S&W to really fix the problem before someone gets injured, this is a safety issue!
Danfo out of the hundred's of folks who have bought this model and reported on here you are the only person to have this bushing loosen up on them. I would use the red locktite on its threads and put it back to-gether and then place a No.61 o-ring over the screw when putting it back in. Try to torque to around 40" lbs if you can and you should be good to go.
A new issue!
Yes, I could do this, as I said in my previous post, but as I said it would not fix the Big problem. I maybe the only one so far that you know of but I can guarantee there will be more the red locktite will not stay put forever. Like I said mine went a month and maybe 700 rounds, the screw would come lose on the average every 50 rounds. I never used anything to torque it but a allen wrench with normal finger pressure. This is a safety issue!
And I paid good money for a defective design. If I sold you something new and it had this issue would you just shrug it off and say, well I'll just rig it and hope it doesn't hurt anyone. I don't think so and I will not either S&W needs to fix this issue. I've had hundreds of guns but this tops the list for complete incompetent design.
Yes, I could do this, as I said in my previous post, but as I said it would not fix the Big problem. I maybe the only one so far that you know of but I can guarantee there will be more the red locktite will not stay put forever. Like I said mine went a month and maybe 700 rounds, the screw would come lose on the average every 50 rounds. I never used anything to torque it but a allen wrench with normal finger pressure. This is a safety issue!
And I paid good money for a defective design. If I sold you something new and it had this issue would you just shrug it off and say, well I'll just rig it and hope it doesn't hurt anyone. I don't think so and I will not either S&W needs to fix this issue. I've had hundreds of guns but this tops the list for complete incompetent design.
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Give you $100 for your incompetently designed firearm.
I would not sell you or anyone else a firearm that I wouldn't use and that I feel is unsafe. Besides this is not the classifieds. It is being sent back to S&W.
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Stat-o-seal for takedown screw problem
It might be worth trying an item called a stat-o-seal. It is basically a washer with an o-ring bonded in the ID of the washer, It was designed for fluid sealing around screws. Although I used them in hydraulic systems, I have also used them to perform as a lock washer. It might be worth a try.
Aluminum Stat-O-Seal Sealing Washers | Pegasus Auto Racing Supplies
for some reason the link seems to lead no where. Just search the generic name stat-o-seal
It might be worth trying an item called a stat-o-seal. It is basically a washer with an o-ring bonded in the ID of the washer, It was designed for fluid sealing around screws. Although I used them in hydraulic systems, I have also used them to perform as a lock washer. It might be worth a try.
Aluminum Stat-O-Seal Sealing Washers | Pegasus Auto Racing Supplies
for some reason the link seems to lead no where. Just search the generic name stat-o-seal
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The No.61 O-ring which is very cheap at most hardware stores works perfect especially if you torque it to around 40inch lbs. WE have had literally many doz's of members on here try this and it has proven 100% successful so far.
I realize this thread has been around awhile, but I wish I would have seen it before yesterday. I just traded a mint 1979 vintage 870 Wingmaster 20 gauge for a Victory w/a barrel screw that won`t budge. I would have checked the screw had I known....
Called S&W and they`re shipping me a return label-not messing around with this. Heck, I haven`t even fired the dang thing yet.
Wasted 2 allen wrenches. May get a socket allen wrench to try if I go into town later.
Have had bad luck with new stuff-bought a new Burris Fastfire 3 that didn`t work. Been waiting on a replacement for a month now. Whatever happened to quality control? Not real impressed with a couple of companies lately....
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Called S&W and they`re shipping me a return label-not messing around with this. Heck, I haven`t even fired the dang thing yet.
Wasted 2 allen wrenches. May get a socket allen wrench to try if I go into town later.
Have had bad luck with new stuff-bought a new Burris Fastfire 3 that didn`t work. Been waiting on a replacement for a month now. Whatever happened to quality control? Not real impressed with a couple of companies lately....
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Have you tried heating the screw with a soldering iron or something prior to attempting to remove it?
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or use an impact driver? easy/peasy......
Well, am having more fun with the "Victory screw" (or Victory screw-job. ha)
Went into town and purchased a Crescent brand 3/8 socket hex-head set (because they were out of the American made 1/8" individual hex head socket). Applied heat to the screw via soldering gun, barely started torquing on the screw, and promptly snapped the cheap Tawain-made hex head. Great.
Dug around and found a hex-head bit that fit my impact driver (Bosch 18 volt-don`t have a air or electric impact wrench). Reheated the screw, put the driver on, and of course the screw wouldn`t budge. Now my temporary Tourette`s Syndrome really kicked in.
The Victory is now in a box waiting for FedEx to pick up. Included in said box is a note explaining my severe displeasure of the whole situation (which will probably "slow-up" the repair process if I tick `em off). Maybe I`ll get to play with my new pistol before Labor Day.
beerbelly
Went into town and purchased a Crescent brand 3/8 socket hex-head set (because they were out of the American made 1/8" individual hex head socket). Applied heat to the screw via soldering gun, barely started torquing on the screw, and promptly snapped the cheap Tawain-made hex head. Great.
Dug around and found a hex-head bit that fit my impact driver (Bosch 18 volt-don`t have a air or electric impact wrench). Reheated the screw, put the driver on, and of course the screw wouldn`t budge. Now my temporary Tourette`s Syndrome really kicked in.
The Victory is now in a box waiting for FedEx to pick up. Included in said box is a note explaining my severe displeasure of the whole situation (which will probably "slow-up" the repair process if I tick `em off). Maybe I`ll get to play with my new pistol before Labor Day.
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beerbelly, when my lgs sent mine back it took about 3 weeks to get it back. But they didn't send an allen wrench to replace the one that got stripped out. One quick phone call took care of that. Customer service was great on this one.
I just experienced the same problem. Bushing has no evidence of red Loctite on it. Now I can't get the takedown screw out of the bushing. S&W sent me a nylock takedown screw to solve one problem and now it has created another.
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